The Horrors Of 512K Internet?

Krydel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

A/W

Hello GW Gurus,

I am soon to be moving house from a 4mb connection.

The place i am moving to will be on a 512k connection (har har) so this is a major downgrade. I hear some people play on 56k smoothly enough, but have problems during peak times. Is there anyone on a 512k connection or lower that has any information about how AB, pvp, gvg, RA, HBs etc. is on such a low connection. I fear this is the end of mmorpg and xbox live for me, but correct me if im wrong.

Thank you in advance,

Krydel

Phineas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

I suspect it depends on what else you are using your connection for at the same time. Just playing this game and nothing else should not show any performance difference.

miskav

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

I wouldn't play interrupter or monk in PvP if I was you.
You'll miss infuses/prots/interrupts way to often =/.
+ Wtf... there are still 56k's?..

ShoGunTheOne

ShoGunTheOne

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2007

Undercity

泰瑞亚联盟

E/

i'm on 384kps line
on average i get ~350-600 ping
in trade cities i get ~700

the game's totally playable unless you're running interupts

EDIT: if you have downloads going at the back, your ping raises to 1500+

xPIMPx

xPIMPx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Uk

Hmmm Defrosted Cat [Poo]

W/A

May God have mercy on your soul !

rayd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

No Veo Na [xX]

Oh god, and i'm frustrated when I get 200 ping...



My life would end


(I play on ~30-60 most of the time)

Jamison0071

Jamison0071

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Morporkian Mercenaries

N/Me

I play on 512 here in Australia (aka Terrible Ping Land) and I get an average of 200 Ping which is decent. Though I wouldn't suggest trying to play split second builds, it is possible...just more challenging.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

The speed shouldnt change your ping since guildwars uses barely any bandwidth, im not an expert on internets but i was under the impression that bandwidth has nothing to do with ping provided you have enough of it.

I didnt notice any ping change when i swapped from 512 broadband to 8MB broadband a couple of years ago, the only thing that should change your ping is the line quality you have and the ISP.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I feel for ya...though I went from 1.5 to 6....I noticed NO difference in my speed in game.....my husband also has noted no change---with all the lag and stuff going on since I got my new dsl I think I would need to wait to see if there is any difference!

Turbobusa

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

By the Luxon Scavenger

The Mentalists [THPK]

N/

That's nothing compared to a campus connection... fear 2megs divided amongst 3000 students.
When I'm reaching 1k ping, I can play without too much frustration, I guess 512k should be more than enough

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

Rt/

Everything will work just fine, just pause background downloads.
Here where i live 512kbps is standard

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

I'm on an 8mb line but get about 500-1500ms ping constantly. It means I get lagged out if I try to solo Tombs.

Nemo the Capitalist

Nemo the Capitalist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair

Zaishen Brotherhood

N/Me

56k its pure hell haad it for life time

General DS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

pie land

Fate Worse than Death

W/

100kbps here, with no graphics card. i have graphics turned down to lowest and i have about 100-160 ping normally and 35 fps. hope that helps a lil ><

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Latency (ping) is unrelated to bandwidth.

GW is scaled to use no more than 4 kilobytes/second (40k in bandwidth terms) for actual gameplay.

What your ping will be however depends on many factors, all of which are beyond your control.

Ironically, my ping on 56k dial-up has always been lower than on cable.

RedNova88

RedNova88

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Behind you!

W/

Well many online games will give you horrid lag with that sort of connection (most mainstream games that can be played online). However GW is really resilient when it comes to internet capabilities, and you don't need a super fast connection to stay with the pace of the game. Just don't expect other games to be as friendly, especially FPS games.

Taurus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mexico

Go for the eyes [jizz]

W/Mo

Dont Try BB sin... or anything else that requires weapon switching.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Krydel,

It's already been said above me - ping is unrelated to bandwidth. I think the only noticable difference you will find is in update times. Running the -image command will take you around 5 hours (I did it recently on my sister's 512 connection).

One of the greatest contributers to ping is distance. Internet distance - how many hubs the signal needs to pass through to get to you. I suspect if you live anywhere in America your ping is still likely to be less than 100ms.

People in Australia regularly play pvp on pings greater than 300. While I personally steer clear of playing infuse, interrupt is not completely impossible.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

I am on 512k connection.



better now that I have a new computer also i have 60-70fps now

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krydel
Hello GW Gurus,

I am soon to be moving house from a 4mb connection.

