I know it is possible to shadow form farm ToPK, but I was looking at some of the monsters there, and the Terrorweb Dryders have [lava font].
Wouldn't that hit through SF and kill you?
Shadow Form in ToPK
Alex the Great
Moloch Vein
I heard you could kite 
NND
i think they won' t use this skill for some reason..
im not 100% sure, though.. it's been a while since i last farmed there
im not 100% sure, though.. it's been a while since i last farmed there
Syco Masato
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Tombs_Ecto_Farmer
Abedeus
They never used it when I was farming them with my Assassin some time ago. They probably will use it only if 2+ people are attacking them.
... I wish heroes were as smart as they are.
... I wish heroes were as smart as they are.
Alex the Great
alrighty, I'm gonna try farming there (my guild is haveing a party and i'm responsible for bringing the party favors, so i'm gonna farm a ton of tombs greens lol)
miskav
Lol alex, Just give them all 35g each :P
They'll merch the greens anyway D:.
But yeah, same as why an ele in eotn wont cast meteor shower on 1 person (Most of the time).
They tend to see it an energy unefficient.
They'll merch the greens anyway D:.
But yeah, same as why an ele in eotn wont cast meteor shower on 1 person (Most of the time).
They tend to see it an energy unefficient.
Alex the Great
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Originally Posted by miskav
Lol alex, Just give them all 35g each :P
They'll merch the greens anyway D:
you underestimate the noobness of my guild.
plus you can use them on heros, i think some heros on my sin are useing tombs greens atm.
They'll merch the greens anyway D:
you underestimate the noobness of my guild.
plus you can use them on heros, i think some heros on my sin are useing tombs greens atm.
t00115577
never farmed topk, but the same enemies in UW never, ever use it if your alone, dont know why
me_mini
i farmed it several times and i still doing it just for fun and see all that powerful monsters(rofl) getting down so easy, anyway they wont use that skill for some reason
Mr.Kotte
I believe the Terrorwebs only use [Lava font] when there's 2 or more people adjacent
Abedeus
The only reason to farm Tombs is because weapons are good for heroes, you also get a lot of exp, warrior/mesmer/ele tomes and it's damn fun. I mean, people used to have problems with Tombs some times ago and now people can solo it...
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Mr.Kotte
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I think that's exactly what I said.
Meh, I never read what other people writes.
Skinny Corpse
I've only tried it once but cleared everything until I
reached the wurms on lvl 2.. then I messed up and died.. so, it works
pretty nicely.
Too many Grasps at once can cause you some energy problems tho due to their use of "Fear Me!".
reached the wurms on lvl 2.. then I messed up and died.. so, it works
pretty nicely.
Too many Grasps at once can cause you some energy problems tho due to their use of "Fear Me!".
ragnagard
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And for the magic question, answers:
1) They wont cast Lava font if you go alone
2) They will cast Lava font if you go with more than 1 person there. >=2
3) Level one is doable just with the new A/E glyph+Dparadox+FS+Sliver, it's just about 10-20 mins, didnt start a chrono when did it. Here's a Sshot in HM with crap build.
4) Level one (and at least level two) have ecto's as drops from both riders and spiders.
5) Drop is just as UW or even poorer, maybe you clean all the level 1 and level 2 ecto's dropper and you dont see 1 hehe.
At least those are my facts farming tombs with A/E.
kostolomac
I clear the first level with my mesmer in around 5-6 minutes , but i tend to only kill the riders and spiders. The most ecto i got in one run 2 in level 1 and 1 in level 2. Changing the damage dealing skills changes the drop a bit.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Alex the Great
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[lava font] - Adjacent
[sliver armor] - Nearby
Even if AI improves, you can stay out of lava font easily.
Reall challenge in TOKP is Fear Me! if you overaggro grasps. It can make one unable to recast SF (unless you have 15/-1 energy set on swap for emergencies.)
[sliver armor] - Nearby
Even if AI improves, you can stay out of lava font easily.
Reall challenge in TOKP is Fear Me! if you overaggro grasps. It can make one unable to recast SF (unless you have 15/-1 energy set on swap for emergencies.)
tuna-fish_sushi
I heard you could solo all of ToPK with a A/E SF dagger build. so you can still solo farm those greenies
yomamayomama
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! goddamnit!!! llololol
no jokes, i was actually thinking of starting a thread myself on this topic but on the subject of how to actually farm it
don't get me wrong A/E has been around for a while now, but with a A/ME (and other ppl's builds, so i will not take credit for that part) i can farm the entire first lvl in 4 minutes flat and most of the second in 15-20
the builds been posted on this forum alrdy.....just not the technique :P
edit:: on hard mode lol::
no jokes, i was actually thinking of starting a thread myself on this topic but on the subject of how to actually farm it
don't get me wrong A/E has been around for a while now, but with a A/ME (and other ppl's builds, so i will not take credit for that part) i can farm the entire first lvl in 4 minutes flat and most of the second in 15-20
the builds been posted on this forum alrdy.....just not the technique :P
edit:: on hard mode lol::
Clock Bear
I wanna do this, but I don't know how to get to the tombs. Can someone tell me? 
