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Now thats a load of shit.
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Replaying Guild Wars
-Loki-
Zinger314
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It's worse than that. Zinger has an insatiable superiority complex that leaves him unable to refrain from crawling out from under the bridge and trying to create the monthly shitstorm. If he were truly here for help and guidance, he would drop the attitude.
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The fact that you say I have an "insatiable superiority complex" is actually amusing.
Something tells me that I'll just stick with my Necromancer, go max out the Norn title, then spend the rest of my days helping newbies in Ascalon...
Alleji
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I'd also advise that you get a sense of humor. The "Ritual Lord" comment was a slighted joke to justify my familarity with Ritualists. (although my Ritual Lord guide was the first one, as far as I know...)
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Factions was released on April 28th.
Pi ran a ritlord in our rspike during the preview weekend and we weren't the first to do it - copied it from someone else in tombs after seeing how broken it was.
Fail moar.
Hey, this is teh Internets. Whatever you say is gonna get nitpicked to death. Should've seen it coming >.>
Zinger314
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Hey, this is teh Internets. Whatever you say is gonna get nitpicked to death. Should've seen it coming >.>
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I popularized it for PvE and scrub FA. So there.
dread slayer
I like paras as long as they are unique...... I play Ra and other stuff in pvp wit my para as a Modded DA and he is very gud support.....
My 2 mains are ranger and sin......
Ranger: Interrupts/Traps/Stances/Beast Masters...........
I even farm UW wit my ranger and he isnt a trapper
Assasins: Daze/Ms+Db/Perma Shadow Form........
Even wit him i can farm Uw and other thingz.....
Every class is good.... U just need to kno and understand how to use them to their limit.
Imo its fun playing ranger, sin, and para.
*i know UW isnt everything but hey, i get 5-10 ectos every run, easy money*
My 2 mains are ranger and sin......
Ranger: Interrupts/Traps/Stances/Beast Masters...........
I even farm UW wit my ranger and he isnt a trapper
Assasins: Daze/Ms+Db/Perma Shadow Form........
Even wit him i can farm Uw and other thingz.....
Every class is good.... U just need to kno and understand how to use them to their limit.
Imo its fun playing ranger, sin, and para.
*i know UW isnt everything but hey, i get 5-10 ectos every run, easy money*
-Loki-
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Ranger: Interrupts/Traps/Stances/Beast Masters...........
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Agyar
You shouldn't be bothering, that's what you should be doing (or not doing, as the case may be).
Pleikki
Try Out Mesmer is Much Similar with nec and when you faind the secrets about it etc you notice its awesome class. MY primary is Nec aswell but i enjoy playing Monk sin and Mesmer aswell
Just.nl
Maybe go do something with your necromancer like Title hunting? If you got EoTN get full HoM.. or go save for obsidian armor !
If you got EoTN get full HoM.. or go save for obsidian armor !
Shyft the Pyro
Warrior.
In first-person view.
With no UI.
Trust me, it's for your own good. You (as a person) seem to be overthinking some things. You (as a necro) just hang back and cast. Now, you're saying you're coming back to the game we love, but you're already bored again.
You need to change. To rush in, screaming "CHARGE!" (yes, gimp your elite, it works for Devona), sword/axe/hammer in hand, Frenzy and Heal Sig on your bar, and let the adrenaline rush carry you until either the enemies fall at your feet or your party wakes up at a rez shrine.
Stop thinking and go with your F*CKING HEART.
If you still have one.
In first-person view.
With no UI.
Trust me, it's for your own good. You (as a person) seem to be overthinking some things. You (as a necro) just hang back and cast. Now, you're saying you're coming back to the game we love, but you're already bored again.
You need to change. To rush in, screaming "CHARGE!" (yes, gimp your elite, it works for Devona), sword/axe/hammer in hand, Frenzy and Heal Sig on your bar, and let the adrenaline rush carry you until either the enemies fall at your feet or your party wakes up at a rez shrine.
Stop thinking and go with your F*CKING HEART.
If you still have one.
cellardweller
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Warriors - How?
