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greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

15 May 2008 at 05:04 - 1

i think the new everlasting tonics should be more then just town and outpost use. seems odd to me to create such a wanted item to only use it for standing around.
the new tonic doesnt use Emotes like the other tonics and cant be used out side of town like elf and candy corn. so it is just to stand around and sell in kama, or wait for party to fill. atleast the beetle has emotes it can use when standing around, phantom doesnt even have that. dont get me wrong i LOVE this tonic skin but alittle more to it would be nice!

/signed for out door use of new tonics.

i would love my RT to have this tonic and summon spirits

sorry about putting it in the wrong forum been a while since i posted anything that wasnt selling items **EDIT**

Leighwyn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle

Limbo

Mo/E

15 May 2008 at 05:05 - 2

wrong forum mayhap?

mazey vorstagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Nodnol

Meeting of Lost Minds

E/Mo

15 May 2008 at 05:09 - 3

/signed!
You're right

Obviously not in pvp, but in a normal pve instance you'll be a phantom for much longer. It would be fun to go an farm ice imps with an ice tonic tonic on, lol

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

15 May 2008 at 05:18 - 4

Wrong forum, but I will give this a...

/signed

This would just be randomly amusing.

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

15 May 2008 at 05:22 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by greyhawk

the new tonic doesnt use Emotes like the other tonics and cant be used out side of town like elf and candy corn. so it is just to stand around and sell in kama, or wait for party to fill.

Aww, really? I didn't realize that. Well, I did want it, now I don't. Thanks for the heads up.

Although it does kind of make sense - they would need to make all new animations so these 'costumes' could hold and use weapons. Same principle with the emotes. Animations aren't something you can just whip up. Still, they could just make your equipped items disappear unlike the elf and candy corn, and you would simply attack with the monster's (that you are disguised as) normal attack animation.

Meh, I dunno.

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

15 May 2008 at 05:27 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Aww, really? I didn't realize that. Well, I did want it, now I don't. Thanks for the heads up.

Although it does kind of make sense - they would need to make all new animations so these 'costumes' could hold and use weapons. Same principle with the emotes. Animations aren't something you can just whip up. Still, they could just make your equipped items disappear unlike the elf and candy corn, and you would simply attack with the monster's (that you are disguised as) normal attack animation.

Meh, I dunno.

Yes, the monsters all have caster/attack animations. Phantoms attack with their hands and cast with the /point emote, put up enchantments with part of the /laugh emote. So yes, very possible. It would be funny monking as a phantom. lol.

-rightuos-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

15 May 2008 at 05:27 - 7

i like the idea

and phantom has emotes, but only 2 /point /laugh

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

15 May 2008 at 05:44 - 8

Imagine a group of people vanquishing with these? That would be epic.

Rushin Roulette

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2007

Right here

Ende

15 May 2008 at 05:51 - 9

Hahah, Id love to see that in the Underworld.

Player:"Save the damn Reaper hes being killed"
Monk:" Which one is the Reaper I cant tell. Everyone looks the same"

/Signed because it would be too damn funny

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

15 May 2008 at 05:55 - 10

I agree it makes completely no sense that some tonics can be used outside but rollerbeetle or phantasmal cannot.
I so wanted to visually turn into a big badass monster when I'm actually turning into the demonic-evil-brutal-killing-machine-from-hell-ursan and pwninating everything that stands on my way bwahaha

Please fix the tonics, make them even more desirable rewards. For the sake of coolness.

Lyonette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

[PiG]

E/

15 May 2008 at 06:07 - 11

/signed

i kinda expected them to do this anyway... lol...

off-topic question if i may. do the everlasting rollerbeetle, yuletide and halloween tonics work in battle maps as well [pve obviously]?

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

15 May 2008 at 06:13 - 12

Yeah, it really is a shame you cant use them in explorable areas/missions

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

Mo/D

15 May 2008 at 06:17 - 13

/signed

Taking my phantom to the UW would be awesome. I'd love monking with those funny emotes too lol.

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

15 May 2008 at 08:51 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit

Imagine a group of people vanquishing with these? That would be epic.

also /rank and /zrank xD

on the note of the tonics being used outside-- yes. i would most definately love to be able to use it. i have an everlasting phan tonic and i do so wish it wasn't... so...... "limited"

~LeNa~

greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

15 May 2008 at 09:25 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by -rightuos-

i like the idea

and phantom has emotes, but only 2 /point /laugh

thanks i was trying to figure out which ones

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

15 May 2008 at 10:40 - 16

/signed
Would keep me amused for atleast a week

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

15 May 2008 at 10:56 - 17

/signed for all tonics. It might also be nice if we wouldn't lose them on dying.

shru

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

15 May 2008 at 13:12 - 18

/signed, as this might actualy convince me to buy an everlasting tonic.

Hollow Gein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Menos Espadas

N/

15 May 2008 at 13:39 - 19

/signed

It'd be fun to be able to use them in mission and explorable areas. I mean if they came out with a Margonite tonic, I'd actually buy one of these ridiculously over-priced items.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

15 May 2008 at 14:14 - 20

If the other tonics can be used in Explorables, the new ones should too.

papryk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Nancy

The Autonomy[?????????]

15 May 2008 at 15:12 - 21

/signed
it would be fun

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

15 May 2008 at 18:11 - 22

Idiocy.

The reason they can't be used outside is because they aren't based on a regular player model so they don't have attack, spell casting, or any other type of animations. The ones you can't use outsides don't have proper animations (bettle and phantom). The ones you can are basiclly armor sets that go over a standard player model (candy corn is like turning your character into a female necro and giving it a specific armor, elf is a male mesmer). They would have to completely redesign the models to include animations. Otherwise, you would just stand still while you are casting a spell or swinging a sword, which would look retarded.

