What is Anet planning to do?

Devine [TIGO]

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hey peeps

just a question as i have got bored of gw over the past while i have played for over 24 months now and have done most of the game and by that i mean all the possible titles (excluding excteme grinding ones). and feel the game is now to boring with nothing new to to.

I keep hearing different times when gw2 will be released so my question is really, what does anet plan to do to keep the 5 million players it has established? coz if its the end of the year b4 its relesed or even next year i really dont think anet will retian these players with no new content, special weekends will not cut it im afraid. i am in what used to be one of the finest PvE alliances there ever was [TIG] and even that has now suffered due to this "Boredom" that has swept the land

your opinions?

pumpkin pie

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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make cross-program quests?

something in GW2 you have to go back to gw 1 to do in order to progress in GW2






runs away

tmakinen

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devine [TIGO]
what does anet plan to do to keep the 5 million players it has established?
Um, there are maybe 5 million copies sold but usually the same player has bought several (proph+factions+NF+GW:EN) and the resident population has never been anywhere near 5 million ...

Then, to answer your question: not much anything. GW is not pay-to-play, and since you've already given them all the money they'll get from you before GW2 there's little incentive to keep you occupied with the game all the way until then.

Arduin

Arduin

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Anet won't update GW1 with anything big, that's for sure, being them busy with GW2 and all.

If you are truly bored, just play a different game and check back when GW2 goes live, or check the update notes and weekend events from time to time for anything that might interest you PvE-wise.

Oukanna

Oukanna

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Join Date: Apr 2007

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I think, they don't plan do to anything for us in gw1 (like a new campaign, or new areas) It's simply going to be weekend events....title grinding......yeah thats it xDD

Uless they have a couple new area up their sleeve to put in, to keep us occupied, Though the chances of that are slim.
However a while back i saw this video of someone walking around Anet (gw) and they said they had a secret going on in a certain room and they couldnt go in it. I never found out what that secret was lols. There is a 10% it is for gw1, but who knows i can only speculate i guess.

Luminarus

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No new campaigns, no new expansions... maybe new weapons but I think with the sudden recent influx of weapons (deldrimor, and daw winners) that there isnt much more coming apart from title grind.

If you're sick of pve, try and join in some pvp. Can be fun, challenging etc, or just leave and come back for gw2. As soon as gw2 was announced, it was pretty much guaranteed that all major changes had finished.

Yichi

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Anet isn't planning to do anything for your boredom. Sorry to break it to ya.

miskav

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None

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Complete what you want, and quit till gw2 :P That's what's anet wants you to do

lilraceangel3

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the whole point of the "grinding" titles is to make your GW2 char even better...thats the best reason I have for playing right now.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

They'll add title specific quests, and put l33t items at the end.

Discuss.

Zahr Dalsk

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2007

Canada

They should have just gone through with Utopia IMO.

I MP I

I MP I

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Anet won't do nothing except add more titles and shiny new tonics/weapons. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another chapter or expansion. Get a new game imo.

Fril Estelin

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Join Date: Jan 2007

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I think that they have a cunning plan ...

(Who was expecting an MMO like GW before it was created?)

quickmonty

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilraceangel3
the whole point of the "grinding" titles is to make your GW2 char even better...thats the best reason I have for playing right now.
I'm afraid you are in for a big disappointment. Nothing in GW will make your chracter better in GW2. It's all cosmetic.

Dylananimus

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Hmmm, I gotta say I don't understand all these people who seem so worried about Anet retaining the player base...for an entirely new game.

You do realise that when it comes out, a lot of people picking it up are probably going to be people who didn't actually even play GW1 right?

And really, Anet don't want to keep you tied to GW1 anymore than you are. They WANT to have you get bored of it so you run out and buy GW2 as soon as it's out

Yeah, they still have to show us that they're invested in the player base by keeping us happy, or a few people will drop away and not get GW2 if they're unhappy with the treatment they've had in the game. But yunno what...I think the majority of players (especially the very casual players who don't even go on forums - yes they're out there), aren't so fussed about the tiny details of the running of the game. They don't spend all day QQing about some nerf or change...they just get on and play for a bit of fun.

I think GW2 will do pretty well, despite the wait After all, it's not just us lot that are gonna play it.

