Remove the (PVP / PVE ) tags and messages.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

I think we know when we're in a PvP or PvE area, so why the tags? All it does it is bug me.

Then there's the messages saying the skills have been altered to the PvP version. Is that really necessary? I really do know when I'm entering a PvP area.

Aaand the there's the status icon in the corner of my screen. I think that, if I enter a PvP area, I know I'm in a PvP area. Another useless icon in my screen.

The whole dividing of PvP/PvE was a bad idea to begin with, but bugging all the players with it the pointless icons/messages etc is over the top.

/remove them plx

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

i agree that the little icon on the enchant/hex bar is overkill, but the (PVP) next to the skill is useful because you can differentiate them from a pve skill... i mean it jogs my memory every time i see it.

and if little (PVP) signs popping up when you get hit is annoying you... well... it just seems like whining. i think the real reason behind them popping up is because in PvE the skills are normal and do not have (PvE) next to them, and appear as normal skills.

armed with this info, i would like to see you try to and convince anet to switch it so PvP is the regular and in PvE you get big (PvE) signs and messages.

also the update in general was a good idea. it will help the balances because they can be harsher, faster, and without consequences. what exactly are the downsides? because i dont see any.

Boogz

Boogz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2008

Variable Speed Farmers[VsF]

Mo/

I agree that t he icon is useless, I'd also like to remove the (PvP) from skills, and instead of that just show messages on the chat like "Light of Deliverance has been changed into PvP/PvE version" or something like this.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

The icon is pure junk, + It's ugly :3 remove pl0x.

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

Not everyone is as smart as you. What about newer players who just got to RA for the first time? Don't they have the right to know that their skills are going to be different? Shouldn't there be something to show them what is different?

I agree with all of it, including the ugly icon in your effects monitor (it's not like it's there while you're playing, so what harm does it really cause?).

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

No.

/NOT SIGNED

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).

NYC Elite

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aera
I think we know when we're in a PvP or PvE area, so why the tags? All it does it is bug me.

Then there's the messages saying the skills have been altered to the PvP version. Is that really necessary? I really do know when I'm entering a PvP area.

Aaand the there's the status icon in the corner of my screen. I think that, if I enter a PvP area, I know I'm in a PvP area. Another useless icon in my screen.

The whole dividing of PvP/PvE was a bad idea to begin with, but bugging all the players with it the pointless icons/messages etc is over the top.

/remove them plx
I can differentiate too. But 90% of people can't and continue to bring with Shadow Form farmers into PvE after it's been nerfed. It's not a big deal, just cope with it. Less QQ moar pew pew.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
+1 we have a winner.

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
First thing I was gonna suggest when I saw this thread but I see I have been beaten to it

/Signed for toggle

crunch666

crunch666

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
This

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NYC Elite

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
Yeah, bingo.

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

It seemed pretty logical to me that they use the status icon as the way to toggle the pvp skills.

/notsigned, just ignore it?

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

How would an icon... have anything to do with a toggle?
Something server sided should never rely on a visual aspect that's on the player's behalf.
Because if that's the case, what if you alter that with texmod? you get pve skills in pvp? zomg!.
Either way, you make no sense.

oliverrr1989

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

Lore of Mythos [Myth]

D/

i think dat the icon is gud for nu players hu might not know about the diference betwen PvE and PvP skillz

darkknightkain

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

P/W

/notsigned

The PvP icon and the (PvP) tag at the skill description are the best indicator there is.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Cyber,,,,,,,,hw can you ignore a message showing up saying "X skill has changed to a PvP skill"?

/Signed for toggle.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

/Signed for being able to toggle (Didn't sign yet :3).

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

/signed for getting rid of the announcements, i dont need to see how my skills or hero skills everytime i go to gh or somewhere ty.

Nude Nira

Nude Nira

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2008

inside a tanning bed

It's Raining Fame Hallelujah 【傘回傘】

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
Can we close the thread now?

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aera
The whole dividing of PvP/PvE was a bad idea to begin with
how is this a bad idea??? Its not.
This makes both sides happy.
PvP players can get there skills balanced without having 1000 posts on guru saying that they nerfed there farming/running/w/e builds.
It was one of the best updates theyve done.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
/signed

street peddler

street peddler

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2007

grey out the (PvP) like the attribute is greyed out.

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

the "effect" is retarded and shouldnt have to be displayed i only need the text prompt that says your skills have been updated to pvp standers or something like that

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

It's to help all the people who don't follow game updates, durr. Someone logs in, goes to RA with his build, and *whoops* some of his skills aren't working the way they should. The tags at least give them a clue as to why this is happening.

Hailey Anne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
It's to help all the people who don't follow game updates, durr. Someone logs in, goes to RA with his build, and *whoops* some of his skills aren't working the way they should. The tags at least give them a clue as to why this is happening.
first time you log in fine but we dont need this every time we load into a PvP area.

when I play my derv in RA every single time it tells my Mystic Sweep has been updated. Makes me look at it every time just to see if they changed it again. Rather annoying.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
It's to help all the people who don't follow game updates, durr. Someone logs in, goes to RA with his build, and *whoops* some of his skills aren't working the way they should. The tags at least give them a clue as to why this is happening.
How would this update be any different to somebody who doesn't pay attention to the update notes? You don't get a note saying "this skill has been changed" after every skill balance.

Anyway /signed. At least get rid of "repeat" messages. Running SABway when I came into my guild hall, I don't need to see that "Olias' Death Pact Signet has been changed to the PvP version" immidately followed by "Livia's Death Pact Signet has been changed to the PvP version."

Courage!

Courage!

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

Australia

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Add a toggle option please (as after all UI-updates).
problem solved

wanmoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

In the land of Do Not Disturb

Wind Riders

R/

/signed for toggle option

CyberMesh0

CyberMesh0

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Charter Vanguard [CV]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Cyber,,,,,,,,hw can you ignore a message showing up saying "X skill has changed to a PvP skill"?

/Signed for toggle.
I wasn't referring to that. And, the only time I ever see that message is on a character that hasn't seen it before. In any case, I'd agree that a message like that should only appear once for the people that shun the update notes.