Trouble with my build...

So, I am having some trouble with my build, and I can only assume it is due to me trying to do too many things at once. Sadly, with the way my group of friends works, this is my lot in life. Here is by build as it stands:

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Spawning: 6+2
Restoration: 6+1
Channeling: 12+1+3
Shadow Arts: 10

Weapon:
Hale Tengu Channeling Staff of Fort
+60HP
+10E
-1ER/+15E
20% HSR

Armor:
+75HP
+3E

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So, now that you have seen it, let me explain.

I like the synergistic opportunities the Ritualist has to offer. As you can see, 2 of my skills (I'd sorta like it to be more) do not rely on spirits, but are that much better when they are around. That said, I found myself running short on energy when I used Ritual Lord.

As far as the healing and res are concerned; yes, we do have hero Monks, but I feel better about having a heal at my disposal. Especially one that cleanses of a condition. The res is really for wipes or near wipes.

I don't think much needs to be said about AR, PB or ES.

Do any of you pros have any suggestions to tweak this build and still get what I 'want' from it? It seems like a damn shame to put that many points into DA just for AP.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
-DR

P.S. - I only have access to Prophesies, Factions, and am about a 1/3 of the way through Nightfall.

well you can do fine with 9 points in [Assassin's Promise] however I don't see much point in it being in this build because [bloodsong] has excellent survivability and [vampirism] should outlive its recharge time easy enough and if it is for energy management then [offering of spirit] would be more beneficial and you would not have to spec into shadow arts

I like OoS, but I am not that far along.

I guess if the build is solid enough, then I am lost on which elite to choose in the mean time until I could get OoS.

-DR

you could try [Signet of Spirits] until you get there also my apologies I forgot that you had to cap OoS in the domain of secrets

So, I just did some testing with [signet of spirits]...

Energy is totally not a problem now. Having my spirits out and ready, OTOH...

Maybe I need to go back to [Ritual Lord] and just sub something else for energy management... or get over 8/9 points going to one skill.

-DR

if your having trouble with spirits recharge you could change secondary to /Ranger and put [serpent's Quickness] for the quicker recharge and wouldn't have to put much in caus your spirits cast times are 3 secs each

Hmmm... very interesting indeed...

I also was doing some reading (probably too much) and was intrigued by [Soul Twisting] to drop in a spirit right away and have it instantly recharge. And, so long as I don't go crazy with the [Painful Bond] I will probably be okay.

I'll give it a try and see how it goes. I can probably then get away with putting more into Resto to make my heals a little more useful. The spirits are usually "set it and forget it" so there is damage coming out constantly.

Thanks for in the replies and input thus far Vengeful Spirit. It has been a help. I'll report back what I find.

-DR

I'm always happy to help and please let me know how it turns out

Yeah, when you get a good Elite, you can focus on just 2-3 Attributes, which should help you do whatever you want to do. If you decide to go with SoS or Soul Twisting, you can drop Spawning Power. IMHO, you need better Monk builds for your Heroes. That way, you can safely drop the MB&S for more Channeling skills.

Try running a Rit/Mo build to cap some Elites for Resto and Healing/Prot. Of course, you could try replacing your Monks with Resto Rits...

use [[splinter weapon] in your bar, it is good ...

[bloodsong][vampirism][essence strike][splinter weapon][ancestors rage][mend body and soul][protective was kaolai][signet of spirits]

I don't like bringing res with h/h, you could always sub out essence strike for a res. ([[death pact signet] or [[flesh of my flesh])

Something I liked about [[Assassin's Promise] is that it recharges [[Essence Strike] which I can then use for greater energy return. That means even with 6 or 8 in Deadly you should not have energy problems if using A'sP right.
Before [[Anguish] was nerfed, I could recast [[Pain],[[Bloodsong],[[Anguish],[[Vampirism] and [[Painful bond] after a essence>AP>die>next target>essence, with just 8 in Deadly Arts.

Also non of your spirits sac their own health and you don't have weapon spells, 2+1 in spawning is more than you could ever need, its probably there form using rit lord, but now you don't have any spawning power skills.

It could use [[splinter weapon] yea, but it looks pretty good with painful as well, the synergy of 2 cheap attack spirits, painful, AR and high channeling give it pretty good pressure.
I like the build a lot, its a little different and very interesting.
The attributes could use a little work tough, and I think I'd try and put [[Pure was Li Ming] in there, maybe dumping the rez...

That looks an awful lot like the AP support build I posted recently...

So, after playing I am messing with one of two builds. Regardless, I have consolidated my attributes and runes.

Build 1:

Restoration: 12+2
Channeling: 12+4
Spawning: 2+1

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Build 2:

Deadly Arts: 6
Restoration: 11+2
Channeling: 12+4
Spawning: 2+1

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I like both so far, and they both have their advantages. I think the trickiest part is timing AP as I haven't used it super extensively. I am sure I can get the hang of it. Soul Twisting is like AP lite for me. Pretty much instant cast one of my spirits, instant recharge it, and drop it again with out having to "manage" it like I do with AP. This does allow me to keep an eye on my Ele and Ranger heroes if I need to micro them.

Surprisingly, with both builds I am doing much better on energy. I think that more than anything it is due to the consolidation of points into Resto making MB&S that much more efficient so I don't have to spam it nearly as often as I do for a 'fast' heal.

Yeah, I know my Monk hero is probably not the strongest... but that is because I am waiting for Razah! Mainly because I already have many Resto Rit skills and didn't want to spend the time (but mainly the money(I am very poor, but aren't we all?)) on building one out. Of course, as long as it takes to get him, I probably should invest in a decent Heal/Prot Monk. *sigh*

Thanks again for all the info everyone. I'll update as I play with it more.
-DR

EDIT: Cosmic Error - I looked at your build (in the AP on a Rit thread I assume) after I posted my thread, and it was just too spirit heavy for my tastes. Is it working well for you though?