The Worst GW experience

gasconron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

TOWN

E/Me

Been playing for a long while now and I was so excited when titles came out, I did the whole grinding thing till I reached 28 titles... with drunkard and party title to finish the boot. I also established a huge collection collecting all the rare or "rare-has-beens" Warrior Sets (tormented, zods, celes, gothic, destroyers, etc; too long to list) u can ever imagine since the establishment of GW that was equiped on his inventory and his heroes, and probably only the obsi blade and crystalline are the only 2 items not in my possesion, had an obi armor on and all the good stuff... yah on my good old title char: Hellios Rayearth - - > my total estimate of this characters worth about 9-12 million (pre-zaishen depreciation)

May 22, 2008 night time, I got an anonymous pm from someone I didn't knw claiming to know who hacked my account and took all my items, etc;

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After recieving this message, I did a whole background check on my account and this is what I found out.

Empty Char Slot of where my Title Char used to be
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1 of my Mules holding my title Chars excess elite armors
Mule Carrying Armor Set of Deleted Char.jpg

all items in my main inventory had been cleared: stack of e, rare/popular items for my other chars, gems, stacks of Spiked Eggnogs and the excess ectos on my ecto farmer, Lajoya Graceheart...

Probably most of you are saying... "this guy is either a duper or a gold buyer, serves you right... scum."

well, i hope that was the case, cuz i if that was indeed true, i wouldnt feel as shitty as i do now. i can earn about 30-40e a day on a modified UW run I made due to the "Terra Revolution" that occured. Everything I've accomplished was due to hard work.

anywhere from 6-14 ectos drop in a 1.25-1.5 hour run
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I wish I took a screenshot of my title char, when he was still "alive." I've already reported this incident to aNet, but I doubt anything can be done, since once a char is deleted..it cant be brought back.

I'm only doing this as a tribute to my title char, and my official "moving on from the game."

Share your experiences

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

...wow.. this is getting really bad. im sorry for your loss, and i hope all goes well for you

MarlinBackna

MarlinBackna

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

[TAM]

W/

Was original password the one he said, as in the last part of your email + 123? If that's so, you kind of had it coming. That is a really simple password that can easily be semi-brute forced. I am sorry for your loss, but I hope you understand now why you need to be secure on the Internet. Imagine if the all the work/money was real $. 0.o

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

So what exactly happened? You were playing on your alt and your main was hacked? Or what?

gasconron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

TOWN

E/Me

Eternal Blades, can be dropped or bought... 14 runs after....jpg
Ectos can be farmed to your heart's content...

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

Geez, that is horrible. Robbing someone I can understand, but I don't get how people can get their jollies off by deleting title characters like that.

My worst experience (helping a Leeroy guild member through several EotN quests) doesn't even begin to compare.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

man thats RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up sorry to hear it dude...

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Vanquished one area for 7 hours..

Trax Reborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Michigan

wgk

W/

no offence, but making a password like that is your fault for losing all of you stuff. did you have 2 accounts or something, 28 max titles in 3700 hours seems fast to me.

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1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

That account that messaged him was a trial account. The password still works(for the time being). So if the OP is saying the account that messaged him was his main with his title character, well then thats just not true.

But then again I didn't quite understand his original post, aside from his character was hacked and deleted.

Magikarp

Magikarp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2007

[HAWK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trax Reborn
no offence, but making a password like that is your fault for losing all of you stuff. did you have 2 accounts or something, 28 max titles in 3700 hours seems fast to me.
i know people who made 20+ in less than 4 months.

gasconron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

TOWN

E/Me

the email, the anonymous person pm'd me is not mine... she jst told me to go there, before she deletes it... probably something they made to balckmail me... im anot a yahoo user, i do have a gmail and hotmail account and no that was not my password... the email that was posted by the anonymous was fictitous

slowerpoke

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

You should also contact Gaile via her Wiki page.

1 up and 2 down

1 up and 2 down

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2007

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gasconron
the email, the anonymous person pm'd me is not mine... she jst told me to go there, before she deletes it... probably something they made to balckmail me... im anot a yahoo user, i do have a gmail and hotmail account and no that was not my password... the email that was posted by the anonymous was fictitous
Ok, I am glad that was clarified. Sorry I accused you of lying.

It's a shame this happened.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

I'm going to try not to be a jerk, but if that was your password, you were easy pickings.... EDIT: Already covered from above post. Ignore this.

Regardless, anyone losing a character or anything at all for someone else's amusement is complete GO RED ENGINE.

I am, however, skeptical about those screenshots. You traveled a good distance in a short amount of time of a chat log... something just doesn't seem right about that... but that's just me...

Mac Sidewinder

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2007

I'm still confused, what exactly happened? I take it you was on a different account then logged onto your hacked account to find this out? Did the person tell you how you were hacked?

