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Hikeotron

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Event Horizon [eH]

Mo/

15 May 2008 at 13:29 - 1

http://www.gameshout.com/news/e3_200...ticle10109.htm

Quote:

Other publishers have decided to drop out of the show include NCSoft, the publisher of games such as the Guild Wars series...

[Please move if this isn't in the right section, but i didn't see anywhere else to put it ^^]
Just read this, and realised that NCSoft isn't participating in E3 2008

therefore not even a slight glimps into GW2 or even the beta!

Ive been looking around forums trying to piece together what little information i could find about GW2 with hardly any avail.
Im not sure what NCSoft are trying to achieve by hiding alot of information. Theres a very subtle balance between hiding information to create hype and antipication, and losing dedicated fans of GW1 because of it - some even migrating to other mmorpgs

I respect their right for invitation only alpha testers, but i hope the beta testing is not only available to everyone that preorders GW2 but lives up to the hype they've created for themselves.

FrAnt1c??

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Join Date: Jan 2007

Belgium

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Mo/

15 May 2008 at 13:34 - 2

The E3 is dead, Leipzich and the Tokio game show are the new "big shot" game expos

Ego

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scandinavia

Straight Outta Kamadan [KMD]

W/

15 May 2008 at 14:10 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

The E3 is dead, Leipzich and the Tokio game show are the new "big shot" game expos

E3 is going big scale this year again after last year's failure.

mystical nessAL

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

DDrk

W/Mo

15 May 2008 at 14:11 - 4

A topic like that has been writen awhile ago and we discussed on how bad it is for NCsoft and not rushing to do the demo will be for our and their best.

pfaile

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Join Date: Oct 2007

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P/R

15 May 2008 at 14:13 - 5

Yep, E3 was about generating hype through the community. Those in power decided that it should be a meeting of game makers and I guess a "select" few to spread the word. Trying to make us rely on G4 makes me hate this even more, print media & gametrailers ftw.

TheYellowKid

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Mina Sucks [Blz]

15 May 2008 at 15:20 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by d00m1n470r

E3 is going big scale this year again after last year's failure.

Is it???? i heard differently, dont see how it would be big with all the companies that arent participating.

Surena

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N/Me

15 May 2008 at 15:24 - 7

Leipzig for sure with Martin Kerstein presenting.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

15 May 2008 at 15:26 - 8

gw2? oh that thing announced april 2007, looking like vaporware atm
pics or it didnt happen

super strokey

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N/

15 May 2008 at 15:36 - 9

I wish they were there totally, with the new PS3 ncsoft games and with GW2 coming next year it would have been really nice however im pretty sure we wont see anything for a while on any of them... sigh

C2K

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

15 May 2008 at 15:47 - 10

E3 decided to become an invite only event and the price to purchase space actually went up. Considering that E3 was used by developers to get ordinary people interested and excited in their products rather than just showcasing their future titles, its no surprise E3 is a dead con.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

15 May 2008 at 16:26 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowerpoke

gw2? oh that thing announced april 2007, looking like vaporware atm
pics or it didnt happen

My impatience, let me show you it.

GTA IV was first announced in November 2004. It took over two years for a teaser and screenies to be available.

It only looks like vaporware if you have an unreasonable view of software development timelines.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

15 May 2008 at 16:43 - 12

Realistically, I think PAX is the earliest con where we can see any decent new info about GW2.

Balan Makki

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15 May 2008 at 16:53 - 13

May be that Arena Net has some very unique and ground breaking features for GWII and wants to hit the ground running, fully committed. Release things to early and Blizzard, Funcom, Mythic, etc will just poach the ideas for inclusion into their own, new (soon to be released) Pay-to-Play MMOs.

Buster

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Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

15 May 2008 at 17:07 - 14

Well PAX is about 3 months away. I'll be suprised if they show or tell us anything before then.

romeus petrus

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Urgoz Warren

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15 May 2008 at 17:44 - 15

Agreed, it was probably too early for anet to show anything related to GW2 in E3. I still believe (?hope) we will see the beta as announced in the second half of 08.

