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rexalex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hungary

Hungarian Seniors [HUNs]

N/Mo

26 May 2008 at 20:11 - 1

Anyone feels too that the "removed" AFC code degrades the GW to an avarage RPG level?

I simply lost all my income source. I prefer H/H PvE and im doing various solo farm to earn money for my need.
Every new spot i discovered lately dries out after a few run.
In the beginning i got very good drops, many white, blue, some purple and a few gold. Tomes too sometimes.
But AFC applies and everithing goes away

It is pathetic ... maybe i start to play again on a cracked L2 server like before GW.

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

26 May 2008 at 20:12 - 2

If only there were something else to do ingame than farm!

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

26 May 2008 at 20:17 - 3

Farming was fun a very long time ago, when it was possible for a 55 to make 10k in 10 minutes. Now, about the best you can do is 4 account Kurzick HFFF at 19k ish/hour. My, how the times have changed...

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

26 May 2008 at 20:21 - 4

A-net took out the anti farm code and just decided to make farming crap instead =D.

Sparda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Netherlands

N/

26 May 2008 at 20:29 - 5

Well every one is complaining these days it seems most people are so fixed on cash.
Just leave it.
i have grown tired of all this cash accumulation and the QQ about that people never have enough.
I'll stop trolling around now bye bye.

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

26 May 2008 at 20:34 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diddy bow

A-net took out the anti farm code

Pull the other one, mate.

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

26 May 2008 at 20:37 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esan

Pull the other one, mate.

The code is gone, or might be, we have Loot scaling now so you cant really mesure anything...

That said nothing good drops in the first place anymore so who knows

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

26 May 2008 at 20:41 - 8

just farm things that aren't effected by loot scaling....like ecto

* Skill Tomes
* Scrolls
* Dye
* Rare materials, such as Ectoplasm
* Gemstones from the Domain of Anguish
* All other rare (gold) items
* All unique (green) items
* Special event items

jimmyboveto

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

US

Legion of Avalon

W/

26 May 2008 at 21:19 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparda

Well every one is complaining these days it seems most people are so fixed on cash.
Just leave it.
i have grown tired of all this cash accumulation and the QQ about that people never have enough.
I'll stop trolling around now bye bye.

Exactly. I don't see why people complain so much about cash. In fact, GW is a game in which you probably are probably LEAST stressed about cash. You can get perfect equipment just by playing the game, and nothing else. I used to farm, I got my pretty stuff, and now I see that it was a lot of boredom for nothing. If you need something to do, work on titles or do HM.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

26 May 2008 at 21:38 - 10

Jimmy it's the e-peen. More people care about having hot awesome stuff than stuff that works. Whether it be armor, weapons, titles, mini's, etc.

bel unbreakable

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

scotland

shadow hunters of light

W/Mo

26 May 2008 at 23:30 - 11

and you bloody well need to farm for some of those titles add in loot scaling then make a title that takes millions to max now that was a great move

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

26 May 2008 at 23:41 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by bel unbreakable

and you bloody well need to farm for some of those titles add in loot scaling then make a title that takes millions to max now that was a great move

For most titles, you're buying stuff from other players. Since antifarm affects all players about equally, it doesn't make that big a difference.

MrSlayer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

United Kingdom

Quit Whining And [PLAY]

Mo/

27 May 2008 at 01:04 - 13

You idiot. There is no AFC anymore. ANet denied its existence, claiming there was just an "Anti bot code" (same thing under a different name methinks), and then admitted it had been removed when they added Loot Scaling. LS made it un-needed.

How do I know there is no AFC? I farmed the same run for 3 days straight, and made between 2-10 ecto every run. For 3 days straight. I still get ~2.5k per run, and I still get 2-10 ecto.

And everytime Anet add something to slow farming, people find a way to make cash. If you hate it so much, do FoW clears...that's a nice source of income if you get lucky, or even if you don't.

You don't have to solo farm to make cash..

WARPATh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

Argentina

Umbrella Corp.

N/

27 May 2008 at 03:06 - 14

I only want money for

Five 15k armor (achived none)
all destroyer items (achived only 3)
Skill Titles (about 200k to finish it)

After that probably sink it all on lockpicks.

I don't care about "awesomess" I care about power.

That's why I have Tormented Shield tactics, but guess what is borrowed.

Stop whining about "eye candy is hard to get" because if it's HIGH END it's not MEANT TO BE EYE CANDY.

Elemental Sword was ugly before and it's ugly now that's really OVERFARMED.