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

don't tell people what mail account you have!!!

make 100 free email accounts use them.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

This update. The only thing really satisfying to me was the change to Ether Renewal in PVE....QQ

gasconron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

TOWN

E/Me

I am, however, skeptical about those screenshots. You traveled a good distance in a short amount of time of a chat log... something just doesn't seem right about that... but that's just me...[/QUOTE]

if you're talking about the ecto farm.. yes those were some of my screens cuz i tested out how many ectos I get every run, and took screens of the lucky runs, bad runs, average runs and some screens of a "jackpot mob."

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Tyla??? what are you talking about?

Aida

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2007

Reapers of the Doomed

A/

This sounds like the same thing that happened to me a couple years back when i first got guild wars.
Anet will not be able to help you recover ANY lost items or deleted chars. They will only be able to reset your password and send it to you after you have somehow given them a copy of your serial number by fax or other means. Sorry for your loss but all you can do is start again or quit.

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

@pumpkin... See last line of OP

My worst experience is having completely lost interest in GW since NF.

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

Seriously now, why are people trying to find out if he's lying about his statements? What's the benefit of making a thread and fabricating events that didn't actually happen? There is nothing to lose by being genuinely sorry for the guy without making retarded accusations even if you think this is fake for some reason.

So, is this Shiela Erinborough pretty much the guy who hacked your account? Please send this information to support for everyone's sake if you haven't already.

Sorry about your loss. Hope you can recover from this soon enough.

gasconron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

TOWN

E/Me

Looks like the hacker left some traces, as this string of messages was emailed to me by PlayNC soft.... yes... I am shocked myself, but this fictitious person pretended to be me and requested a password and all the info they needed on me... YES, the people who gave this hacker my account information was the developers of Guild Wars itself....

I did not contact PlayNC or GW at the said dates....yet they freely gave all the information THIS HACKER needed to infiltrate my account. I am extremely shocked and disappointed at this show of incompetency. If this is how EASY it is to hack someone's account, heck you can just target any of those people displaying their mini Kanaxai's in Kamadan, ask for PlayNC for their password and claim you forgot the password and all the necessary info... Everyone in the Guild Wars community should be notified of this incompetence on the part of Guild Wars Tech Support. You may be the next victim.

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Hello Guild Wars Account Support Team/PlayNC team,

I have been a victim of account hacking and I have already filed a complain under a different email:
[email protected]. Numerous items and a character worth 8-12 million, and I have spent on for a good 1 year, or 3700 + hours (in-game currency) was deleted. I was pm'd in Guild Wars by anonymous temporary accounts threatening and mocking me for the loss I had. People told me: "it happens, and nothing can be done about it." I was about to let this incident pass but now that this information has come to my attention I can't let it pass.

When I opened my email account, I found this message (consisting of back & forth interaction between the hacker & PlayNC) from PlayNC that was emailed to me. If I am not mistaken, from the looks of this message, PlayNC or Guildwars Account Support HANDED ALL MY ACCOUNT INFORMATION TO THIS HACKER ON A SILVER PLATTER... I want a DETAILED information and explanation from whoever is responsible for this, I want some form of apology, I want some form of compensation for what happened as it is clear that your agency/organization/team was to blame for releasing my information to this hacker. For you guys, this may just be a game and nothing serious, but for serious gamers like me, for me to be ROBBED (of inggame currency and items) and then your characters Deleted is SEVERELY FRUSTRATING and knowing that the people, who were supposed to protect you from hacking, account theft and fraud, be the MAIN accomplices to the crime REALLY REALLY REALLY PISSES me off...

"THE REAL" Ron Dale Gascon
Hellios Rayearth - - > IGN

PS... if you want to look at the specifics on this, and have an idea of how much I have lost, http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10291906... It must shock the whole Guild Wars community that the ones responsible for their accounts being hacked might be the organization itself.


Response (Ben) 05/22/2008 01:21 PM
Hi,

I have combined all information regarding your issue on this single support ticket. The Guild Wars Support Team will respond to this ticket to provide assistance.

If you need to update your ticket, please do so using the link at the top of this e-mail. This will ensure that your ticket receives the timeliest response. (I WAS ASLEEP and AWAY from GAME FROM 7am-10pm US EST 05/22/2008 and found that I was hacked during/between that time)

So that we may assist you with this issue, please reply back with the following information:

- What are the last 4 digits of the credit card you used to purchase your access key online?

Thank you for your continued patience and cooperation as we work to resolve this issue for you.