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newbie warrior>jump in with 8 attack skills and probably die
bad warrior>jump in with 8 defense skills and tank
Mediocre warrior>Destroy important targets while maintaining party wide defense
Good warrior>Bodyblock their offense, destroy their important targets and shepherd the AI into adjacent AoEs all while maintaining partywide defense.
Excellent Warrior> Don't know, I'll let you know when I get there.
Maybe I just haven't been deep enough into other roles, but I have found them to fit into the following broad groups of increasing complexity,.
Single target dps (spearagon, blood nec, warrior played simply) - needs to know who the enemies are
AoE DPS (fire ele, curses nec) - Needs to know who and where the enemies are
Single target disruption (disruption mes, interrupt ranger) - Needs to know who the enemies are, and what they are doing.
AI Manipulator (Warrior, Derv) - Needs to know who the enemies are, where they are, and where they will be.
AI Counteracter (Active Prot monk) - Needs to know who the enemies are, what they are doing, and what they will be doing.
Turtle222
I do not think you should play. It seems you're guaranteed to be bored of it in 1-2 weeks and looking to buy games to test your new laptop's capabilities
BodhiNightwind
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Because its the profession responsible for predicting and controlling the AI's position.
newbie warrior>jump in with 8 attack skills and probably die bad warrior>jump in with 8 defense skills and tank Mediocre warrior>Destroy important targets while maintaining party wide defense Good warrior>Bodyblock their offense, destroy their important targets and shepherd the AI into adjacent AoEs all while maintaining partywide defense. Excellent Warrior> Don't know, I'll let you know when I get there. Maybe I just haven't been deep enough into other roles, but I have found them to fit into the following broad groups of increasing complexity,. Single target dps (spearagon, blood nec, warrior played simply) - needs to know who the enemies are AoE DPS (fire ele, curses nec) - Needs to know who and where the enemies are Single target disruption (disruption mes, interrupt ranger) - Needs to know who the enemies are, and what they are doing. AI Manipulator (Warrior, Derv) - Needs to know who the enemies are, where they are, and where they will be. AI Counteracter (Active Prot monk) - Needs to know who the enemies are, what they are doing, and what they will be doing. |
a very noble attempt at trying to make the easiest class almost seem nuanced.
ElinoraNeSangre
LOL, how did you know you needed to put in the "this topic is serious" disclaimer? 
One thing I'm doing to get a good replay out of it is playing a Mesmer, going for survivor the normal way (just playing the game), and only using skills from Nightfall. So far, it's goodness.
Something like that aside, I would say try Warrior. A nice core profession, very different from Necro,
Alternately, Mesmers might be to your tastes because there's some fun hex laying to be had.
Dervish... eh. I'm torn on them. They can be fun, yes, but they didn't catch on with me as much. Your milage may vary. My gut feeling is to say to try Derv or Warrior though to get a feel for the in the thick of it combat stuff. If you hate it, make a mesmer.
Thinking about heading to Ascalon myself this weekend and giving out some free stuff...
One thing I'm doing to get a good replay out of it is playing a Mesmer, going for survivor the normal way (just playing the game), and only using skills from Nightfall. So far, it's goodness.
Something like that aside, I would say try Warrior. A nice core profession, very different from Necro,
Alternately, Mesmers might be to your tastes because there's some fun hex laying to be had.
Dervish... eh. I'm torn on them. They can be fun, yes, but they didn't catch on with me as much. Your milage may vary. My gut feeling is to say to try Derv or Warrior though to get a feel for the in the thick of it combat stuff. If you hate it, make a mesmer.
Thinking about heading to Ascalon myself this weekend and giving out some free stuff...
