A Vault (a kind of storage with password)
N1ghtstalker
hi,
i see people fearing for being hacked and lose all their precious items
so i thought about this: why not make a Xunlai Vault service for players for them to keep their high end items in
the vault would only be accessable with a password the person makes while purchasing his vault account
now i know this sounds like a cheap lie for extra storage but make this a small vault like one window of your xunlai storage
players wouldn't have to fear anymore of their precious weapons of ecto's if they put it in this vault
also money could be put in this vault
for an example: a large amount of money like 150k in the vault and a small fee of 5k in your xunlai for fast access for small purchases
for the extra safety measures purchasing a vault account wouldn't be just 100g but i thought maybe something of 5-10k for opening a vault account
idea's and oppinions pls
i see people fearing for being hacked and lose all their precious items
so i thought about this: why not make a Xunlai Vault service for players for them to keep their high end items in
the vault would only be accessable with a password the person makes while purchasing his vault account
now i know this sounds like a cheap lie for extra storage but make this a small vault like one window of your xunlai storage
players wouldn't have to fear anymore of their precious weapons of ecto's if they put it in this vault
also money could be put in this vault
for an example: a large amount of money like 150k in the vault and a small fee of 5k in your xunlai for fast access for small purchases
for the extra safety measures purchasing a vault account wouldn't be just 100g but i thought maybe something of 5-10k for opening a vault account
idea's and oppinions pls
jiggles
Simply add it to the current storage?
Anet isnt going to go through all the trouble of making a brand spanking new vault with a password when theres already a decent storage system
nice idea though, so ill /sign if we dont have to pay for it
Anet isnt going to go through all the trouble of making a brand spanking new vault with a password when theres already a decent storage system
nice idea though, so ill /sign if we dont have to pay for it
N1ghtstalker
the vault would be just like the storage, just a chest but can only be opened with the password you set on it
Felixious
Just wait for all the QQ threads with "OMG I LOST PASSW0RDZ AND MY R9 TORMENTED SCYTHE IS IN THERE OMG OMG PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!one!!eleven!!oneone!!!? "
Yeah. I guess it could be of use.
/Sign
Yeah. I guess it could be of use.
/Sign
Molock
/signed
There would need to be a decent password retrieval system though, not sure how that would work.
There would need to be a decent password retrieval system though, not sure how that would work.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Molock
/signed
There would need to be a decent password retrieval system though, not sure how that would work. |
Lykan
This doesnt have a chance of being implemented because then they would be admitting there is an account hacking problem, which they wont.
TheRaven
Possible idea for GW2 but too much coding for GW. However I really don't think this will help much against hackers. If you have a keylogger and got hacked that way then your vault isn't secure either.
If you lose your vault password then what? Send an e-mail to retrieve? Well the hacker already knows your e-mail address and probably has the password to that as well.
If you lose your vault password then what? Send an e-mail to retrieve? Well the hacker already knows your e-mail address and probably has the password to that as well.
NeonXero
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Originally Posted by TheRaven
Possible idea for GW2 but too much coding for GW. However I really don't think this will help much against hackers. If you have a keylogger and got hacked that way then your vault isn't secure either.
If you lose your vault password then what? Send an e-mail to retrieve? Well the hacker already knows your e-mail address and probably has the password to that as well. |
This system seems to have a little bit too much fail in it to be implemented.
inchoate
There's no such thing as a hacked account. Evil-doers get onto other people's accounts by tricking the password out of them.
To my mind, if you're stupid enough to give your password to anyone you deserve to have your 'precious items' stolen.
/Notsigned
To my mind, if you're stupid enough to give your password to anyone you deserve to have your 'precious items' stolen.