Ben
Guild Wars Account Support

Customer (Entered by Ben) 05/22/2008 01:21 PM

I requested a password reset about 3 days ago and would like to know how long will the process take? (No... I DID NOT REQUEST A PASSWORD RESET 3 Days AGO, I did however request a reset on my PLAYNC account as soon as I found out I was hacked, I reset my PlayNC, My GW Game Account and My email PASSWORD)

Response (George) 05/21/2008 12:14 AM
Greetings Ron,

I am escalating your ticket to a Senior Support Representative. We assure you that it is our sincerest intent to assist each customer in a timely manner. We thank you for your time and patience as we work to resolve this issue for you. Once we have reviewed your inquiry someone will be in contact with you as soon as possible.

Again, thanks for your time and patience as we work to resolve this issue for you.

Thanks,
<George>
The Guild Wars Support Team

Customer (Ron Dale Gascon) 05/21/2008 12:10 AM
I no longer have those keys for I threw them away thinking I will no longer need them. Is there any other way to verify that I am me?

Response (Shane) 05/21/2008 12:08 AM
Hi Ron,

Thank you for updating us on this issue.

The access keys are very important and are used to assist us in locating the account as well as to verify you as the owner of the game account. Please try to the best of your ability to attempt to locate this information so that we may further assist you with your account issue.

I do sincerely apologize for any inconvenience or frustration this request may cause. If you find your 25-digit access key(s) please let us know.

Thanks,

Shane
Guild Wars Account Support

Customer (Ron Dale Gascon) 05/21/2008 12:03 AM
Name: Rondale Gascon
Address:
Date of Birth:
Serial Code/Access Keys: I no longer have it due I threw the codes away, not knowing I would need it in the future. Also, in order for other people to use it to create a Guild Wars Account.
Unique Account ID: I do not know for the reason that I deleted the email long time ago and there is no way of me of knowing, unless I get another email from my email address to confirm.

Response (George) 05/20/2008 09:36 PM
Hi Ron Dale,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Account Support.

The first step that we'll take in assisting you with your issue is verifying some information about your account. If you could please provide the following information, it would be very helpful:

-- What first and last name did you use when you created the account?
-- What physical address did you use when you created the account?
-- What date of birth did you use when you created the account?
-- What are all the retail access keys currently registered to your Guild Wars game account? (Please include the retail access keys from each campaign.)
-- What is the e-mail address currently associated with your Guild Wars game account? (If you are unsure, please provide all possible e-mail addresses.)

We appreciate your patience as we work to resolve this issue for you.

Thanks,
George
Guild Wars Account Support

Floski

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2007

Rank Three Plus Pug [deer]

W/

Uhh... did the guy answer all those questions they asked him correctly? About the physical address, the credit card, and others? Because then wow, you should be less worried about GW and more worried about someone stealing your identity and screwing with real parts of your life.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

so this officially has become a criminal case. pretending to be someone else online .... and inflicting harm /stealing the person's property, identity theft?

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Oh yeah... CSI is all over this one. :/

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

I was confused as shit trying to read that string, but just figured out that it goes upwards from the bottom.

I'm not sure if you can put anything on Anet. I mean, what happened to you clearly sucks, but there probably isn't much Anet can do if the guy gave them pretty much all the private information they could ever ask for. You should still push for a compensation though although I hear their policy doesn't necessarily bend that way.

I initially though he must have had a keylogger but it's strange that he didn't simply type in your password to steal the account and instead went through all that trouble instead. You should really look into this. Looking for a keylogger program in your system would be the best idea, imo.

~ Dan ~

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

D/

So, not only has Anet abandoned GW1 content wise... but now they've abandoned the security?

This is pretty ridiculous now.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
Oh yeah... CSI is all over this one. :/
well, that was a question mark and was a question, sarcasm at the wrong place at the wrong time rofl.

I also found the answer, it can be a criminal case under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

Longasc

Longasc

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

I cannot really follow how this happened.

As people already said, they ask a lot of shit not even the real account owner knows immediately, like the last 4 digits of the credit card or the key you created GW with.

I wonder how this guy managed to pretend to be you and get all your account info from support.


I think you should contact Gaile on the Wiki, but I am afraid your char is gone forever regardless of the result!


BTW: Regarding Ecto-Farming, you did not use this ECTO-BOT program that was sold on some "player service" sites and ebay, didn't you? Then you can look for a keylogger there.

If you are a honest person, I apologize.
Often people just leave out the dirty things they did that are the simple explanation of strange account hacks that nobody can explain how they cold have happened.

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

My worst GW experience was when Mitch called me bad :|

aapo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by gasconron
But the times I've spent with you, Hellios Rayearth, will never be replaced...
- the classes I cut
- the days I called in sick to grind your vanquisher, guardian and cartographer
- the times you made me and my girlfriend fight over you
- the times you made my parents scold me for bad semestral grades
- I would hope that people would finally realize this. Your thousands of hours of work can be both done and undone with a single click of mouse. They have no value in objective sense.

Sorry for your loss.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Hopefully support can help.