PvE skill reversion, what do you want to see?

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GloryFox
GloryFox
Desert Nomad
#1
With ANet separating the skills from PvP and PvE what skills would you like to see changed for the separation? I would like to eventually see the following skills undone from PvP nerfs.

Ritualist
Channeling
Blood Song moved back to communing.

Communing
Displacement reverted back to it’s original form.
Shelter reverted back to it’s original form.
Union reverted back to it’s original form.
Xinrea’s weapon reverted back to it’s original form.

Restoration
No changes needed

Spawning Power
Ritual Lord reverted back to it’s original form.
* Also drop the –50 hp penalty to all spirits for PvE leave it for PvP.


Paragon
Command
GFTE reverted back to it’s original form.

Leadership
Aggressive Refrain reverted back to it’s original form.

Motivation
Change all motivational skills back to their original pre-nerf forms.

Spear
no changes I can think of.


Ranger
Beast Mastery
Edge of Extinction reverted back to it’s original form.

Warrior
Tactics
Increase the duration of all Tactics Stances by at least 5 seconds.


I’m sure others can think of more skills for more classes to be moved back to their original forms however these have been particular to me in general.

NOTE: This is for discussion of skills you would like to see returned for good use in PvE, Not a place to flame PvE players about skill or lack of skill.
Vinraith
Vinraith
Desert Nomad
#2
I'd personally like to see no changes, or possibly a few more nerfs. The last thing Anet needs to be doing is making PvE power creep worse than it already is.
Axel Zinfandel
Axel Zinfandel
Desert Nomad
#3
Revert all the skills that were nerfed or buffed with JUST PvP in mind.

That's ALL they have to do, it's just a matter if they do it right. Any worse would be nerfing PvE, not the skills themselves.

Sometimes, I wish I was in charge of skill balancing :P
Stolen Souls
Stolen Souls
Desert Nomad
#4
Nerf Ursan before buffing/reverting anything else...IMO
Gift3d
Gift3d
Forge Runner
#5
For PvE-

Rodgorts + Mind Blast - reverted

Light of Deliverance - back to 5s recharge / more heal like it used to be

TACTICS -- Watch Yourself reverted so that it's useful, same with Fear Me. Good hero skills really.


For PvP - SHADOW FORM FOR CHRIST'S SAKE. something. anything.
MMSDome
MMSDome
Raged Out
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolen Souls
Nerf Ursan before buffing/reverting anything else...IMO
I agree with this 100% for the simple fact that this is the perfect opportunity to do so and have a good reason to do it.

If they do not nerf ursan now I don't know what the hell they are doing.

ADDED: And really tbh i do not think they need to separate the 2 as we have dealt with it in the past and even with this you will piss people off. Either way in the end people end up angry and separating the two is not a good thing imo.
Cathode_Reborn
Cathode_Reborn
Desert Nomad
#7
I'd like to a see good reason to play a Mes in PvE.
Lady Lozza
Lady Lozza
Forge Runner
#8
I have only just read the massive thread that detailed what Anet was doing. Not sure how I feel about it, but anyway.

I'd like my spirits back on my rit. They are useable in NM but not in HM. I've basically come to play 1 or 2 builds on my rit in HM simply because communing really isn't worth it - which is a pity.

I don't want to see a necro minion buff, and I've never had a problem with the timer for soul reaping in PvE.

There were a couple of changes made to mes skills at some stage I wouldn't mind back - some of the inspiration stuff. Mind you inspiration did get a nice buff at some stage with some changes I think were great.
Sleeper Service
Sleeper Service
Jungle Guide
#9
not so much as skill reverts but game mechanics reverted.

Spirits trigger SR.

Pets leave corpses.

none of thoses affect me personally but they sure as hell left me feeling very annoyed.


as a side note, SR timer is fine as its is now.
I
I Can Cure Cancer
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Imo incoming deserves a good buff after it got hit hard with the nerf bat. Also my ele would love MB + RI reverted. Btw MMSDome I love your avatar he's my fav president.
Carboplatin
Carboplatin
Jungle Guide
#11
bring back paragons so they don't have to rely on pve skills
M
Musei Karasu
Lion's Arch Merchant
#12
Assassins in general.
madriel222
madriel222
Krytan Explorer
#13
Bring back "Watch Yourselves," please.
BlueNovember
BlueNovember
Wilds Pathfinder
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
Ranger
Beast Mastery
Edge of Extinction reverted back to it’s original form.
That was changed for pve reasons; mostly Grawl bombing outside Droks.

Many paragon skills have been destroyed for PVE useage. It's still kind of a moot point though as any pve para is going to be running a bar built around TNTF and SY!.

I see most suggestions are pertaining to buffing skills; anyone keen on reducing a skill's effectiveness in pve?
J
JeniM
Desert Nomad
#15
Wait Pvp and PvE will get have different skill effects?

WOW I really hope I can stand more than 1hour a week of grind just to see what change it makes. (I know LB will still be as dull but at lest the 'same' run maybe slightly different)
GloryFox
GloryFox
Desert Nomad
#16
Quote:
Posted by Stolen Souls
Nerf Ursan before buffing/reverting anything else...IMO
This is about skills that are currently both PvE and PvP. Please keep your comments about Ursan and any other PvE only skill to posts about PvE only skills.

Thank you.
Mr. G
Mr. G
Desert Nomad
#17
I say change nothing, let this only effect future updates

people have adapted to changes made in the past, changing things back will be like nerfing the new bars that were made due to the old nerfs
fenix
fenix
Major-General Awesome
#18
Hurrrr revert Prot Bond imo hurrrrr

Dumb suggestions. Leave the game as it is, and nerf/buff things WHEN THEY ARE NEEDED.
FengShuiDove
FengShuiDove
Forge Runner
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeniM
(I know LB will still be as dull but at lest the 'same' run maybe slightly different)
They ain't gonna change Wurm skills man =P.

Paragon Motivation chants, Splinter Weapon, MB + Rodgort's, Shadow Form PvP nerf (just so that people stop whining more than anything), Light of Deliverance (PLEASE replace Healer's Boon build!).

I dunno, I'm pretty excited about this format of skill updates and I'm just curious to see what round one changes are.
GloryFox
GloryFox
Desert Nomad
#20
Quote:
posted by BlueNovember
That was changed for pve reasons; mostly Grawl bombing outside Droks.
Actually it came about from people doing EoE Suicide bombs in Alliance Battles.