/Notsigned
Trader of Secrets
I think this would fail. I think if someone did hack into your account they would be smart enough to also get the pass into the storage also. The only real solution would be account protection.
not signed
not signed
Elder III
just give us another "section" to the current storage system; ie. 5 instead of 4 and call it good imo
HawkofStorms
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Originally Posted by Felixious
Just wait for all the QQ threads with "OMG I LOST PASSW0RDZ AND MY R9 TORMENTED SCYTHE IS IN THERE OMG OMG PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!one!!eleven!!oneone!!!? "
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/notsigned
People are idiots, especially people who get their accounts hacked because they often use the same e-mail/password for everything. Too many people would forget their vault password or just make it the same as thier account password (defeating the point).
Turbobusa
I'd use that.
NumberOfTheBeast
/signed
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El Presidente
Quote:
Originally Posted by inchoate
There's no such thing as a hacked account. Evil-doers get onto other people's accounts by tricking the password out of them.
To my mind, if you're stupid enough to give your password to anyone you deserve to have your 'precious items' stolen. |
/not signed
NYC Elite
/signed if it will just be a PIN code or something that you click on screen. If for some reason a person gets their account stolen, at least give them a second chance.
FlamingMetroid
/notsigned
people should learn to fail less
people should learn to fail less
pamelf
previously i wouldn't have signed this, but with the amount of people apparently being Brute Force hacked these days I definitely think it's a needed addition.
/signed
/signed
Maria The Princess
this is way overdue, i played another MMO and there the storage had a pasword. when one of my friends got hacked (they had a crappy security sytem) he lost everything he had on his character, armor weapons etc, but he kept his wealth to rebuild his character cuz hacker couldnt get in his storage.
and for forgotten password... how about "forgot password" button and you answer to a private question you make up yourself?
/signed
and for forgotten password... how about "forgot password" button and you answer to a private question you make up yourself?
/signed
MisterB
No.
If there is an exploit or security vulnerability, then ANet needs to address account security and fix the problem rather than diminish damage done as a result of a security breach. If people are failing to address security themselves, this won't be of use(they'll just use the same password as log in), and will generate more support tickets.
If there is an exploit or security vulnerability, then ANet needs to address account security and fix the problem rather than diminish damage done as a result of a security breach. If people are failing to address security themselves, this won't be of use(they'll just use the same password as log in), and will generate more support tickets.
Maria The Princess
^^ well storage passsword would be a quik fix, they oviously cant handle account security properly since we see more and more accounts being hacked, so how about we could just feel a tad safer? i mean, why do we have to be punished, while they could at least use this "quik fix" to hold us off untill we get a decent security system. the messege on login screen "account safety dont give your password" is not a real theft protection.....
jackers1234
/signed with the slight change to a PIN that is entered by clicking on the screen, that way keyloggers cant get your vault pass.
Ghostcell
it wouldn't hurt to see it added to the game, but it does look like it will be too much coding.
anyway /signed
anyway /signed
Mystica
Quote:
Originally Posted by inchoate
There's no such thing as a hacked account. Evil-doers get onto other people's accounts by tricking the password out of them.
To my mind, if you're stupid enough to give your password to anyone you deserve to have your 'precious items' stolen. |
What's next? Enter your social insurance info to access your vault or telefon validation to take items out?
"Dear XXX, we are calling you because you requested to take the following item out of your protected vault.
Fiery Dragon Sword of Tenguslaying
10-19 Fire dmg
12^50
+11% dmg vs Tengu
Please varify the transaction by saying "MKAY" after the beep.
BEEEEEEEP"
Felixious
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
how about "forgot password" button and you answer to a private question you make up yourself?
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No. As said before, the ones who actually need this would be those who'd probably forget their secret answer, or see another movie and call it their new favourite. Runescape has an owning bank-protection. Let's use that. Yeah.
Proff
How bout just more storage?
Maria The Princess
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felixious
What is your favourite movie?
No. As said before, the ones who actually need this would be those who'd probably forget their secret answer, or see another movie and call it their new favourite. Runescape has an owning bank-protection. Let's use that. Yeah. |
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Originally Posted by Mystica
What's next? Enter your social insurance info to access your vault or telefon validation to take items out?