Breakfast Mc Rit

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
I'm afraid you are in for a big disappointment. Nothing in GW will make your chracter better in GW2. It's all cosmetic.
Not trying to rag on you, but do you have anything official to back that up?

miskav

miskav

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Breakfast, not that there would be cosmetic advantages, but it was stated that items in your HoM Would give you NO advantage over a normal starting player.

Aera Lure

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit
Not trying to rag on you, but do you have anything official to back that up?
Its been stated officially many times that no gains from HoM will offer any advantages at all over someone who never did them. Think collector's edition rewards and the like for HoM rewards in GW2.

quickmonty

quickmonty

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Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit
Not trying to rag on you, but do you have anything official to back that up?
Links? No.

But I know I've read, several times, that NOTHING in GW will give you any advantage in GW2 over other players. Of course, we've been mislead before.

Breakfast Mc Rit

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Ahh, thanks guys. I guess I wont be too worried over grinding out title after title and filling up my HoM in time now!

Aera Lure

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Breakfast Mc Rit
Ahh, thanks guys. I guess I wont be too worried over grinding out title after title and filling up my HoM in time now!
Yeah. There really isnt any point imho. Such a waste of time to specifically try to do something for GW2. Just work on titles you like.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

What will they do? Probably nothing. You've bought the game, and that's it. It's not an MMO that you're constantly paying for, you've already been given all of the content. If you're bored, then that's natural. That's how most games are, Guild Wars is no different.

BLOODGOAT

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You guys are actually all wrong.

In fact, what ANet plans to do is soon they will announce a release date and then change it quite a few times (~50) to make sure the quota for BAWWWWWWW threads on GWG is met.

Plus it will keep your on your toes and you'll always come back for more.
It's failproof.

Eddie Frenzy Spam

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Well if you've done everything in PvE there's only one thing really left to do and it's PvP.

I got bored of GW PvE well before i'd got any of pve titles, and PvP really picked up my interest in the game, in my opinion, if you haven't done any PvP you're missing out on the best part of the game.

Kakumei

Kakumei

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

The problem is that you're thinking of GW as a typical MMO that you can "stop paying for" and "quit". It's not. Would you "quit" Super Mario 64?

I beat Super Mario 64. It was fun, but then I did everything there was to do, and played another game instead, but occasionally I'll go back to Mario because it's fun to replay through it on the occasion.

I hope you're getting this analogy.

BLOODGOAT

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Quote:
Originally Posted by eddie the reaper
Well if you've done everything in PvE there's only one thing really left to do and it's PvP.

I got bored of GW PvE well before i'd got any of pve titles, and PvP really picked up my interest in the game, in my opinion, if you haven't done any PvP you're missing out on the best part of the game.
And in my opinion, if don't have tiger emote already, good luck getting into any team.

Oh, wait a second, MY BAD! That's not an opinion.

Mister_Smiley

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Nothing, thats as simple as it comes. Well have events and weekends, mabey new items here and there, changes as well, like the new pvp/pve system. Thats about it. Then again who knows what they have laying around, just look at the Deldrimor items, been laying around for a year and finaly added in. So there could be things hidden that there just waiting for the right time. But then again i seam to be wrong sometimes. As for the HOM, no one really knows what it will do got GW2, we know that it won't give anyone an advantage in GW2, but from what i herd(can't remember where)when you walk out of the hall you will look badass.

BLOODGOAT

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
The problem is that you're thinking of GW as a typical MMO that you can "stop paying for" and "quit". It's not. Would you "quit" Super Mario 64?

I beat Super Mario 64. It was fun, but then I did everything there was to do, and played another game instead, but occasionally I'll go back to Mario because it's fun to replay through it on the occasion.

I hope you're getting this analogy.
It'll go completely overlooked because the essence of MMOs has a vice grip on a lot of people. Thats why they say they will "quit" specifically instead of "stop playing for a little while". As soon as some people pick up again, they just fall back into their MMO-junkie habits. Hell, I've found some RPGs to be the most droning activity I've ever participated in, but I still couldn't put it down because it just had that oh-so-warm, reassuring GOTTA-GET-EXP-AND-LEVEL-LOL hold on me.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
And in my opinion, if don't have tiger emote already, good luck getting into any team.

