Lockpick Retention Rates
gt_white_gold
Has anyone noticed a reduced retention rate during this weekend? I have been around 20% retention rate while it is generally around the advertised 55% on 600g chests. I am mostly farming secret lair in NM.
Esprit
It's all about the luck. You are opening more chests too so it might feel like your retention rate is lower now that you are opening more chests.
Zesbeer
yea i have lost about 4 lockpicks in a row. i was useing them during some ss/lb runs.
MoriaOrc
Anyone with lots of lockpick uses will tell you (and I guarantee you I'm only the first): Retention rates are dead on. If you are seeing otherwise, it's because you haven't opened enough chests yet and you're just getting lucky/unlucky in the short run, or you're not paying enough attention. In the long run, they work out just like they say.
This topic comes up about once a month, btw
This topic comes up about once a month, btw
miskav
Anything that's in percentages can't be noticed in practice most of the time, same goes for droprates and retain rates.
Nomme Moon
I've actually noticed that I've been retaining them *more* than usual this weekend. Funny.
toastgodsupreme
I've pretty much given up on lockpicks.
I retained 3 times in a row with the first one I ever got, and never had a retain again.
So yeah.
I retained 3 times in a row with the first one I ever got, and never had a retain again.
So yeah.
Winterclaw
It's all about luck. I've gone through half a dozen picks that lasted only once, and I've had single picks that have lasted half a dozen tries.
Squishy ftw
It's luck, stop making useless threads about it already...
knockturnal
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Anyone with lots of lockpick uses will tell you (and I guarantee you I'm only the first): Retention rates are dead on. If you are seeing otherwise, it's because you haven't opened enough chests yet and you're just getting lucky/unlucky in the short run, or you're not paying enough attention. In the long run, they work out just like they say.
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QFT. It shows over a prolonged period of time. Everyone who opens chests regularly will tell you they go on prolonged streaks of breaking and prolonged streaks of retaining.
Witchblade
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It's luck, stop making useless threads about it already...
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'til today i thought retention of a pick in HM was scifi
been on an average 3-4chests per pick the whole evening
Davros Uitar
My retention rate should be 62% but this weekend I am up over 80% - very high and using very few picks 
Very few 5 chest runs breaking 2 picks and none at all breaking 3/5.
And as a poster a few up said, if you run chests long enough you know there is very good and very bad runs out there.
Very few 5 chest runs breaking 2 picks and none at all breaking 3/5.And as a poster a few up said, if you run chests long enough you know there is very good and very bad runs out there.
The Red Messenger
i've been retaining exactly how i should...fetched 800ish chests with 250 picks @ 68%
secret lair is too cold, your hands shake when you try to use lockpicks. the freezing tempatures is -20% retention rate
trade fur squares to the mittens collector...hes just outside of sifhalla
secret lair is too cold, your hands shake when you try to use lockpicks. the freezing tempatures is -20% retention rate
trade fur squares to the mittens collector...hes just outside of sifhalla
Tarkin
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Originally Posted by MoriaOrc
Anyone with lots of lockpick uses will tell you (and I guarantee you I'm only the first): Retention rates are dead on. If you are seeing otherwise, it's because you haven't opened enough chests yet and you're just getting lucky/unlucky in the short run, or you're not paying enough attention. In the long run, they work out just like they say.
This topic comes up about once a month, btw |
at 100 keys retain 46 lost 54
at 200 keys retain 96 retain 104 lost
stop the log and no more worry about retention...
I am a person that never enter a area without a lockpit and i check log everytime i use a lockpit...
My personal exp about lockpits... you get "rows" of luck or unluck...
Sometimes you open 3, 4, 5, chest with retention of 30% and retain the key, sometimes i open low levels chests with retention of ( i cant renember my retention at low chests, but is something close of 80%) and lose 3 keys in a row, and afhter open 30 chests without losing any key... but at end the % goes close retention...
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Originally Posted by knockturnal
QFT. It shows over a prolonged period of time. Everyone who opens chests regularly will tell you they go on prolonged streaks of breaking and prolonged streaks of retaining.
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Sorry my weak english...
MoriaOrc
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Originally Posted by Tarkin
at 100 keys retain 46 lost 54
at 200 keys retain 96 retain 104 lost stop the log and no more worry about retention... |
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Mr. Undisclosed
Its in your head, anets not out to get you.
Pleikki
i've had retain rate of 28% whole weekend in hardmode. from 100first pics 32 retains so 32% and then another 100pics retained ~30 times aswell
Gli
I broke 22 lockpicks opening 100 newbie chests with a 92% retention rate. Worst run of luck was breaking 5 in a row.
Arduin
Lockpick retention rate is fine for me.
Pleikki
and 50 picks more used and retained ~20 times :d (hardmode)
Tarkin
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Originally Posted by MoriaOrc
These are close enough to 50-55% (albeit on the unlucky side). I notice that the "second 100" keys are in fact exactly 50/50.
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I'm sure everyone has their own superstitions about retentions (and other chance things). Some of them might even be right. However, especially when you're near 50% chance of either outcome, you're likely to get the occasional long streak (4+) on both sides.
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MoriaOrc
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Coincidence, i get the 52% and 55% bonus few time afther the 100th key, if statisc perfect i must have something like 104 retain, 96 lost...
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Lord High Pwner
Lockpicks are nearly spot as stated above. But i would say 100 picks still doesnt establish a decent baseline. Im not arguing against you but the more chests you log if you start looking at numbers in 1000's you'll see how close they really are. Back on topic dont open picks if you feel you're being cheated. You wouldnt gas your car up at a station you suspect added water would you?
ValaOfTheFens
I used 15 picks in a CoF run and only retained 1. 
Which was fine because my Unlucky is going up fast. 
Which was fine because my Unlucky is going up fast. 
Sir Owns Alot EP
Its all about luck.
In my year of playing GW, I've probably used around two hundred lockpicks, retained, like, three maybe?
In my year of playing GW, I've probably used around two hundred lockpicks, retained, like, three maybe?
BuD
I had a run of 18 chests with 2 Lock Picks in NM my retention rate is 65%.
Another run gave me 39 chests with 8 Lock Picks same place NM.
Each key has your % retention rate, its all luck after that.
Another run gave me 39 chests with 8 Lock Picks same place NM.
Each key has your % retention rate, its all luck after that.
Midnight Harmony
Sometimes I retain a lockpick 2 or 3 times, and other times they always break. It's all down to luck.