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if a person is too stupid to remember whats the answer to their private question they made up on their own, or put the security PIN the same as their account password, or choose an answer that is something like "who is the american president at this moment" they should uninstall GW, put the computer in its original box and demand a refund.
this function is only to protect players storage, no exaggeration needed.
zamial
/NOT SIGNED
Your account which is worth far more than any 1 item you own, already has a password on it. If you get/got hacked that is a directly related to 1 of 2 things.
1. You gave someone your password. ( Even a vault will not keep items secured if owner is a moron.)
2. Your account password is not strong enough. This is easy to fix.
make your passwords meet the following requirements:
a) a minimum of 8 characters in length.(the longer the better)
b) use 1 lower case, 1 upper case, 1 number and 1 special character.
A helpful tool brought to you from our friends at M$.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/you...d/checker.mspx
Your account which is worth far more than any 1 item you own, already has a password on it. If you get/got hacked that is a directly related to 1 of 2 things.
1. You gave someone your password. ( Even a vault will not keep items secured if owner is a moron.)
2. Your account password is not strong enough. This is easy to fix.
make your passwords meet the following requirements:
a) a minimum of 8 characters in length.(the longer the better)
b) use 1 lower case, 1 upper case, 1 number and 1 special character.
A helpful tool brought to you from our friends at M$.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect/you...d/checker.mspx
Lady Lozza
The amount of account hacking going on, yes I'd sign this so:
/sign
A further suggestion/separate suggestion -
Instead of typing the character name in order to delete, or in addition to, have a pin that must be entered. Certainly this can be brute forced if the hacker is determine enough, but something tells me most hackers just want to get in and out. This would protect our character which, to be honest, are more important than the ectos and the gold.
/sign
A further suggestion/separate suggestion -
Instead of typing the character name in order to delete, or in addition to, have a pin that must be entered. Certainly this can be brute forced if the hacker is determine enough, but something tells me most hackers just want to get in and out. This would protect our character which, to be honest, are more important than the ectos and the gold.
Lady Lozza
Quote:
Originally Posted by zamial
/NOT SIGNED
Your account which is worth far more than any 1 item you own, already has a password on it. If you get/got hacked that is a directly related to 1 of 2 things. 1. You gave someone your password. ( Even a vault will not keep items secured if owner is a moron.) 2. Your account password is not strong enough. This is easy to fix. make your passwords meet the following requirements: a) a minimum of 8 characters in length.(the longer the better) b) use 1 lower case, 1 upper case, 1 number and 1 special character. A helpful tool brought to you from our friends at M$. http://www.microsoft.com/protect/you...d/checker.mspx |
Unfortunately a complex password will not protect you from brute force attacks, it will only slow the hacker down. While I doubt that most GW hackers would waste time on an account that takes a lot longer to hack than someone whose password is "guildwars", those who are serious about their business would have no issue. The best protection from brute force attacks is a non-web based email address you don't use for much else.
Even all of the above will not help if:
1) PlayNC servers have been breeched again, or
2) A hacker is intercepting packages during attempted reconnects (not sure how possibe this is but is has been discussed).
In the end Zamial, security is no simple thing. Everything is vulnerable and you should treat it as such. Added security measures will never be absolutely fool-proof, but it does slow hackers/thieves down, and will make some think twice about doing it.
Thizzle
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felixious
Just wait for all the QQ threads with "OMG I LOST PASSW0RDZ AND MY R9 TORMENTED SCYTHE IS IN THERE OMG OMG PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!one!!eleven!!oneone!!!? "
Yeah. I guess it could be of use. /Sign |
/signed.
The Meth
You have a password on your account. Don't download keyloggers and change your password to something other then 12345 and this idea is useless.
Yuhe Ji
I guess /signed
People have been getting hacked a lot recently, and it's not because they're doing dumb things (at least that's not what it looks like). Hackers are getting in by brute force, you guys should stop bashing on the people that have been getting hacked.
People have been getting hacked a lot recently, and it's not because they're doing dumb things (at least that's not what it looks like). Hackers are getting in by brute force, you guys should stop bashing on the people that have been getting hacked.