Shadowz Love
Dont dismiss the paragon as a boring, "gay looking" character
Paragons are very powerful buffers which can be extremely fun to play
as well as being almost required for the top elite mission builds
As for other choices:
Monk - Very satisfying when healing/proting in an elite group
- Though if your group fails it is entirely your fault
Warrior -Very un-versatile
-Best used with URSAN lol
Ranger - again not a lot of versatility
- can be very fun when using interupts
Derv - An overpowered warrior with effective self heals
- can be used to solo
Sin - No comment
Rit - I cant really help on this one not knowing a lot about them
Mesmer - the most under-rated profession
- Can be effective im most things
Ele - It can be a joy singlehandedly dropping 3 MS and watching the destruction unfold
- For all out annihilation an ele is the way to go
I can tell you all these things but ultimately you just have to make the choice
Or you can wait for GW2 lol
Gl with your choice
Paragons are very powerful buffers which can be extremely fun to play
as well as being almost required for the top elite mission builds
As for other choices:
Monk - Very satisfying when healing/proting in an elite group
- Though if your group fails it is entirely your fault
Warrior -Very un-versatile
-Best used with URSAN lol
Ranger - again not a lot of versatility
- can be very fun when using interupts
Derv - An overpowered warrior with effective self heals
- can be used to solo
Sin - No comment
Rit - I cant really help on this one not knowing a lot about them
Mesmer - the most under-rated profession
- Can be effective im most things
Ele - It can be a joy singlehandedly dropping 3 MS and watching the destruction unfold
- For all out annihilation an ele is the way to go
I can tell you all these things but ultimately you just have to make the choice
Or you can wait for GW2 lol
Gl with your choice
Agyar
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Why do you people even bother.
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Warrior -Very un-versatile
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zwei2stein
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a very noble attempt at trying to make the easiest class almost seem nuanced.
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Warrior is pretty complex class if you manage to learn2play. Everytime you improve you get to see it.
-Loki-
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As for other choices:
Monk - Very satisfying when healing/proting in an elite group - Though if your group fails it is entirely your fault Warrior -Very un-versatile -Best used with URSAN lol Ranger - again not a lot of versatility |
RiKio
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Dont dismiss the paragon as a boring, "gay looking" character
Paragons are very powerful buffers which can be extremely fun to play as well as being almost required for the top elite mission builds As for other choices: Monk - Very satisfying when healing/proting in an elite group - Though if your group fails it is entirely your fault Warrior -Very un-versatile -Best used with URSAN lol Ranger - again not a lot of versatility - can be very fun when using interupts Derv - An overpowered warrior with effective self heals - can be used to solo Sin - No comment Rit - I cant really help on this one not knowing a lot about them Mesmer - the most under-rated profession - Can be effective im most things Ele - It can be a joy singlehandedly dropping 3 MS and watching the destruction unfold - For all out annihilation an ele is the way to go |
And in response to the OP: continue with your necro or run an Imbagon. The choice is yours.
Red Sand
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Because its the profession responsible for predicting and controlling the AI's position.
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Good warriors know where to stand, and where (and when) to move. They control the killing ground, which allows DPS classes to concentrate fire on single targets, and lets healers concentrate their healing on just one or two people.
If you don't understand that, warrior or non-warrior alike, you fail.
Nyree
I think that might explain why alot of the warriors that i played with failed at tanking, because they think they are the most easy class to play...
I'm not saying that playing a warrior is hard, because it isn't, but almost all the warriors tankers in my slaver's/DoA/Uw groups didn't know how to pull properly and didn't know were to stand, i've played with elementalists, dervishes and even ritualists tankers, and usually they knew what to do better than the warriors...
I'm not saying that playing a warrior is hard, because it isn't, but almost all the warriors tankers in my slaver's/DoA/Uw groups didn't know how to pull properly and didn't know were to stand, i've played with elementalists, dervishes and even ritualists tankers, and usually they knew what to do better than the warriors...
Tyla
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Even post-supernerfs Necro is still far and away the most overpowered PvE class. Everything else feels inferior because, well, they are.
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Imbagon says hi.
Dante the Warlord
Well, Warrior is great and all, but ive had some of the most fun with a dervish. Dervish are so fun to use because of avatars and they are plain awesome. If you play war, be sure you have 1 mil of gold cause that will be empty when you finish playing with him...
cause that will be empty when you finish playing with him...
Malice Black
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No, Paragons are.
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Tyla
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Imbagon/Ursan are one in the same..baed.
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Doesn't stop them being imba though..............
zwei2stein
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I think that might explain why alot of the warriors that i played with failed at tanking, .
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Malice Black
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No. They failed because they were tanking.
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Red Sand
We've now come completely off topic. I'm sorry I got involved.
