Solo Shadowform Sin - Chaos Plains NM Farm
matsif
even with the running skills I keep getting wtfowned by the traps.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by kicks66
I get very few problems with rubberband. And I know exactly when rubberbanding has occured. Its just a case of knowing how it comes about and how to avoid it, like ranger bows with the z axis
Exactly, it can be anticipated... and you can tell when it happens... You see groups and they dont aggro on you (because you aren't really there), you see the mob you thought you passed through sitting in a ball not following... etc
Nittle Grasper
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dare someone do get pass this
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gold items like to drop in HM :/
dare someone do get pass this
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gold items like to drop in HM :/
MMSDome
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
~A Leprechaun~
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dare someone do get pass this
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gold items like to drop in HM :/ Regarding your first picture there is a video somewhere with a guy triggering traps without getting hit. You run kind of close to the serpent but do not touch him and then run back right away and the traps should activate. Once they are done doing their thing run past and make sure to smile.
dare someone do get pass this
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gold items like to drop in HM :/ Regarding your first picture there is a video somewhere with a guy triggering traps without getting hit. You run kind of close to the serpent but do not touch him and then run back right away and the traps should activate. Once they are done doing their thing run past and make sure to smile.
FlamingMetroid
great build, I got 6 ectos in a run ^________________^
blackknight1337
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
It can be but a lot of the time your inventory may be full by the end of chaos planes so it may not be worth it. I personally think bone pits is very boring so I never bother.
Regarding your first picture there is a video somewhere with a guy triggering traps without getting hit. You run kind of close to the serpent but do not touch him and then run back right away and the traps should activate. Once they are done doing their thing run past and make sure to smile. My inventory is never more than half full after my plains run. Though i would not reccomend doing bone pits, it is quite boring and its more efficient to do another plains run.
Also, his picture was of a complete bodyblock of the path. I have several pics myself of similar, and regardless of traps or not, you won't get past that. The behemoths actually bodyblock the amount that their size indicates. Its similar to being 8 man bodyblocked across one of the bridges in halls. No freaking way, besides shadowsteps, which most of us don't carry.
Regarding your first picture there is a video somewhere with a guy triggering traps without getting hit. You run kind of close to the serpent but do not touch him and then run back right away and the traps should activate. Once they are done doing their thing run past and make sure to smile. My inventory is never more than half full after my plains run. Though i would not reccomend doing bone pits, it is quite boring and its more efficient to do another plains run.
Also, his picture was of a complete bodyblock of the path. I have several pics myself of similar, and regardless of traps or not, you won't get past that. The behemoths actually bodyblock the amount that their size indicates. Its similar to being 8 man bodyblocked across one of the bridges in halls. No freaking way, besides shadowsteps, which most of us don't carry.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by Nittle Grasper
Sora267
I'm doing this on an Ele with 9+3+1 in Fire, 9+3 in Energy Storage (Too lazy to change armor from Raptors =P), 12 in Shadow Arts, 3 in Deadly, with Essences and Golden Eggs/Candy Corns. I'm using the Lava/MoR version.The only problems I'm having are things like the Behemoth spawns, so this works fine on an Ele. It may be more cost effective to make a Sin in the long run, though.
Anyways, how does the multiplicative stacking from the Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, and Essence of Celerity exactly work?
Anyways, how does the multiplicative stacking from the Glyph of Swiftness, Deadly Paradox, and Essence of Celerity exactly work?
The Red Messenger
if you get a really crappy behemoth spawn and cant fit thru without hitting a trap...one option is to sit there with a shortbow, interrupting all the traps he attempts for a couple minutes (since traps expire after 90 seconds) and then stroll past unharmed.
btw awesome thread im gonna try this tomorrow if i get bored enough to farm =)
btw awesome thread im gonna try this tomorrow if i get bored enough to farm =)
malko050987
Behemoths use Whirling Defense, so you might not have that much luck interrupting. I tried, and it didn't work. 
Nemesis of God
Could someone post a video?