Oh, wait a second, MY BAD! That's not an opinion.
You could say the same of PvE and Norn rank : (

BLOODGOAT

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
You could say the same of PvE and Norn rank : (
Not if you're a monk or run H/H which is also quite easy.

HA groups still don't take monks without rank just because they are monks, and you can't take H/H into HA either. While I understand the point you're trying to make, it's still infinitely easier to up your Norn rank from scratch that it is to do the same with your Fame.

Alex the Great

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alright dude, if you finished every title, and all the games content, you've gotten your moneys worth by far. It's not Anets job to constantly entertain those who play way to much. Get over it.


O, and try some Pvp? Something tells me you don't have max Champion title.

StormDragonZ

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Quote:
What is Anet planning to do?
Make us grind till GW2 comes out. That wasn't too difficult to answer.

Real Response: They, most likely, expect us to "slightly abandon" GW1 when GW2 comes out and we get our happy little gifts for filling that Hall of Monuments.

In some way... some of the quests in GW2 will mention or bring out a reminiscence of what GW1 was... so that if you're heavy into story or the actual plot of a game, you can find out or remember... but then again, just using the wiki could easily explain.

Then again... do you think they even know?

Chasing Squirrels

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Join Date: Jan 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilraceangel3
the whole point of the "grinding" titles is to make your GW2 char even better...thats the best reason I have for playing right now.
Grinding for these titles does not advance your character.

Clone

Clone

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ntherblast
Grinding for these titles does not advance your character.
Proof? It has been said that the Hall of Monuments will unlock things in GW2. It hasn't been said exactly what it will unlock. And, with the title linked skills, the days of skill > time spent are long gone. Guild Wars is now, and probably forevermore about the grind. I have no faith that GW2 will bring the series back to its roots.

HuntMaster Avatar

HuntMaster Avatar

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With all honesty I think anet plans to ignore,frustrate and nerf players until they either A, stop playing gw until gw2, or B, stop playing gw completely and not even buy gw2. Their support practices and updates do not help keep fans happy. GW2 may be filled with the same problems which makes it pointless to buy.

I for one am looking at ncsoft/anet as I do with Wotc, GW2 with 4e. They don't wanna fix the current product so they scrap it to make a new one. What happens when that product fails? The consumers end up spending even more money on a game with a very short lifespan.

Diablo2 LOD has had almost a decade of a lifespan and is still played by thousands, maybe millions off and on. GW1's lifespan is hard pressed to measure up.

D2LOD and GW1 share a concept of grinding, GW is titles and D2 is items. Both require a lot of time to get all the titles or items you want. But d2 items have a use, most titles are useless, only to be looked at.

It all breaks down to what you enjoy, Grinding a title for a few months can bring you joy when you finally achieve max title and get to stand in town spreading your uberness (as i hear and often see) and in d2 you find joy when that high rune finally drops or you get a spiders or Coa from a boss drop.

I don't think gw is going to improve much, we can only look forward to minor updates for balance purposes.

One thing we are looking forward to is gw2 beta test, I just hope there is enough room for all the people who want to be included in beta.

I Can Cure Cancer

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Try to achieve max champ title or max hero. Those will take you awhile trust me.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT
While I understand the point you're trying to make, it's still infinitely easier to up your Norn rank from scratch that it is to do the same with your Fame.
My point was that elitism exists on both sides, and you don't need fame to be successful in PvP (nor Norn Rank to be good in PvE). You just have to find an accepting and nice guild who are willing to take you through the ropes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clone
Proof? It has been said that the Hall of Monuments will unlock things in GW2. It hasn't been said exactly what it will unlock.
But it has been stated that what you will unlock will not give you an advantage in GW2.

Chokey

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Join Date: Aug 2007

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I'd be happy if ANet just told us what the big unused area in the N/E of the prophecies map is. Would be fun to have some form of elite area on that funky island.

IlikeGW

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Join Date: Aug 2005

They're not planning anything big. Just go to Add/Remove Programs>Uninstall Guild Wars. Do something else with your time.

Horus

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they don't really care if "veterans" leave, they care if newbies come Newbies are their income of money, so they would go in negative numbers in game updates, since newbies who will buy new GW account won't care about it, only ppl that already spent cash on it.

Since there will be no more expansions/campaigns, i think it's pretty much it for "veterans"