EroChrono
Honestly if you like your Necro that much, and you want to replay the game just do it in HM.
Opinions differ on how hard hard mode actually is, but at least it's more fun than nm.
If you're not interested in HM because it's too much of a bother, you'll probably enjoy playing a warrior, as you can play it without paying a whole lot of attention and still not screw it up (in pve nm anyways)
Opinions differ on how hard hard mode actually is, but at least it's more fun than nm.
If you're not interested in HM because it's too much of a bother, you'll probably enjoy playing a warrior, as you can play it without paying a whole lot of attention and still not screw it up (in pve nm anyways)
zwei2stein
Back from OT:
Wild idea: make lowbie necro in Nf and/or Factions and play them till you hit L20.
Those early areas offer a lot of content that you possibly didnt experience as necro (or at all) already.
Wild idea: make lowbie necro in Nf and/or Factions and play them till you hit L20.
Those early areas offer a lot of content that you possibly didnt experience as necro (or at all) already.
high priestess anya
WARNING ONLY FOR EXP PLAYERS. THIS IS A PRO BUILD AND WILL TAKE SOME MASTERING
try dervish with these skills:
D/A way of perfection, shroud of distress, mystic regen, mystic vigor, victorious sweep, mystic sweep and rez sig..
for your elite you could use vow of silence (but monks wiill hate you even though you heal yourself up to 150 per enemy within scythe range with each hit) or any avatar, i preffered dwayna.
if you use vow of silence you can time it where you can maintain all enchants whilst being immune to casters, i like using it to interupt their spells also
bare in mind you will need 30+energy.. if you can get good at swapping between vamp, zealous and armor penetraing scythes you will have a lot of fun, especially in RA. i was accused of hacking many times when no one could hit me because of shroud of distress and i was immune to spells :P
scythe mastery=15/16
earth prayers=8
mysticism=9
shadow arts=5
watch out for mesmers with sig of midnight, man i rage when i see mesmers...i mean like....RAAAAAAGE
Also shattering assault from assassins, these are the only skill swhich will hurt this build
also you could swap mystic sweep for cripple sweep since it got nerfed
try dervish with these skills:
D/A way of perfection, shroud of distress, mystic regen, mystic vigor, victorious sweep, mystic sweep and rez sig..
for your elite you could use vow of silence (but monks wiill hate you even though you heal yourself up to 150 per enemy within scythe range with each hit) or any avatar, i preffered dwayna.
if you use vow of silence you can time it where you can maintain all enchants whilst being immune to casters, i like using it to interupt their spells also
bare in mind you will need 30+energy.. if you can get good at swapping between vamp, zealous and armor penetraing scythes you will have a lot of fun, especially in RA. i was accused of hacking many times when no one could hit me because of shroud of distress and i was immune to spells :P
scythe mastery=15/16
earth prayers=8
mysticism=9
shadow arts=5
watch out for mesmers with sig of midnight, man i rage when i see mesmers...i mean like....RAAAAAAGE
Also shattering assault from assassins, these are the only skill swhich will hurt this build
also you could swap mystic sweep for cripple sweep since it got nerfed
Phoenix Tears
When you don't have played anythign of GW yet in hardmode, then you don't really played GW yet imo.
NM is for Noobs, if you keep anythign of yourself, you play through all Campaigns and EotN in Hard Mode, then you will be sure that you will have enough gameplay experience for any Elite Area, especially when you do all of it without Ursan.
You want to replay, do everything in GW in Hard Mode, there is your replay.
But when you just want to replay NM with a new cheacter, I suggest you Elementalist, Monk or Ritualist, but Ranger is also very nice
Also you will get some titles ,that you will receive only through hardmode.
Don't you want to collect titles with your main Chara ? Alone collecting them gives you enough to do with your Main
NM is for Noobs, if you keep anythign of yourself, you play through all Campaigns and EotN in Hard Mode, then you will be sure that you will have enough gameplay experience for any Elite Area, especially when you do all of it without Ursan.
You want to replay, do everything in GW in Hard Mode, there is your replay.
But when you just want to replay NM with a new cheacter, I suggest you Elementalist, Monk or Ritualist, but Ranger is also very nice
Also you will get some titles ,that you will receive only through hardmode.
