Trading is ruining guild wars?

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

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Since farming is becoming worse and worse, people have gone to selling and buying for money. A regular farmer may make 20k an hour, but a trader may get 20 ectos an hour. Which of these people work harder to get this money? The average farmer now has to work harder and harder for money well a trader gets rich in a few days. With the amount of rich people increasing because of trading, the farmers have begun to become poorer because the price of items has increased because the wealth of traders is increasing. Cool items have begun to cost even more than obsidian armor or chaos gloves. Did the creators of guild wars intend for this to happen? Guild wars is about going off on a grand adventure with friends and ally's to get better and better. This is getting ruined by traders. Now, somepeople may think im an idiot for saying this or that im completely wrong, but i stick by my opinion. Ok, my suggestion is to make all rare materials untradable so they cannot be used as currency. This means you can only buy from a rare material trader or farm them yourself

pfaile

pfaile

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Orlando

Divine Order of Heroes

P/R

where is the suggestion, is this just a rant?

Nice too edit in a suggestion to make me look like a fool.

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

1. Don't double post.
2. If anything ruined Guild Wars in the first place, it's farming and grinding. Trading is a legit and encouraged way for trading in any MMORPG.
3. Neither trading or farming has little to do with "going off on a grand adventure with friends and ally's to get better and better."
4. No one's stopping farmers from engaging 'power trading' to make more money.

You're basically suggesting that we should make it so that farming would be the only real possible way to obtain Ectos for Obsidian armor. Sorry, that sounds somewhat ridiculous to me.

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

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Post this in riverside it's more of a rant than anything. Btw that idea is simply terrible. /notsigned

skervy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

lol thats how all games work dont cry cause you dont know how to hustle

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

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Untradeable materials? That's just bizarre.

I also don't buy your argument that "cool items have begun to cost more" when the prices of most high-end items are going down, not up.

Farming is much easier than trading. If you don't believe me, go try it for a few hours.

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

anybody that trades to get money obviously doesnt like the idea. But why have farming and grinding if you can just trade, might aswell remove dungeons and uw/fow.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Every MMORPG has power traders. Deal with it. Horrible idea, /notsigned.

skervy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

and ya the prices thing your totally wrong everything is dropping besides the ultra rare minis that arent multiplying in mass numbers cause of farmers

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

Well suggestion is make rare materials non tradable. That would kind of even up the money making between trading and farming.

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Hall of Monuments

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Worst idea of the week.

If rare materials were untradeable, than what would be used for trades over 100k?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
Worst idea of the week.

If rare materials were untradeable, than what would be used for trades over 100k?
He thinks trading is ruining Guild Wars, I don't think he really cares.

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

Shouldnt even be trades over 100k. If there was wouldnt you think anet would make you be able to hold 1000k or even more in backpack?

Randvek

Randvek

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
Shouldnt even be trades over 100k. If there was wouldnt you think anet would make you be able to hold 1000k or even more in backpack?
So, so clueless. Gee, I can sell this for 100k, or go on to eBay and make $50 off of it. What to do?

And how about if I counter with this: "there should be trades over 100k. If there wasn't, wouldn't you think anet would make you not able to trade materials?"

I Can Cure Cancer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Dark Empire [DE]

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/Closethread imo the OP doesn't know a thing about GW.

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

hmm, didnt they say you get band for doing that?

i Know about the acually game, not about the game created in it( in other words trading)

Posts Merged by Celestial Beaver: Please use the button rather than double posting next time.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

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outta curiosity if its so easy to make 20 ectos in a hour then why dont you just shut up and do it?

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

not a big fan of scamming people out of money. id rather give 20k to someone than take it from them

Yosh

Yosh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

California

Zero Mercy

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Ya. Trading is horrible. So is interaction. You know all those "people" running around? Ruining the game I say.

/signed

BigT

BigT

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2007

Emmisaries of Hard Mode

W/Mo

So wait, your saying that the people who farm for high end items arent going to be able to afford other high end items because the price is going up (which is isnt) on the items that they themselves farm and are trying to sell? Wow that confused the heck outa me just typing it out, i cant immagine what it must be like to actualy think like that...

Megadeth the monk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

mdel

Mo/

Not the trading thats bad, but more the part where half of people trading are getting scammed out of money. and i also dunno much about price of things since i dont trade so ya.

Cyb3r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

AFO

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sigh i'll snipe the topic mods could you close before this ends in a flamefest? tyvm Cyb3r

poasiods

poasiods

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Join Date: Apr 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
might aswell remove dungeons and uw/fow.
Well, some people actually like venturing through dungeons without farming.