yomamayomama
u have to go thru prophecies, bit of a treck but its worth it
its near the end of the dessert, just when u get to "the dragons lair" and u have to do "glint's trials"
instead of actually doing the mission, there's a portal in the "pre-mission" area.....just port from there, and bam ^_^
its near the end of the dessert, just when u get to "the dragons lair" and u have to do "glint's trials"
instead of actually doing the mission, there's a portal in the "pre-mission" area.....just port from there, and bam ^_^
Clock Bear
thanks, I just got to the desert yesterday... so i guess i'll do that
Chthon
Dryders don't use lava font on you for some reason.
A bigger problem is that the grasps will use Fear Me, which can cause you to miss your SF if several of them drain you at the wrong time.
A bigger problem is that the grasps will use Fear Me, which can cause you to miss your SF if several of them drain you at the wrong time.
teotuf
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Originally Posted by yomamayomama
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! goddamnit!!! llololol
no jokes, i was actually thinking of starting a thread myself on this topic but on the subject of how to actually farm it
don't get me wrong A/E has been around for a while now, but with a A/ME (and other ppl's builds, so i will not take credit for that part) i can farm the entire first lvl in 4 minutes flat and most of the second in 15-20
the builds been posted on this forum alrdy.....just not the technique :P
edit:: on hard mode lol:: it has, mod deleted the post
no jokes, i was actually thinking of starting a thread myself on this topic but on the subject of how to actually farm it
don't get me wrong A/E has been around for a while now, but with a A/ME (and other ppl's builds, so i will not take credit for that part) i can farm the entire first lvl in 4 minutes flat and most of the second in 15-20
the builds been posted on this forum alrdy.....just not the technique :P
edit:: on hard mode lol:: it has, mod deleted the post
Dragasa
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Dylananimus
My gf clearer Tombs solo yesterday with the SF/sliver build (we started same time but I lagged out in 3rd room).
I tried again today and completed it. Only thing you have to watch out for is not pulling too many grasps, and when you have them on you...make sure you let sliver kill the grasps first. For the worm pops, just note where they pop and be ready for them coming. Make sure you have a fresh SF up, then when they pop just stand still by them and they wont slide back into the earth. Sliver kills them fairly quickly if you have enough enemy attacking you.
Another good hint - especially for level 3 and 4 - is to allow the casters to follow you to the worms (once you've killed those annoying grasps). That way you can take the worms down quicker. Also, don't kill everything and then try to kill the Darkness guys...keep some caster on you and hitting you, it'll make taking them down much quicker
The only skills I found myself using were Glyph of Swiftness, DP, SF, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Intensity and Sliver...as I don't have the Vanguard skill.
You don't really get much, but it's fun to do at least once
I tried again today and completed it. Only thing you have to watch out for is not pulling too many grasps, and when you have them on you...make sure you let sliver kill the grasps first. For the worm pops, just note where they pop and be ready for them coming. Make sure you have a fresh SF up, then when they pop just stand still by them and they wont slide back into the earth. Sliver kills them fairly quickly if you have enough enemy attacking you.
Another good hint - especially for level 3 and 4 - is to allow the casters to follow you to the worms (once you've killed those annoying grasps). That way you can take the worms down quicker. Also, don't kill everything and then try to kill the Darkness guys...keep some caster on you and hitting you, it'll make taking them down much quicker
The only skills I found myself using were Glyph of Swiftness, DP, SF, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Intensity and Sliver...as I don't have the Vanguard skill.
You don't really get much, but it's fun to do at least once
yomamayomama
how long does it take to do a full run on average? i might just muster the strength to do a full run A/Me....test which can go faster :P
(i'm actually just quite curious tho)
(i'm actually just quite curious tho)
Avatar Exico
idk if anyone exp or notice it. But how are the Fingers of Chaos able to use Skill "Fear Me!" You have to hit the person to gain adr. They are gaining adr without hitting you while SF is up. Allowing them to use Fear me alot, which is me personally screwing me over.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
idk if anyone exp or notice it. But how are the Fingers of Chaos able to use Skill "Fear Me!" You have to hit the person to gain adr. They are gaining adr without hitting you while SF is up. Allowing them to use Fear me alot, which is me personally screwing me over.
* Adrenaline is gained by health loss. Fear Me is fully charged when you loose 80% to total health. So each grasp is able (and will) to use It exactly one before death.
* they have "To the Limit!" skill. which means that they fully charge fear me in 1:20 within agroing even if you deal no damage.