Don't you want to collect titles with your main Chara ? Alone collecting them gives you enough to do with your Main
Aera Lure
Much as I loved Guild Wars over the years, I never really found it to have that much replay value. Low level cap, limit therefore to monster level cap, easy to obtain max items, rare items simply being alt skins, etc. Great concept and we all loved it, but it really was never intended to be a PvE game. Most of the fun I had in GW instead revolved around who I was playing with, and then the occasional sets of new content and to explore and skills to obtain.
If one is going to return after a long hiatus, I too would suggest hard mode. After a "retirement" spell I came back and pursued Legendary Guardian (pre Ursan and consumables) and loved it. Simply loved it. Really the only title I can say that for. There was nostalgia in going back to some missions I hadnt been to for some time, there was a little more challenge. There was simply something to do. Helps of course I had someone great to pursue it with as well.
Maybe make a new character and go all the way through all that, though I'm not sure you need to go that far. Simply take your favorite and move through obtaining Legendary Guardian is my advice.
I very much do not agree with this though:
If one is going to return after a long hiatus, I too would suggest hard mode. After a "retirement" spell I came back and pursued Legendary Guardian (pre Ursan and consumables) and loved it. Simply loved it. Really the only title I can say that for. There was nostalgia in going back to some missions I hadnt been to for some time, there was a little more challenge. There was simply something to do. Helps of course I had someone great to pursue it with as well.
Maybe make a new character and go all the way through all that, though I'm not sure you need to go that far. Simply take your favorite and move through obtaining Legendary Guardian is my advice.
I very much do not agree with this though:
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kadesxys
like you i also have a necro that has been playin since beta i do like necro roll in just about all things in game. my 2nd best went to a monk cause no one really ever wanted to be one. the nxt up i would go for if you like necro is a rit there is still a big field that has not yet been played. and one other thing the game that we all bout is called GUILD WARS so get in guild and war thats what your missing
Kula
Agree on the replay value, especially if you've been playing since beta like many of us. Nowadays I log on 2-3x/week and can't stomach PvEing for longer than an hour, so I'll never be able to spread out the accomplishments across my 9 characters in time for GW2. Utlimately, my goal is to try and get a decent HoM for my main and then just casual PvP from there on out.
Right now I'd suggest trying other games instead. I just bought Crysis for $17.99 and am looking forward to some more adrenaline + fast-twitch action than what I'm used to.
Right now I'd suggest trying other games instead. I just bought Crysis for $17.99 and am looking forward to some more adrenaline + fast-twitch action than what I'm used to.
FeroxC
Try a Paragon they are underrated. Ive got 5 level 20s and Paragon is my favourite (just got koabd with him).
You don't need to use the Imbagon build and its a lot of grinding to get Save yourselves(i never did).
You don't need to use the Imbagon build and its a lot of grinding to get Save yourselves(i never did).
Malice Black
The Imbagon party wide protection can be replicated to some degree without SY!
3X attack skills (lightning spear, burning spear, blank)
Focused Anger
Anthem of Flame
They're on Fire!
TNTF!
AR or rez
As long as things burn, you win. Just aggro as much as allowed, keep everyone in range, and the red bars rarely drop. Couple with an earth warder, bars never drop.
Anyways back on-topic...para own forget necros.
3X attack skills (lightning spear, burning spear, blank)
Focused Anger
Anthem of Flame
They're on Fire!
TNTF!
AR or rez
As long as things burn, you win. Just aggro as much as allowed, keep everyone in range, and the red bars rarely drop. Couple with an earth warder, bars never drop.
Anyways back on-topic...para own
forget necros.
Thizzle
If your choosing between Dervish, Warrior, or Mesmer. Then I suggest you go Dervish. Warrior got extremely boring, Mesmer is fun in PvP, and Dervish is just great to play. My idea to fun is to have a class in each group. You don't want to play a Rit and be bored since you already played Necro, you want something totally different that will keep your interest when you get bored of the other. You should give Dervish a try for sure, I had a good time playing it.
Magikarp
whats the point of this thread? to give our opinions on what you should play? either pick a profession for your own reasons, or gaming isn't for you...