Dooglash Sontoosh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2008

Heroic Dragons [HERO]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
not a big fan of scamming people out of money. id rather give 20k to someone than take it from them
Okay, my ign is Dooglash Sontoosh, I'm on at all hours of the day, I take all forms of payment, but prefer gw gold.
Oh, and on your idea, isnt part of the game to farm and sell for money, or why else would anet have it?

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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Me thinks OP doesnt know prices and sold an eternal blade for 20k or something.

kerpall

kerpall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

I live in an Igloo in southern BC, neer US border.

The Pig Pen [PIGZ] & We Aint All [NロロB]

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Trading is bad. Poor noobs like me who only make 2k an hour farming (cus we are dip$hits) are getting scammed by power traders. Us farmers should get crystallines and ecto's every run to even it up!

/signed !

Shiro's Prophet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Crux]

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The expensive l33t weaps are going down. I remember getting my torment scythe a couple months back for 100k+35e. Now they're around 100k+10e. ya got it backwards lol

Icy The Mage

Icy The Mage

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Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada

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lmao this is the most hilarious topic I've ever seen in the history of my forum life, and not just GuildWarsGuru, I'm talking about everywhere.

Koricen

Koricen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

[LoA]

This would solve nothing. People would just use different items as currency. What if you like to play in the UW? Not to farms of course, god forbid, but because you like those big adventures with your friend. You get an ecto drop, but have no use for it. What do you do? Well, can't sell it or give it to a friend even if they needed it, guess you have to sell it to the trader for a pitiful amount.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
anybody that trades to get money obviously doesnt like the idea. But why have farming and grinding if you can just trade, might aswell remove dungeons and uw/fow.
Because farming and grinding is just as repetitive and boring as powertrading, might as well have one that makes good money.

arsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2007

N/

Why anyone would want to buy anything from another player in this game is completely beyond me.

DarkFlame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ascalon

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
Well suggestion is make rare materials non tradable. That would kind of even up the money making between trading and farming.
Armbraces/Lockpicks says hi.

Randvek

Randvek

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Rise From the Ashes [phnx]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame
Armbraces/Lockpicks says hi.
Lockpicks for currency would be funny.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
A regular farmer may make 20k an hour, but a trader may get 20 ectos an hour.
Traders don't work harder, they work smarter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Can Cure Cancer
/Closethread imo the OP doesn't know a thing about MMOs.
Fixed and signed.

Lawrence Chang

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

United States

[SOHE]

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might as well make gw a singleplayer game... (well.. to some extent, it really is)

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
im an idiot for saying this and im completely wrong, but i stick by my opinion.
That's about all I can agree with, some people farm and are happy with the 15k/h they get, others think a little and earn 100k/h. No one is stopping you from trading, you're choosing not to and are trying to stop those that already trade.

wyrd

wyrd

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2008

Halo

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Prices are going down as time goes by more people are getting better and farther in the game gaining many items for themselves or the ability to trade for them. Theres a few super rich that keep a few items very costly because theres few of the items to go around except among other super rich but who cares either find the item you want get super rich and buy it or forget about it its just a graphic after all,in most cases nothing really extra beneficial about them.

Trade is great it allows people to buy/trade for things they dont want to spend hours on end trying to get and still may never get what they are trying to farm.
The demo version of Guild Wars blocks trade after paying well over a hundred dollars for the game I dont want to pay that much for the demo.

The main problem with trade is the spam on all chat channels I suggest anyone doing any excessive trading on any chat channel other than the trade channel be set to ignore (even guild and alliance after a warning)and definitely don't buy from them no matter how badly you want the item that just encourages more spam. Buy or sell the things you want from a good trader.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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You make Power Trading seem like something very easy, something anyone can do, yet dispicable because there isn't any 'hard work' involved.

Let me tell you, it isn't simple. You need to know your way around the high end items, prepare to take a risk when buying something expensive, hoping you can sell it for profit...if it was easy, everyone would be millionaires now.

But you already told us you don't know much about trading. Wouldn't you do some research about the subject, before bashing it and asking Anet to screw the players over who do invest their time in this feature?

/notsigned for utter laziness

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megadeth the monk
blah blah whine QQ
You do not need to trade or farm high amounts of money to play GW so no its not ruining it.


/notsigned to dumb suggestion

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/Notsigned.

Trading isn't ruining. Repetetive tasks with benefit is ruining.