Just a quick post to say that after a short break, where I tried out WoW and Age of Conan (still playing AoC for a while), I always miss GW. Why? It's just the best mix out there IMHO. The interface is the very best I've seen - just the right mix of depth while avoiding all the tedious aspects of other MMOs. Good community to boot.
Plus...no subscription fee. I've yet to see a game that has given me a reason to switch to a paid subscription.
Curious if others have had this same experience. I am hopeful that GW2 will retain everything that made the first great, and not introduce the same pitfalls other games like AoC have.
Anyway - carry on.
GW Still King?
S0larius
Courage!
yeh ive been playing WoW lately but for some reason i love guild wars' game play alot more
Ghostcell
never played wow, never will.
i've gotten very bored of GW recently, so i've headed back to some FPS games
i've gotten very bored of GW recently, so i've headed back to some FPS games
Ork Pride
gw is a peasant not a king.
Spirit Of Azrael
Yeah, I love this game. Even after three years it's still fun. Of course it helps that I haven't even hit ~1000 total hours yet (917 atm, and probably 1/3-1/2 of those are afk hours lol)
Lawrence Chang
I'd still rather play WoW. Only reason I "log on" to GW is cuz i got nothing better to do. And its free....
Abedeus
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I'd still rather play WoW. Only reason I "log on" to GW is cuz i got nothing better to do. And its free....
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Avarre
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
qft. If there was a monthly in GW, nobody would play.
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Hermos
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Originally Posted by Ork Pride
gw is a peasant not a king.
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Abedeus
qft. If there was a monthly in GW, nobody would play.
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pumpkin pie
off course, never a doubt in my mind 
what is ITT and qft? i wish people stop using short form .... and Ig?
I am actually contemplating another 2 character slots... if and when it goes on sale. *throw giant big hint at Arena Net*
what is ITT and qft? i wish people stop using short form .... and Ig?
I am actually contemplating another 2 character slots... if and when it goes on sale. *throw giant big hint at Arena Net*
obsidian ectoplasm
Ig GW did have monthly's but i still think GW s a way better game
RedNova88
Wow! If you guys hate GW so much you'd think that you could come up with something better to do than to hurl mud at the game. I don't see YOU doing anything useful with you're time. Maybe now is a good time to start... by leaving those that still enjoy GW alone.
I still love my precious GW, but I am growing bored of it, but thus is the way of most campaign based games. There's a beginning an and end, and little new to be discovered outside of the main trail. However that doesn't automatically mean that I should come to despise the game just because Anet has moved on to bigger projects. GW is still a great game, and even with it's minor flaws, and the whiny whiny WHINY community I still find much joy in the game after a year of hardcore playing. At least with GW if I'm still seeing the same stuff, at least I know I'm not being forced to pay, even if I just want to say hi to old friends. And on top of it all, Blizzard (no offense) doesn't seem to put much of the money it earns back into it's product. Take a look at City of Heroes, they're STILL releasing free expansions, they're on what, number 12 now? And each expansion is of moderate size and content, sure it's not huge, but then... Neither was The Burning Crusade. Lineage 2, as much as I hate that game, does the same as City of Heroes, releasing free content on a regular basis. But no matter how many MMOs I play GWs is the only one that can keep me coming back on a regular basis. It's like the old Super Nintendo games like Super Metroid or Starfox, or perhaps F-Zero. Sure you've been there and seen that, but it's still an awesome game.
But seriously... Half the posters in this thread need to... Well... To put it very gently you need to contribute something worth reading, or just leave. At least Zinger's posts are intelligent.
Abedeus seems to carry much arrogance and ignorance with him. Flee! Lest thy be consumed!
I still love my precious GW, but I am growing bored of it, but thus is the way of most campaign based games. There's a beginning an and end, and little new to be discovered outside of the main trail. However that doesn't automatically mean that I should come to despise the game just because Anet has moved on to bigger projects. GW is still a great game, and even with it's minor flaws, and the whiny whiny WHINY community I still find much joy in the game after a year of hardcore playing. At least with GW if I'm still seeing the same stuff, at least I know I'm not being forced to pay, even if I just want to say hi to old friends. And on top of it all, Blizzard (no offense) doesn't seem to put much of the money it earns back into it's product. Take a look at City of Heroes, they're STILL releasing free expansions, they're on what, number 12 now? And each expansion is of moderate size and content, sure it's not huge, but then... Neither was The Burning Crusade. Lineage 2, as much as I hate that game, does the same as City of Heroes, releasing free content on a regular basis. But no matter how many MMOs I play GWs is the only one that can keep me coming back on a regular basis. It's like the old Super Nintendo games like Super Metroid or Starfox, or perhaps F-Zero. Sure you've been there and seen that, but it's still an awesome game.
But seriously... Half the posters in this thread need to... Well... To put it very gently you need to contribute something worth reading, or just leave. At least Zinger's posts are intelligent.
Abedeus seems to carry much arrogance and ignorance with him. Flee! Lest thy be consumed!
