How can i improve this?

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

23 May 2008 at 20:17 - 1

Hi guys=)

I have Prophecies and EOTN Only and came up with the following;

Ogden M/E [word of healing] [reversal of fortune] [shielding hands] [aegis] [dwaynas kiss] [cure hex] [spotless soul] [glyph of lesser energy]

Healing prayers -12 protection prayers 12

Vekk E/R [ether renewal] [fire attunement] [aura of restoration] [rodgort's invocation] [mark of rodgort] [fireball] [searing heat] [meteor shower]

Fire magic -12 Energy storage - 12

Any improvements i can make guys?? Thank you all in advance

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

23 May 2008 at 20:24 - 2

For Ogden, I'd switch out [Divine Healing] for [Shield of Absorption] and [Protective spirit] for [shielding hands]. Make sure you manually select your glyph and Aegis, heroes aren't too bright with that combo.

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

23 May 2008 at 20:26 - 3

It depends, if it's Hardmode, I'd definatly keep [Protective Spirit], for NM though, I'd go with [Shielding Hands].

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

23 May 2008 at 20:28 - 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by miskav
It depends, if it's Hardmode, I'd definatly keep [Protective Spirit], for NM though, I'd go with [Shielding Hands]. Yeah, it's just another skill I'd manually select (like for a pre-prot) or else you'll see him waste that 10 energy on a minion...

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

23 May 2008 at 20:29 - 5

The dual attune needs utility.

Put in Ward Against Melee at 9-10 spec!

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

UK

W/

23 May 2008 at 20:31 - 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
For Ogden, I'd switch out [Divine Healing] for [Shield of Absorption] and [Protective spirit] for [shielding hands]. Make sure you manually select your glyph and Aegis, heroes aren't too bright with that combo.
I dont have NF =(

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

23 May 2008 at 20:34 - 7

SH is core if you are doing NM only.

Might want to consider [Reversal of Fortune] but again, they are spamtastic with it...

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

23 May 2008 at 20:34 - 8

Hmm... give him [Reversal of Fortune] instead of [Divine Healing] Then?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

23 May 2008 at 20:36 - 9

Using RoF on a hero is asking for /fail.

Well, a hero that doesn't have stupid energy management anyway.

Same goes for PSpirit, but I still run it because I don't have to micro it as much I've found.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

23 May 2008 at 20:39 - 10

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Using RoF on a hero is asking for /fail. it's still better than [divine healing]....

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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23 May 2008 at 20:57 - 11

if rof is fail then what can i use instead of dh

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

23 May 2008 at 21:29 - 12

RoF is effective enough imo, but it's up to you =/

beserk

Krytan Explorer

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23 May 2008 at 22:12 - 13

ok guys ive updated with the help of your views...what do you think?

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

23 May 2008 at 22:24 - 14

throw spotless in the monk

Axel Zinfandel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Northeastern Ohio

LaZy

P/W

23 May 2008 at 22:36 - 15

At this point, I'd suggest you using Ether Renewal instead of Elemental Attunement, because it's basically the shit.

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

UK

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23 May 2008 at 22:44 - 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
At this point, I'd suggest you using Ether Renewal instead of Elemental Attunement, because it's basically the shit. didnt notice that, made the change.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

23 May 2008 at 23:20 - 17

Maybe switch out [Immolate] for [Mark of Rodgort]?

Definitely switch [mend condition] for [Spotless Soul].

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

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23 May 2008 at 23:47 - 18

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Maybe switch out [Immolate] for [Mark of Rodgort]?

Definitely switch [mend condition] for [Spotless Soul].
That actually works out alot better thanks, I updated accordingly.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

24 May 2008 at 00:19 - 19

Question, why do you have [power drain] on a monk?
For them to use that, they would have to be set on defend which can cause them to attack and draw aggro. I'd much rather have them use [glyph of lesser energy] and remain on flee.

EDIT: Just realized, [Searing Heat] causes scatter. See how well your hero maintains their energy level and replace it with [Energy Blast]. (at least 75 energy for maximum effect)

obsidian ectoplasm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

24 May 2008 at 00:29 - 20

Quote:
Originally Posted by miskav
RoF is effective enough imo, but it's up to you =/ Yeah i find RoF pretty good

beserk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

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24 May 2008 at 02:24 - 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
Question, why do you have [power drain] on a monk?
For them to use that, they would have to be set on defend which can cause them to attack and draw aggro. I'd much rather have them use [glyph of lesser energy] and remain on flee.

EDIT: Just realized, [Searing Heat] causes scatter. See how well your hero maintains their energy level and replace it with [Energy Blast]. (at least 75 energy for maximum effect) Updated my monks build accordingly but as for my ele, i feel thst SH is better than EB as it does AOE.

Thanks for all the help guys.

beserk

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24 May 2008 at 20:28 - 22

really seen the difference in my build now ^^ thank you all for the feedback again!

mistokibbles

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2008

N/A

26 May 2008 at 02:42 - 23

You might to replace Ether Renewal with Ele Attunement or a fire elite like Mind Blast. Aura of Restoration can be replaced with Glyph of Lesser Energy or glyph of elemental power. GoLE can help with energy. Even if the ele has dual attunements, if they don't finish casting a spell they'll lose the energy.

Skyros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

E/

26 May 2008 at 02:55 - 24

I was under the impression that monster AI selected targets based on maxed health of each member in the party. So it wouldn't matter if they were on defend or flee.

Also, the interrupts on a monk provides a 2 fold bonus for your monk hero:

1) a form of nrgy management
2) interupt pressure against enemy mobs

I used GoLE with my heroes with mixed results... I just find they dont use glyph with the more expensive skills on their bars such as Prot Spirit or Aegis. At least with Mesmer interrupts, you can guareentee they use on recharge.

Correct me if im wrong about the AI, though.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

26 May 2008 at 05:14 - 25

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyros
I was under the impression that monster AI selected targets based on maxed health of each member in the party. So it wouldn't matter if they were on defend or flee.

Also, the interrupts on a monk provides a 2 fold bonus for your monk hero:

1) a form of nrgy management
2) interupt pressure against enemy mobs

I used GoLE with my heroes with mixed results... I just find they dont use glyph with the more expensive skills on their bars such as Prot Spirit or Aegis. At least with Mesmer interrupts, you can guareentee they use on recharge.

Correct me if im wrong about the AI, though. Not sure about the first part since aggro is still something that confuses me outside of a terratank situation but for the part about a monk using interrupt, I noticed they would use it in the beginning of a fight rather than later, making a waste of any possible energy gain.