Constant freezes/crashes

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

So I was going to start playing GW again after some time off, so I redownloaded it and went to play, Ascalon City loads up and I can run around for about 30 seconds - 1 minute, and then the game completely freezes. Ctrl + Alt + Del doesn't work, no mouse, no sound, nothing. I have to completely unplug my computer and restart.

I have played the game just fine before with the setup I have, but I have installed numerous updates from Windows Automatic Update program, and I have gone from Vista to Vista w/ SP1. Also I just downloaded Nvidias newest forceware driver just the other day, and an updated driver for my soundcard.

So here's some info:

System:
CPU: Intel (R) Pentium (R) D CPU 3.0 GHz
Ram: 2.0 GB
Video Card: Evga Nvidia 8800 GTS
Video Card Driver: 175.16
Sound Card: SoundBlaster X-fi XtremeGamer
Sound Card Driver: 2.15.0006
Motherboard: ECS RC410-M (generic Compaq motherboard)
OS: Windows Vista 32-bit with SP1 (I've also tried running it in the Windows XP SP2 compatibility mode.

320 Gig WD HD with plenty of free space as well.

Like I said used to play fine before all of the updates I installed. Loads fine everything looks ok, but then it freezes. Also if I open it up and play for a few seconds but close it out before it freezes windows media player will randomly open up after I've closed out of GW every time.

Any help is highly appreciated.

jimme

jimme

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mo/

I've had this before , or something similliar.

When was the last time that you've cleaned your PC from the inside?
Because dust was my reason for GW freezing.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

It's been..............a long time, in fact I bought a thing of canned air last weekend to do so, but probably won't get a chance to take it all apart and blow it out and reassemble it until saturday. But I don't see how that would effect just one game?

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmpaskiet
Also I just downloaded Nvidias newest forceware driver just the other day.
Try a driver rollback. I've had issues with nVidia betas - in fact, the latest one I'm using is the current WHQL but downloaded from Windows Updates rather than nVidia.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

Yeah, I was considering that anyways as for some reason the newest driver won't let me put my monitor in anything about 1024.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

It might be the switch ''-mce'' At the end of your Guild Wars target line causing that to come up after you shut off Guild Wars.

''-mce : Start the client with Windows Media Center compatibility, switching the game to full screen and restarts Media Center (if available) after the client is closed.''

If you find this switch in your Guild Wars target, try removing it?

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -mce

to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Switches

Ta.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

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Cool, thanks all, seems to run fine now and I don't have to close out of windows media player everytime lol.

Snograt

Snograt

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Ah, I see - 175.16 IS the latest WHQL version, released 3 days ago. Still, a driver rollback would still be my best guess. If it doesn't work, you haven't lost anything, hey?

Brianna

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

What fixed it, did you Rollback drivers? Or did the -mce switch suggestion fix the whole problem?

Cheers either way.

Oh yeah - and I'm not touching the new drivers mine work just fine.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

Yeah the driver rollback fixed it. It is a WHQL, but I had some other issues like I mentioned above with it apart from the game crash.

The -mce deal I don't think was "causing" the crash, just an annoyance after exiting the game if it didn't crash, but it was still very helpful thank you.

Brianna

Brianna

Insane & Inhumane

Join Date: Feb 2006

Awesome, I figured it was a driver issue, I was going to suggest that but Snog was way ahead on it, glad you got it sorted out. I'm not even surprised that the new drivers caused this problem - Nvidia has been shady lately for some reason.

I'll wait to hear more good/bad reports before I think about getting them, because right now I have no problems; ''Don't fix it if it isn't broken.''

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

Yeah this is the first time I've had a problem with this card/driver, and I've had it since a little after they released the 8800s, so for the most part I've been pretty happy with it. It may have been the combination of going to Service pack 1 and the driver as well, but I'd rather roll back the driver than Service pack 1.

Brianna

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Service pack 1 is fine, in fact I heard that installing SP1 could mess up some drivers - and you'd have to reinstall them.

So really I'd advise not to roll back SP1, that would be a bad idea hehe, good thing you didn't.

And I believe I have the same card as you, the 320mb 8800 GTS.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

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I've got the 640 MB one, went all out and blew my whole tax return on my computer that year lol.

Brianna

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Nice, well the newer 8800's surely do trump the old ones, but at least you have the 640mb.

I got the 320mb for very cheap, that's why I went with it, although I do loathe the 320mb size.. at least it was an upgrade from my 256mb 8600GT though.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

N/Me

Yeah I had like a really old crappy Geforce card. I could play most stuff on low setting, but it just wasn't cutting it anymore. Next I just need to get a new motherboard and processor.

Snograt

Snograt

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Yay, I solved one

So many issues with nVidia drivers over the years - this is the first new WHQL since December, IIRC.

dmpaskiet

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

FBLS

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Yeah I think 169 something was the last one.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

I am on Vista and SP1, I lock up on occasion, so I disabled a bunch of start up programs and now I haven't locked up for days. Some were Roxio stuff (Roxio Suite, CD burning and such) and I turned off the Windows Desktop Manager Service (Aero), but recently turned that back on with no issues. So I'll start enabling things 1 at a time in the start up and see which is causing the issue. Latest nvidia (non-beta) is 175.16 and came out on May 13th and works great with Guild Wars. Haven't had an nvidia issue with drivers in the 3 years I've been playing Guild Wars.

Snograt

Snograt

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Hmm, thanks for the reminder - I keep meaning to disable that Roxio startup crap.

I'm going to try the new 175.16 when I get home, purely because I do have occasional graphical issues. My finger will be hovering on that rollback button though!

/hijack
Anyone know why GW animations will SOMETIMES stop working? Every so often, animations like waterfalls, campfires and suchlike just appear as static images. It's random - sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. I'm also noticing a lot more pop-up since I upgraded to a 22" monitor - think that may be because the image is so much clearer that it's making it more noticeable?
/un-hijack (sorry)

Brianna

Brianna

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
Hmm, thanks for the reminder - I keep meaning to disable that Roxio startup crap.

I'm going to try the new 175.16 when I get home, purely because I do have occasional graphical issues. My finger will be hovering on that rollback button though!

/hijack
Anyone know why GW animations will SOMETIMES stop working? Every so often, animations like waterfalls, campfires and suchlike just appear as static images. It's random - sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. I'm also noticing a lot more pop-up since I upgraded to a 22" monitor - think that may be because the image is so much clearer that it's making it more noticeable?
/un-hijack (sorry)
This is a problem everyone has suffered - every since the game came out, no matter what rig setup you have. It's just the game, for some reason the animations stop working after you play for a little while, happens to me every single day.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brianna
This is a problem everyone has suffered - every since the game came out, no matter what rig setup you have. It's just the game, for some reason the animations stop working after you play for a little while, happens to me every single day.
Bingo. Most noticeable on Voltaic spears and Torment weapons, as well as other animated skins such as Astral Staves and Silverwing RBows.