Thizzle
Guild Wars time came and went, same with World of Warcraft. I mean sure, Wrath of The Lich King will expand it's life a little, but by then Guild Wars 2 will be in the spotlight. I think it's about Age of Conan now. I usually never play games that have a $15 monthly fee and I think there are many others like me so that might make sense why Guild Wars was as big as it was.
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But really - the main point ANYONE plays GW is because it's f2p after buying it once. If it was $12-$15, people would play so many other games... Lineage 2, WoW, RO, DR, AoC...
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But really - the main point ANYONE plays GW is because it's f2p after buying it once. If it was $12-$15, people would play so many other games... Lineage 2, WoW, RO, DR, AoC...
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Abedeus
No, I mean that not too many games with 100k+ members a month are free.
And that's the main reason nobody treats GW as a MMORPG - it's free after you buy it once, although it tries to compete with monthly paid games.
Oh, and we say ,,it's free to play'' when a game is either free totally or it's online-only without fees. The other game that I've seen called like that is Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory - free to download, free to play for ever. Just needs a server to play on.
And that's the main reason nobody treats GW as a MMORPG - it's free after you buy it once, although it tries to compete with monthly paid games.
Oh, and we say ,,it's free to play'' when a game is either free totally or it's online-only without fees. The other game that I've seen called like that is Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory - free to download, free to play for ever. Just needs a server to play on.
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Yes but if Starcraft had a monthly fee would any1 play?
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Tzu
I love GW
Even when I've finished the campaigns, I'll still have fun with the quests I've set aside for now, and mapping, and events, and of course PvP.
I'm one of those who actually read the dialogue for every quest when I receive them, I read lore from manuals and guildwiki, and I've got so much more out of the game for it.
I hope I'm not the only one
Even when I've finished the campaigns, I'll still have fun with the quests I've set aside for now, and mapping, and events, and of course PvP.
I'm one of those who actually read the dialogue for every quest when I receive them, I read lore from manuals and guildwiki, and I've got so much more out of the game for it.
I hope I'm not the only one
blue.rellik
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And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
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arcanemacabre
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Name one other game in Starcraft's genre that has a monthly fee to compare it with.
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Inger
You guys can't really say no one would play GW if it had a monthly fee, because conversely if it had a monthly fee there would also subsequently be better content. Hopefully at least 
Its like the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Its like the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
RotteN
It's still the only RP-ish game with decent competitive PvP (arena-style).
Surely PvPers talk all the time about all the stuff that "could be better". But all in all, it's not bad, and it's surely better than most of the alternatives.
Surely PvPers talk all the time about all the stuff that "could be better". But all in all, it's not bad, and it's surely better than most of the alternatives.
Avarre
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I'd say the same for GW, seeing as it isn't an MMO.
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If anything, that's just a classification trick. GW bears almost all the same game design features of every other online rpg that define the category. Trying to explain GW can't be compared to MMOs due to its subtly different categorization is just playing semantics, especially as GW has been designed in the manner of a MMO continually.
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Explain to me how GW, advertised as a CORPG, is in any way competitive?
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If anything, that's just a classification trick. GW bears almost all the same game design features of every other online rpg that define the category. Trying to explain GW can't be compared to MMOs due to its subtly different categorization is just playing semantics, especially as GW has been designed in the manner of a MMO continually.
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enter_the_zone
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qft. If there was a monthly in GW, nobody would play.
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Angelica
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gw is a peasant not a king.
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I like GW to me it's the best game ever, not because it's free but because it has the best looking characters, the best game animations [very natural] and the most important thing to is; the very easy way to play it!
I did not play many other RPGs that I liked as GW, beside Diablo!
I just started to play Age of Conan [Hyborian Adventures] but I'm really disappointed, after waiting so long for it I thought it would be awesome. The only thing that I liked was the water and the way the toons swim!
I have already decided to leave it alone, sigh what a waste of money!
Also I tried Hellgate London, which in my opinion is much better than Conan, but not enough for me to continue to play it.
At the end of my so called rant I concluded that up til now Guild Wars is the best game for me and I really hope Anet wont disappoint me with GW2.
I enjoy this game even now after almost three years of playing, it has never happened to me before...... well beside Diablo that is!
A big thank you to all the awesome people who work at Anet to make this game even better for the future!
PS. If I had to pay to play GW .... I would gladly do so!
Abedeus
Lul, maybe you like GW so because you think Diablo is an RPG. This explains A LOT.
Last time I checked, Diablo or Diablo 2 had servers that players host (on battle.net, but still) and the only time you can see more than 7 other people was on chatrooms, without interaction.
But if you want to compare Diablo and GW... GW fails miserably. Diablo II is in Guinness Book of World Records "2000 edition" for the fastest selling game. In two weeks over 1 million copies were sold. And after a year, 2,8 millions. If GW was equal to it, there would be already at least 8,4 sold copies of it. And lets not forget that 2,8 millions of stand-alone game, not all expansions.
Yes, thanks that game from Very Damn Good went to Lol what the hell is that bear doing here? .