BenjZee

Forge Runner

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The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

15 May 2008 at 17:51 - 16

would be nice with some new info
all eyes to Regina who is currently veiwing this thread

HawkofStorms

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Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

15 May 2008 at 18:00 - 17

E3 is no longer an open event. A lot of companies aren't participating anymore. And even if they WERE at E3, we wouldn't get to see any new info because it is a closed event now.
Not surprised, nor do I really care.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 May 2008 at 18:03 - 18

Please hold yer horses, ANet'll show stuff about GW2 when they want or are ready to.

That said, can't say I'm really bummed about pulling from E3. It's actually a pretty good idea.

Kashrlyyk

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

15 May 2008 at 18:06 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrAnt1c²

The E3 is dead, Leipzich and the Tokio game show are the new "big shot" game expos

Next year Games Convention is dead, too. The name stays in Leipzig and the exposition goes to Cologne.

Ravious

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Servants of Fortuna

N/Mo

15 May 2008 at 18:12 - 20

I also like that Blizzard is holding a press conference the same time as E3 _in a different place_. That is a big f u if I ever saw one.

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 May 2008 at 18:24 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravious

I also like that Blizzard is holding a press conference the same time as E3 _in a different place_. That is a big f u if I ever saw one.

Hard to beat the Blizz dragon. Regarding having it on the same date: I admit that's pretty funny, but it would be interesting to see if the show-up was greater than E3's. Now *that* would be quite a slap to the face.

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Mercury Angel

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

15 May 2008 at 19:05 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravious

I also like that Blizzard is holding a press conference the same time as E3 _in a different place_. That is a big f u if I ever saw one.

I believe Activision is doing the same.
Edit - Duh, that's in the article. What was I thinking?

E3 shot themselves in the foot. Who in the world thought that taking the best E3 has to offer (public accessibility and sheer size/variety) OUT of the formula was a good idea?
And how does having a smaller, crappy E3 with INCREASED prices help the smaller, independent game developers?

In any case, I'm not surprised NCSoft is pulling out. Doesn't really sound like an ideal use of marketing funds to me, either.

Gregslot

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Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

15 May 2008 at 19:12 - 23

Good job Mercury Angel, i gave up on posting after seeing that.

E3 thought they were the SH*# of gamming propaganda, thinking their name was already enought to make companies fight for a space on their show.
As we can see... they were totally wrong.
We can only watch if they will really rule (eventually) with their cocky atitude or they will fall and hit their faces on the ground.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

15 May 2008 at 19:39 - 24

Quote:

Who in the world thought that taking the best E3 has to offer (public accessibility and sheer size/variety) OUT of the formula was a good idea?

You assume that they intended to remain an accessible and relevant gaming convention. I think the intent was to become a business expo geared more toward industry insider networking.

Thankfully, they failed.

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

15 May 2008 at 20:13 - 25

Um, since no one has mentioned this...

E3 was never NOT invite-only.

E3 for Everyone was a public event, but those were separate.

E3 has always been a press and special invite event, but in recent years has gotten so overblown that it collapsed and is now in a minimalistic mode. Anyone who has followed the actual progress of the E3 (rather than just the announcements) would have seen this coming. Its dying because it ended up too big for its own good. It became less about the gaming industry and more about "booth babes", big production booths, private parties, and the such. It was chaos. But never, other than the E3E events, was it open-invite.

NCSoft not going this year is not surprising to stay on topic. E3 is a dying horse, and unfortunately the chaotic events don't appeal to the common developer anymore. Hell even EA and T2 don't like them anymore due to their ridiculousness.

Mercury Angel

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

15 May 2008 at 21:37 - 26

Oh, that's right. I'd forgotten about the "for everyone" part.

And I guess I remember E3 more fondly from the previews of Prophecies, Factions, and GW:EN. (Don't remember if they previewed Nightfall publicly at E3. I do know it was shown privately in 06 "Also making an appearance will be the next chapter in ArenaNet's Guild Wars franchise, though it will only be shown behind closed doors.")

Nostalgia does distort memories, after all.