Great guide BTW.
Great guide BTW.
Bukaj
sabeRed posted video with little diffrent skills, but usage is simillar - http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=cv525nRIytY
kicks66
Sometimes Behemoths do spawn, its just something that happens.
Occasionaly you have to waste 1k, so what for 5+ ectos a run?
Occasionaly you have to waste 1k, so what for 5+ ectos a run?
Zhoul
In one of my runs there were two charged blacknesses right in front of the "gate" leading to the chaos plains (after running the behemoths between the two final groups). They didn't even move. I went through them all using dash and they occasionally broke aggro, but they didn't go back to the place where they previously spawned.
This made things go a lil bit slower but it didn't really bother me.
This made things go a lil bit slower but it didn't really bother me.
fenix
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Originally Posted by kicks66
Sometimes Behemoths do spawn, its just something that happens.
Occasionaly you have to waste 1k, so what for 5+ ectos a run? Occasionally? 5+ ecto?
I've gotten 4 runs IN A ROW where the spawns have totally blocked the door. Before that I did 2 runs, with 2 ecto then 3 ecto. Before that, I got nothing for 2 runs.
I have lost SO much more money that I'm making. Why am I getting 3-4 Behemoths blocking EVERY SINGLE RUN?
Occasionaly you have to waste 1k, so what for 5+ ectos a run? Occasionally? 5+ ecto?
I've gotten 4 runs IN A ROW where the spawns have totally blocked the door. Before that I did 2 runs, with 2 ecto then 3 ecto. Before that, I got nothing for 2 runs.
I have lost SO much more money that I'm making. Why am I getting 3-4 Behemoths blocking EVERY SINGLE RUN?
RotteN
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Originally Posted by Zhoul
In one of my runs there were two charged blacknesses right in front of the "gate" leading to the chaos plains
this happens when your run is too slow. Normally you should pass those blacknesses while they're still patrolling.
I use [[flame djinn's haste] now instead of [[dash] and apart from the unlucky behemoth spawn it works like a charm. 40 ecto after 3 days of casual runs when i feel like it.
I use [[flame djinn's haste] now instead of [[dash] and apart from the unlucky behemoth spawn it works like a charm. 40 ecto after 3 days of casual runs when i feel like it.
fenix
Flame Djinns = 25% buff, so shouldn't Dark Escape work just as well. As for its use, how do you NOT trigger traps running over them? Every time I even try, I just die instantly from full health.
Lourens
I got a question? everytime i go trough the mountains i get owned by traps >< anyone got tips for me ??
Bukaj
Lourens - Try to avoid them from large distance as much is possible, or if there isn't any way around, use Dash of another speed buff. Then you have good chance roun out.
fenix - bad luck, i get ~5,5e per run (30min) and get blocked way every ~4 run. Sometimes it look as blocked, but you can run through
fenix - bad luck, i get ~5,5e per run (30min) and get blocked way every ~4 run. Sometimes it look as blocked, but you can run through
Mister O
I used dagger variant build for the run, cleared Chaos Plane in NM as fast as fire build, but slower in HM (I haven't tried the fire build in HM).
Later I brought along a mesmer hero with [signet of illusion][Protective bond][strength of honor][mending][watchful spirit][ether signet][blessed signet][rebirth] and cleared all the Aatxes, completed Unwanted Guests and Wrathful Spirit (I wouldn't recomment doint it because it is kinda risky and I was having a little trouble with the Stalking Night in Forgotten Vale).
Then I dumped my hero elsewhere and start my run in Chaos Plane and Bone Pit
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edited: My assassin's hp is 255
Later I brought along a mesmer hero with [signet of illusion][Protective bond][strength of honor][mending][watchful spirit][ether signet][blessed signet][rebirth] and cleared all the Aatxes, completed Unwanted Guests and Wrathful Spirit (I wouldn't recomment doint it because it is kinda risky and I was having a little trouble with the Stalking Night in Forgotten Vale).