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But if you want to compare Diablo and GW... GW fails miserably. Diablo II is in Guinness Book of World Records "2000 edition" for the fastest selling game. In two weeks over 1 million copies were sold. And after a year, 2,8 millions. If GW was equal to it, there would be already at least 8,4 sold copies of it. And lets not forget that 2,8 millions of stand-alone game, not all expansions.
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Arduin
For me, GW is still King. And now off for some more adventuring.
English Warrior
guild wars is anything but king there are so many flaws in different parts of the game its unhuman.
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Lul, maybe you like GW so because you think Diablo is an RPG. This explains A LOT.
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the only time you can see more than 7 other people was on chatrooms, without interaction.
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But if you want to compare Diablo and GW... GW fails miserably. Diablo II is in Guinness Book of World Records "2000 edition" for the fastest selling game. In two weeks over 1 million copies were sold. And after a year, 2,8 millions. If GW was equal to it, there would be already at least 8,4 sold copies of it. And lets not forget that 2,8 millions of stand-alone game, not all expansions.
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WinterSnowblind
Guild Wars is still the only online RPG I've ever enjoyed playing, unless you count Diablo or Neverwinter Nights, and only part of that has to do with the fact there's no monthly fee. If I thought it was a bad game, I wouldn't play it, fee or not. Personally, I hated World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XI and City of Heroes, and wouldn't go near them, even if they were free.
I'm shocked by how many people seem to hate the game, but stick around anyway. That seems totally illogical to me, ever thought about trying something else? Or do you really have that little to be doing with your life?
I'm shocked by how many people seem to hate the game, but stick around anyway. That seems totally illogical to me, ever thought about trying something else? Or do you really have that little to be doing with your life?
Safer Saviour
Guild Wars is a great game but it used to be so much better. Before heroes, people actually used to play with each other but now 90% of the game is solo-play and because most of the areas are instanced, it makes for a pretty antisocial experience.
I still love the 8-skill build system, the low level cap and some of the designs are amazing too but it's just stopped being fun really. I am looking forward to Guild Wars 2 though and I wish there was more news on it.
I'd still rather play Guild Wars than WoW and yes, monthy fees do factor into that decision. WoW just isn't worth the money and whilst Guild Wars probably isn't at the moment, it used to be.
I still love the 8-skill build system, the low level cap and some of the designs are amazing too but it's just stopped being fun really. I am looking forward to Guild Wars 2 though and I wish there was more news on it.
I'd still rather play Guild Wars than WoW and yes, monthy fees do factor into that decision. WoW just isn't worth the money and whilst Guild Wars probably isn't at the moment, it used to be.
Courage!
guild wars is like glue as much as u hate it u just stay there
Cab Tastic
Last time I looked GW wasn't free. I distinctly remember handing over cash for it.
Abedeus
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Want a funny screenshot? Tell me what you see is strange on it.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/573/gw566vi1.jpg
I'll tell you - a player using no consumables, no ursan and only 6 heroes clears FoW. I had a screenshot when I did 7 or 10 quests, but for the first I have something broken with my screenshoting, images sometimes are not caught, and for the second I'm too damn bored after charging through ,,elite'' area. THERE IS NO REAL CHALLENGE. What's the point if I don't even need to call a target, killing Shadow Monks is just a matter of time before they'll be overwhelmed, heroes and players have infinite health and energy... Like a god damn cheat in a single-player game.
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Last time I looked GW wasn't free. I distinctly remember handing over cash for it.
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GW has great graphics (better than any other online rpg of its generation imo), and by far the best pvp system
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Yeah. I guess that's why so many people left the game already. Oh, wait, they got bored. I mean - if I can solo fow with heroes... Who can't? It's just god damn boring.
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it's like you're dynamite fishing, and QQing because it's too easy
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Yeah. I guess that's why so many people left the game already. Oh, wait, they got bored. I mean - if I can solo fow with heroes... Who can't? It's just god damn boring.
Diablo 2, Dungeon Siege and NwN's single-player (because multi can be even a game of chess - rly) are HACK&SLASHes. Games where plot is just an addition, where most of players play against tons of monsters, using overpowered skills to kill those enemies. Oh, wait, this reminds me something. We stick around because of either friends or we try to make this game as good as it used to be. Want a funny screenshot? Tell me what you see is strange on it. http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/573/gw566vi1.jpg I'll tell you - a player using no consumables, no ursan and only 6 heroes clears FoW. I had a screenshot when I did 7 or 10 quests, but for the first I have something broken with my screenshoting, images sometimes are not caught, and for the second I'm too damn bored after charging through ,,elite'' area. THERE IS NO REAL CHALLENGE. What's the point if I don't even need to call a target, killing Shadow Monks is just a matter of time before they'll be overwhelmed, heroes and players have infinite health and energy... Like a god damn cheat in a single-player game. |
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Diablo 2, Dungeon Siege and NwN's single-player (because multi can be even a game of chess - rly) are HACK&SLASHes. Games where plot is just an addition, where most of players play against tons of monsters, using overpowered skills to kill those enemies.
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Also, because I want to razz ya,
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Want a funny screenshot? Tell me what you see is strange on it.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/573/gw566vi1.jpg I'll tell you - a player using no consumables, no ursan and only 6 heroes clears FoW. |