Ele Hero Builds (Feedback)

So, being an epic n00b I started a thread in the ele forum without checking that there is a hero forum for asking this question. I did get some great feedback from the posters, but it really needed to be here, and I apologize for the double post. Hopefully the original one in the ele forum will go away.

ANYWAY!

After talking with them about it I am trying to settle on an Ele spec. My group that I play with really lacks any form of hard hitting DPS, so we are looking to this Ele for that. I also gave him some interrupts since heroes have better reflexes for that then us humans most of the time. Where I am stuck is Fire vs. Air. Fire is the obvious choice for damage, but it's energy management leaves something to be desired. Air does respectable damage much faster but is all single target. Here they are:

[fire [email protected]][searing [email protected]][rodgort's [email protected]][glowing [email protected]][liquid [email protected]][meteor [email protected]][leech signet][web of disruption]

-or-

[Elemental [email protected]][Air [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Chain [email protected]][Leech Signet][Web of Disruption]

As you can see, they are fairly straight forward builds, but I am really stuck on how best to proceed and am looking for some feedback.

Thanks in advance
-DR

P.S. - My group is currently a N/R MM and a Dubious Sin.

P.P.S. - I had also considered a build that does both in some fashion. Fast Air single target attacks and boomier AoE fire attacks:

[Elemental Attunement][fire attunement][Lightning Strike][Lightning Orb][rodgort's invocation][meteor shower][liquid flame][Leech Signet]

take out leech signet for power drain, which guarantees energy, and take out rodgorts on the first bar.

Don't even consider the second bar, it's waaayyy too unfocused, and focus makes a good build. (a.k.a. Do ONE thing, not 3)

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needs more [splinter weapon]/[ancestors rage]?

So, one of these two then:

[fire [email protected]][searing [email protected]][glowing [email protected]][liquid [email protected]][meteor [email protected]][[email protected]][power drain][web of disruption]

-or-

[Elemental [email protected]][Air [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Lightning [email protected]][Chain [email protected]][power drain][Web of Disruption]

I hadn't really given earth a whole lot of look mainly because I was looking for some high dps. That said, it is not that I don't think that Earth can dish it out it just really relies on mobs staying in one spot (even if they aren't generally smart enough to move) and that can be hard to work with an NPC at the helm, I'd imagine. Also, without using the Dual Attunement I am worried about energy management. Someone with Earth/Water or such would probably REALLY annoy the hell out of somebody, but I don't trust NPCs to be that smart.

This is also why I was leaning towards Air because I don't have to worry about mobs on the go and they'll get womped on. Fire still has enough of a mix of single target and AoE to be tempting with the high damage output.

My concern was two fold in that I had never played a Ele before so I needed to understand it from that angle as well as what skills work best with NPC AI.

Thanks
-DR

it;s good to have some self heal as well.... i always make my ele heros E/D with mystic regen and conviction. try focusing on one build like fire or air. if doing air... put in a blind. oh... and some form of energy management. heros love to spam without concern to energy.

ie. if burning... use glowing gaze. if water hex, use glowing ice or whatever that one is for water e-management

[cry of frustration] > [web of disruption]
even at 0 dom

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My two cents:

forget air skills on heros. The BEST thing IMHO is a bunch of AoE attacks, in NM they will pwn, and in HM the scatter will give your guys some relief.

The earth build posted by Improvavel is good for an earth build, and really delivers the melee hate. Your basic SH/Splinter is also great for doing AoE plus buffing the melee characters.

IMHO precision elemental spikers are good only when used by players, who understand how to use them and casting orders and such, Hero AI tends to spread the love around, which works fine on AoE nukers, but not so much single target nukers. I could be wrong of course, but that's just my experience.

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* As said, CoF usually beats Web of Disruption in PvE
* Air is only good if you use its most important feature (Blinding ...)
* Earth Rocks (pun intended). i suggest Improvavels build minus Churring Earth plus Stoning minus Death pact signet plus cry of frustration. That gives it nice damage and nice messing. You might want some other hero (curses necro ...) with weakness.

for air ele heros, you'd want to stick to B-surge:

[B-surge Hero;OghjgwMooS6QIDXVLgYMeThDCAA](shock arrow/shellshock are optional slots, and res sig can be dropped for hard res)

The only decent fire ele build heros run is SF:

[SF hero;OgVDMoysO0txqvID0DwFIDBA]Less is more on an SF bar. The less time your hero spends casting other spells, the more time he spends spamming SF.

as for an earth ele, I don't find it a valueable enough attribute to run a pure warder, but it can be done:
[Warder hero;OghjkwMooOcVYBG7VcKQGpCBAA]I wouldn't recomend it, but if you feel you must. (again, res sig can be swapped for hard res)


I tend to avoid dual attunement heros as you'll have to babysit their upkeep.
Because I play in HM, I tend to use other characters as sources of armor ignoring damage, leaving eles in the role of support, (fire nuking just aint that great when your enemies have a huge 50% damage reducation from their 100AL and such.) but in NM, my SF bar will suffice. (I'd drop the Meobius sin for a 2nd SF'er though, heros utterly fail at anything attack-chain wise)

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