C'mon just play the game , it's easy enough with Ursan and Permashadowform.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

27 May 2008 at 03:13 - 15

Guild Wars is a terrible choice of game if your aim is to farm for a vanity goal.

rexalex

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Hungary

Hungarian Seniors [HUNs]

N/Mo

27 May 2008 at 07:16 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSlayer

You idiot. There is no AFC anymore. ANet denied its existence, claiming there was just an "Anti bot code" (same thing under a different name methinks), and then admitted it had been removed when they added Loot Scaling. LS made it un-needed.

How do I know there is no AFC? I farmed the same run for 3 days straight, and made between 2-10 ecto every run. For 3 days straight. I still get ~2.5k per run, and I still get 2-10 ecto.

And everytime Anet add something to slow farming, people find a way to make cash. If you hate it so much, do FoW clears...that's a nice source of income if you get lucky, or even if you don't.

You don't have to solo farm to make cash..

Thx for your adult point of view.... whatever its name its still AFC and punish not just bots.
Im glad you can make cash easily but me and other noobs suffering from it.
Anet hates us? If not clear this antiobot code from real players.

Ben-A-BoO

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Europe

27 May 2008 at 07:35 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexalex

Thx for your adult point of view.... whatever its name its still AFC and punish not just bots.
Im glad you can make cash easily but me and other noobs suffering from it.
Anet hates us? If not clear this antiobot code from real players.

Erhm, it says it is removed... as various Anet officials stated. And to be honest and haven't seen any soundproof evidence that would support the existence a AFC, only bad luck. Loot scaling is the replacement, and you know what? I only know people who got much richer after the lootscaling then before ... odd isn't it? eg. 1000 ways to earn money in this game ... pick one.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

27 May 2008 at 16:29 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Guild Wars is a terrible choice of game if your aim is to farm for a vanity goal.

And after you have played the story through, what else is there but those vanity goals?

Before ANet had a brainfart and decided to wreck the economy and everyone's fun at the same time, GW was a lot of fun, now fun is meagre and dwindling.

Bo Fairfield

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2007

Mu Tants [MU]

Me/

27 May 2008 at 16:32 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

Farming was fun a very long time ago, when it was possible for a 55 to make 10k in 10 minutes. Now, about the best you can do is 4 account Kurzick HFFF at 19k ish/hour. My, how the times have changed...

19k an hour is far from the best you can get from farming...
Besides being mind-numbingly boring, HFFF isn't really all that profitable. UW farming is far more profitable than that... I can clear Chaos Planes in an average of 35minutes, 40 if there is a bad spawn... Assuming around 5 ectos per run, that's 41k/hour

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

27 May 2008 at 16:40 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Fairfield

19k an hour is far from the best you can get from farming...
Besides being mind-numbingly boring, HFFF isn't really all that profitable. UW farming is far more profitable than that... I can clear Chaos Planes in an average of 35minutes, 40 if there is a bad spawn... Assuming around 5 ectos per run, that's 41k/hour

Before Nightfall I could make 100k an hour.

miskav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

Mo/

27 May 2008 at 16:47 - 21

*Shrug* GW was never supposed to be about money.
But sadly, that's all there's left to do, Grind.

Kattar

EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING

Join Date: Mar 2007

SMS (lolgw2placeholder)

Me/

27 May 2008 at 17:04 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexalex

I simply lost all my income source.

This is where I knew this thread was crap.

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

27 May 2008 at 17:07 - 23

Heh. You are killing the game with farming.

oracle.delphi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

ontario, canada

Steel Beasts

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27 May 2008 at 17:32 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

If only there were something else to do ingame than farm!

/agree

i'ma casual player and i get what i get fro drops etc, not much of a farmer, well been doing the hfff thing, but that's for the title..and amber for some armor, but otherwise i do fine.

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

27 May 2008 at 17:32 - 25

Haven't seen one of these pointless gripefests in awhile.

Go play Maplestory. Might be more to your liking.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

27 May 2008 at 17:35 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Haven't seen one of these pointless gripefests in awhile.

Go play Maplestory. Might be more to your liking.

Pre-loot nerf GW was to people's liking.

slowerpoke

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2007

Cuba

27 May 2008 at 17:37 - 27

I was wondering why KFC killed the game
then i realised i read the thread title wrong

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

27 May 2008 at 17:41 - 28

Ascalon Fried Chicken -- finger lickin' good!

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

27 May 2008 at 17:46 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by rexalex

maybe i start to play again on a cracked L2 server like before GW.

Bye. Can I have your stuff.

(Sorry, it just had to be said.)

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

27 May 2008 at 18:05 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Pre-loot nerf GW was to people's liking.

And post-loot nerf it hasn't failed to sell either, what's your point?