If you overaggro, you kill them too fast in begining (~ 3 fearmes from inital slivers) and are very likely that enough will be alive by 1:20 fearmespike you are guaranteed to get..
Which means THAT:
1) you need -5e martial weapon of enchanting / Shield set to hide energy when castin slivers (cast gole with normal set -> switch to lowevene set -> enjoy casting slivers/standard with 0 energy and enjoy fearmes doing exactly nothing to you). When 1:20 approaches, make sure you are at low ene set too.
also, have 15/-1 focus with +5e/20% enchanting weapon ready for emergency cast. (sadly, you cant use also 15/-1 wand or bad stuff happens on next recast ...)
* they have "To the Limit!" skill. which means that they fully charge fear me in 1:20 within agroing even if you deal no damage.
If you overaggro, you kill them too fast in begining (~ 3 fearmes from inital slivers) and are very likely that enough will be alive by 1:20 fearmespike you are guaranteed to get..
Which means THAT:
1) you need -5e martial weapon of enchanting / Shield set to hide energy when castin slivers (cast gole with normal set -> switch to lowevene set -> enjoy casting slivers/standard with 0 energy and enjoy fearmes doing exactly nothing to you). When 1:20 approaches, make sure you are at low ene set too.
also, have 15/-1 focus with +5e/20% enchanting weapon ready for emergency cast. (sadly, you cant use also 15/-1 wand or bad stuff happens on next recast ...)
Avatar Exico
ty. I was wondering why they were using Fear Me so much. That explain it very well. My only thought against this was to have Caster Set with +5 Martial Weapon and +30/15/-1 just in case of heavy energy degan. The mean time using a Staff helps but most iv seen was -20 energy lost that was with 4 Fear Me's.
B3Rnd
Which build is better for ToPK? Sliver Armor or Daggers?
Nightow
Daggers. I was having loads of energy issues with sliver but not with daggers.
ragnagard
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Originally Posted by Dragasa
It can be cleared, the biggest problems you'll face are the graspings and boredom.
My fault.. hehe. I think my boredom just kill me :P.
I dunno where i read the imposibility of > level 2. Maybe i read about giant wurms and i imagined the other things ^^
I dunno where i read the imposibility of > level 2. Maybe i read about giant wurms and i imagined the other things ^^
Nightow
lol, impossible? Me and a whole bunch of alliance members cleared it last night. The wurms can be taken down with the dagger build at http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Daggers_Farmer.
EDIT: Just make sure that if you multiple ppl with you when doing this, that they all have SF or stay away from the wurms while you kill them or the wurms will target the ones without SF and spread AoE dmg to you.
EDIT: Just make sure that if you multiple ppl with you when doing this, that they all have SF or stay away from the wurms while you kill them or the wurms will target the ones without SF and spread AoE dmg to you.
Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by Avatar Exico
ty. I was wondering why they were using Fear Me so much. That explain it very well. My only thought against this was to have Caster Set with +5 Martial Weapon and +30/15/-1 just in case of heavy energy degan. The mean time using a Staff helps but most iv seen was -20 energy lost that was with 4 Fear Me's.
Just another note about possible low energy due to too many grasps...I also had with me a totem axe and an earth offhand with +15 en (-1 regen of course). In tricky moments I equipped that to ensure I'd have enough energy for SF. Then switched right back to the staff so the -1 didn't screw things up more.
I only had to do it once or twice due to getting over eager
As for time, I honestly don't know how long it would take without stopping, as I stopped half way for dinner, and at various other times to send emails ect Just find a safe place to stand 
I only had to do it once or twice due to getting over eager
As for time, I honestly don't know how long it would take without stopping, as I stopped half way for dinner, and at various other times to send emails ect
Just find a safe place to stand
KartMan
I'm doing topk with my mes, it's pretty easy but you need to focus a bit more to keep the sf chains up
it's probably easier for energy thanks to [spirit of failure] and [channeling] but maybe longer, I think something around 2 hours for a full run, I guess I'll have to /age and take screens
it's probably easier for energy thanks to [spirit of failure] and [channeling] but maybe longer, I think something around 2 hours for a full run, I guess I'll have to /age and take screens
mazza558
Slivers is about 50% faster provided you have the PvE skills for it. Take glyph of lesser energy and you'll be fine.
Warriorsrmint
When you solo TopK how long does it take? I know when people started in 06 it took 3-4 hours but is that still the case?
KartMan
I'd say it depends on the build, if a mes can do it in 2 hours (in HM), chances are sin builds will do it faster
Abedeus
Be careful when doing HM. I tried to clear 2nd level with my Mesmer using the UW farm build and wurms were a bit lame. I knew they will knock me down, so I prepared for that as much as I could, but when I started to degen them, graspings around me scattered and I began to like loose energy. Maybe I should try Me/A with daggers instead of spells? ;d