The place i am moving to will be on a 512k connection (har har) so this is a major downgrade. I hear some people play on 56k smoothly enough, but have problems during peak times. Is there anyone on a 512k connection or lower that has any information about how AB, pvp, gvg, RA, HBs etc. is on such a low connection. I fear this is the end of mmorpg and xbox live for me, but correct me if im wrong.

Thank you in advance,

Krydel
I play on 56k and have for years from Everquest to this and only rarely have I ever experienced real lag or downtime because of it. If the hubs and jumps aren't overflowing even 56k is just fine and I get 72fps video as well where others are only getting 30 or less. I won't say I never get lag, but, it's hardly annoying as it's not constant or that often. I play RA/AB and FA quite a lot and I just don't notice it hardly at all.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I play on 56k every summer (cheap ass parents). Anyway, my ping never gets as bad as Pumpkin Pie's, usally around 800ms. FPS will get low and occassionally spike. HBs are basically impossible (any bit of slow loading and you lose). Interupt and finiesce builds are also impossible to run properly (you can run interupt, but you'd have to spam your interupts, which isn't the proper way to play that build). Other then that, you can still play around and enjoy yourself. You might occassionally slow load into RA, but once you are in you'll be okay. It won't affect organized PvP too much, though running vent/ts can be tough if you don't optimize your system. The only time 56k really just didn't work was during the NF PvP preview weekend. A large spike in the number of users on a.net's servers + all that new content to download just killed my connection.

Moral55

Moral55

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

SNOW

E/Me

Just make sure you have all the areas loaded on your comp before moving and you should be fine.

Gattsu05

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Rt/N

I run on 28.8k with no problems except for weekend events like x-mas or triple drop weekends. Got a great comp but I still keep most my settings on low. Biggest thing is not to be loading or running other programs that use the net like web pages or Vent/TS.

Maca

Maca

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guardians Of The Stars

Me/Mo

Hmm I play on 512k and really dont have any problems, can run webpages, use vent/ts, sometimes it goes >300, but most of the time is just fine ( gvg, ab anything).

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/

Don't worry about it ... it should be ok if the line is stable... most of the time I play with torrents downloading at the back leaving only 80 - 60k for gw.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Won't be much of a difference for GW, since it doesn't need much to run. The only downside... you can't do much else other than GW and your bandwidth will suffer.

At least you HAD 4mbit. Australia's connection is GODAWFUL so makes no difference if it's 512k or 100mbit, we still get 200+ ping.

L33TNeMiSiS

L33TNeMiSiS

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

Graveyard of Undying Heroes

E/

I'm a Senior Systems Engineer(in computer systems) for a University(So it's my job to know about these kind of things) .. As a previous user stated. Line speed has VERY LITTLE to do with your ping in guild wars. Ping is the round time for a packet in game. That gets determined by your geographical location, and the entire route your packets follow to the server. And whether or not your ISP is shaping your traffic. As another user indicated somebody on dail-up could be getting a better ping in Guild wars than a user that has a 100mb/s connection. It all depends on your ISP usually. Personally do a ping test or a tracert(or traceroute on linux) and have a look what kinda of ping you can expect for gw. PM me if you have any more questions :-).

gremlin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

GWAR

Me/Mo

Quality of the internet is as important as the speed perhaps more so.

I am on a 20 meg service right now which is great but that can drop by half at peak times and weekends between 1800 and midnight are usually bad then I have at times been as low as 4.

Which probably means when I was on the 2 meg service with the same company I was usually gaming at 512 to 1000 and GW was just fine.

When they did maintenance it was a problem as there where times when gw was unplayable but then they announce maintenance times so I can work around them.

A 512 which is a constant 512 should have no problems at all.

kostolomac

kostolomac

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2008

Serbia

Me/

I play on 512k , with no problems , interrupts in pve are possible , i don't know about pvp. Only lags during events.

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

You should be ok, and btw ping is unrelated to bandwidth.. I have a 4.7mb connection yet regularly get 200+ pings in AB, luckily when in TA or RA my ping is stable at 109.

My friend has a 768k connection and always has a ping below 100ms.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

Do you even know how much bandwidth does GW use?
Most of the time it's way below 1kbps, more during intense battles or highly populated towns, but it gets above 2kbps only in some extreme cases.

Ping in GW is completely unrelated to bandwidth (maybe except some superslow connections like 128kb which are just slow), however it's heavily affected by other traffic in your network - a software limited background download using 30% of your bandwidth can double your ping in GW!

Little Shenanigan

Little Shenanigan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

i played gw with 56k (dial up) for a while. it's not bad at all - the only bad thing is that it took forever to load maps. other than that, nothing was wrong. (it was a fairly new pc)