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

27 May 2008 at 18:08 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by miskav

*Shrug* GW was never supposed to be about money.
But sadly, that's all there's left to do, Grind.

Pretty sure there's another half of the game waiting for you, it's called PvP.

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

W/

27 May 2008 at 18:08 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

And after you have played the story through, what else is there but those vanity goals?

PvP? Moving on to a different game? I've said it before and I'll probably say it again many times in the future, but if the game no longer appeals, surely you (and all others with such sentiments) can move on with a clear conscience, knowing that you've gotten your money's worth (and probably a lot more) during the time you enjoyed playing the game?

I've been playing only since the end of February, but I know I've gotten far more than my $115's (Proph GotY, Factions PE and EotN) worth of enjoyment playing through each a couple of times with different characters and will have no problems moving on should I start to get bored (no sign of that yet, except with Minister Cho's Estate and Togo & Yijo's constant babbling about stuff covered in the manual followed by their Leeroying for the rest of the mission

) or if something else happens to catch my eye.

oracle.delphi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

ontario, canada

Steel Beasts

E/

27 May 2008 at 18:08 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

Bye. Can I have your stuff.

(Sorry, it just had to be said.)

lol you have to share tho..otherwise we'll nerf you

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

27 May 2008 at 18:22 - 34

Let's see. People don't make as much cash as they used to. /agree.

But wait, GW has seen a general deflation over the last year. So your GW platinum still goes farther than it used to, so you can buy much more with much less.

The only thing that hasn't deflated is the nigh-unobtainable limited edition minis, the cost of a few titles, and a very small number of vanity skin items. None of which, with the exception of lucky, affect the game at all.

So, as has been pointed out in this and other /whine threads, people are basically complaining that Anet is not sufficiently stroking their inflated egos.

Zonzai

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

E/

27 May 2008 at 20:21 - 35

Well since everybody complained about the AFC all the time... instead we have the FIC (Farming Is Crap).

I love the irony of it. But maybe that's just because I don't farm.

Targren

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

Primeval Warlords[wuw]

R/

27 May 2008 at 20:39 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t!

But wait, GW has seen a general deflation over the last year. So your GW platinum still goes farther than it used to, so you can buy much more with much less.

The only thing that hasn't deflated is the nigh-unobtainable limited edition minis, the cost of a few titles, and a very small number of vanity skin items. None of which, with the exception of lucky, affect the game at all.

You forgot one very important thing that hasn't deflated, and affects the game a great deal.

Skills. The only real way of taking the gold out of the game, less effectively as more and more people hit the "end" where they go for titles and don't need it anymore. You can sometimes save money by buying tomes (though it boggles the mind that people will pay 1k+ for a regular monk tome?) but only if the skill is already unlocked.

I don't care about Elite armor, Destroyer weapons, and what not, but I've taken to farming for ectos in Tombs just so I can afford all the skill upgrades I want to try out. Just "pimping" my ranger for the Nightfall Endgame cost me around 20k. Doesn't seem like much, but before I dedicated one toon to just farming, I only had 40 (and spent most of the other 20k setting up the skills/equip for THAT build.)

cebalrai

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

Mature Gaming Association

Me/E

27 May 2008 at 21:04 - 37

Yeah we can't get rich quick without really trying. What was Anet thinking? They owe it to us to give us everything we want to satisfy our 9-year old instant gratification mindsets.

Right?

bhavv

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2006

27 May 2008 at 21:38 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

For most titles, you're buying stuff from other players. Since antifarm affects all players about equally, it doesn't make that big a difference.

It does make a difference because booze and sweets are fixed in price thatnks to the trader. Fireworks are likely even more expensive.

One thing that I seriously hate about people here is that they cant accept how other people enjoy playing their game. If someone used to enjoy farming as opposed to killing every enemy in the game, then how did that affect you? Not in any way whatsoever. And dont cry about the economy when you can buy everything that you need to play the game from crafters (No you dont even a +30 HP mod on your sword to play the game either).

You used to be able to play the game by farming if you enjoyed that, but they completely destroyed that fun with LS and AFC. Just like saying that you can enjoy playing the game without ever having to trade with another player.

If LS and AFC were introduced because of the economy, it is a weak excuse because you CAN obtain everthing in the game yourself if you want to without having to pay for it. Farming just made it possible for people that enjoyed buying all the nice skins and expensive armors to work towards doing that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cebalrai

Yeah we can't get rich quick without really trying.

And someone else farming solo affects you in any way how? It doesnt, just as it doesnt affect you if I H/H everything.

Fay Vert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

27 May 2008 at 22:40 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

And post-loot nerf it hasn't failed to sell either, what's your point?

erm, ask yourself, it was your point I was replying too! Doh!