/notsigned due to the major amount of coding/redesigning of character models this would take. Maybe a.net will try to stick to transmorgaher tonics of character models that have combat animations so next month you'll be able to use them outside.

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

15 May 2008 at 21:31 - 23

damn the first thing i thought when i first heard of the phantasmal was that it would be awesome on my necro raising hordes of minions as a big ghost!

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

E/

15 May 2008 at 22:19 - 24

/signed, no downsides and it would be pretty amusing.

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/

16 May 2008 at 07:56 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

The reason they can't be used outside is because they aren't based on a regular player model so they don't have attack, spell casting, or any other type of animations. The ones you can't use outsides don't have proper animations (bettle and phantom).

/notsigned due to the major amount of coding/redesigning of character models this would take.

Not really :

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Rain_Beetle
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Portal_Wraith

/signed

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

16 May 2008 at 09:42 - 26

I'm sure those guys have some kind of animation, like ilipol pointed out. Even so, who cares if you can only do /point and /laugh animations as a phantom, I just want to be one and kill monsters.

/signed

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

17 May 2008 at 06:02 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Idiocy.

The reason they can't be used outside is because they aren't based on a regular player model so they don't have attack, spell casting, or any other type of animations. The ones you can't use outsides don't have proper animations (bettle and phantom). The ones you can are basiclly armor sets that go over a standard player model (candy corn is like turning your character into a female necro and giving it a specific armor, elf is a male mesmer). They would have to completely redesign the models to include animations. Otherwise, you would just stand still while you are casting a spell or swinging a sword, which would look retarded.

/notsigned due to the major amount of coding/redesigning of character models this would take. Maybe a.net will try to stick to transmorgaher tonics of character models that have combat animations so next month you'll be able to use them outside.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Form
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disguise

And while the 'copy monster skills' bug, many people tested that some models can be used even if they were not designed to be used by humans.

So... which profession emotes use the Rollebeetle, the Siege Devourer, the Norn bears, the Drakes, the Junundu, a Warthog and a Rat?
Oh... wait... none...

akodo_ryu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2007

Poland

Ordo Lupi Albi [OLA]

A/

17 May 2008 at 07:40 - 28

/signed
Would be damn funny

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

17 May 2008 at 18:41 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Form
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Disguise

And while the 'copy monster skills' bug, many people tested that some models can be used even if they were not designed to be used by humans.

So... which profession emotes use the Rollebeetle, the Siege Devourer, the Norn bears, the Drakes, the Junundu, a Warthog and a Rat?
Oh... wait... none...

And how did the drake look when he was wielding a sword? That's right, he didn't/couldn't.
And again, Rift Phantoms don't HAVE combat animations.

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

18 May 2008 at 09:41 - 30

/signed

I would love it

I Is Special

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

NJ

To Gain Extra Mobility We Play [NUDE]

W/

18 May 2008 at 12:56 - 31

/signed because it just makes sence.
+i like the thread title

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

18 May 2008 at 15:25 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

And how did the drake look when he was wielding a sword? That's right, he didn't/couldn't.
And again, Rift Phantoms don't HAVE combat animations.

They do, they hit with their hands, I guess with a weapon they'll do the same animation but still deal damage and I think most people won't mind if they are doing area of effect slapping(instead of a scythe attack) when you equip a scythe. The only problem might be where the weapon is placed I think the end of the nose for a drake works well, since either you're attacking with a weapon on the end of your face or firing a projectile out of your mouth(maby one of the potions will be a drake one).

/Signed

shoyon456

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

D/

18 May 2008 at 18:48 - 33

One problem I have forseen now that I finally bought one (grats to me!)

When clicking on the tonic while already under its effect, it says "Item cannot be used while already under the effects of another disguise or FORM SKILL"

My main is a dervish, so does that mean if i decide to go out packing Avatar of Lyssa I cannot use the tonic in pve zones? If they do make them usable outside towns, they need to fix this where it can be used on top of a form skill. Am I right?

EDIT: Coupled with this should be the ability to toogle the tonic appearance on/off. I know its mainly for the normal tonics to last 50 mins, but since I have an everlasting and can just click to my hearts content, i dont want to be stuck as a reaper for a full 50 mins unless I rezone -_-

greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

18 May 2008 at 21:56 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoyon456

EDIT: Coupled with this should be the ability to toogle the tonic appearance on/off. I know its mainly for the normal tonics to last 50 mins, but since I have an everlasting and can just click to my hearts content, i dont want to be stuck as a reaper for a full 50 mins unless I rezone -_-

i like the idea of being able to turn off the tonic, something like /rest to turn it off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Is Special

+i like the thread title

^^ thanks

Sword Liger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

London

Valendra's Kingdom [VK]

W/E

19 May 2008 at 18:22 - 35

/signed
Would be cool to see a party of all sorts of animals fighting lol.

pdspam

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

03 Jul 2008 at 00:32 - 36

/signed
tonics should not just be for standing idle you should be able to use em while pveing

Lishy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

03 Jul 2008 at 00:40 - 37

/signed
Roller beetles have all the necessary animations and so do the other forms.
Although they should change the type of it so that it won't interrupt stuff like Junundu or Avater of Balthazar.
But tonics should be easier to get. Perhaps a scavenger hunt? XP

The Mountain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Realm of the GWAMMs

Teh Academy [PhD]

W/

03 Jul 2008 at 06:41 - 38

/signed for the lawls

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

03 Jul 2008 at 22:46 - 39

/signed. I might actually keep my everlasting tonic.

wbawarrior

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

03 Jul 2008 at 23:01 - 40

/signed this sounds like it would be very interesting