Then I dumped my hero elsewhere and start my run in Chaos Plane and Bone Pit
.edited: My assassin's hp is 255
isamu kurosawa
I prefer to do this as a dagger sin myself.
[build prof=a/e dagger=11+1+3 shadow=10+3 crit=10+3 deadly=4+1][glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form][goldden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][critical agility][dash][/build]
That ways its infinate energy and kills fast. Can take out the aataxes if you take a prot bond hero too. My runs i tend to complete clear chamber then move onto plains. letting the hero die on the way.
[build prof=a/e dagger=11+1+3 shadow=10+3 crit=10+3 deadly=4+1][glyph of swiftness][deadly paradox][shadow form][goldden fox strike][wild strike][death blossom][critical agility][dash][/build]
That ways its infinate energy and kills fast. Can take out the aataxes if you take a prot bond hero too. My runs i tend to complete clear chamber then move onto plains. letting the hero die on the way.
The Meth
First time I tried two days ago I did fine and got 3 ectos, but today I've done it 8 times and every time I had 4 behemoths spawn in the gateway which completely blocked me beyond any hope of getting past em. Horrible luck or stealth Anet update to nerf this farm? (Yes I am paranoid)
fenix
I went outside ToA and killed 2 groups of things, dunno if that helped but the next run there was only 3 Behemoths, and they were easy to get past...
Eric Clapton
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Originally Posted by fenix
I went outside ToA and killed 2 groups of things, dunno if that helped but the next run there was only 3 Behemoths, and they were easy to get past...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with the spawns........
Lourens
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Those stupit charges blacknesses wont walk away from the entrance of the chaos planes any tips to get them moving?
1st run 3 ectos , 2nd-10th fail
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Those stupit charges blacknesses wont walk away from the entrance of the chaos planes any tips to get them moving?
1st run 3 ectos , 2nd-10th fail
fenix
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Originally Posted by Eric Clapton
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with the spawns........
It used to before loot scaling :P
Aside from the obvious drop changes, some places changed spawns...or at least it sure seemed that way.
CONSPIRACY THEORY!!
Aside from the obvious drop changes, some places changed spawns...or at least it sure seemed that way.
CONSPIRACY THEORY!!
Bukaj
Lourens - you are too slow. Must get through mountais faster. I personaly use viper's defense build, and to run use cupcake. So take FDH or spam Dash.
But this situation is doable, just lure them to position where you stand on pic. and run out them with Dash. Is possible they hit you once or twice with Shock, but you can run out, but they will follow you to the Chaos plains and then kemping here so it will be annoying lure Spectras and riders
But this situation is doable, just lure them to position where you stand on pic. and run out them with Dash. Is possible they hit you once or twice with Shock, but you can run out, but they will follow you to the Chaos plains and then kemping here so it will be annoying lure Spectras and riders
Lourens
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Originally Posted by Bukaj
Lourens - you are too slow. Must get through mountais faster. I personaly use viper's defense build, and to run use cupcake. So take FDH or spam Dash.
But this situation is doable, just lure them to position where you stand on pic. and run out them with Dash. Is possible they hit you once or twice with Shock, but you can run out, but they will follow you to the Chaos plains and then kemping here so it will be annoying lure Spectras and riders
ok thanks
But this situation is doable, just lure them to position where you stand on pic. and run out them with Dash. Is possible they hit you once or twice with Shock, but you can run out, but they will follow you to the Chaos plains and then kemping here so it will be annoying lure Spectras and riders
ok thanks
badfish34668
any other areas in the game that the original build will work? [the pheonix/inferno one]
im looking for somewhere i can do a few runs, to clear my farm code...
im looking for somewhere i can do a few runs, to clear my farm code...
They annoyed the hell out of me too til i realised you can get around them at the top when they come up the hill and wait for a sec near the first group of charged blacknesses, just before they stop hit FDH and get past the lot of them.
The Meth
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Originally Posted by fenix
I went outside ToA and killed 2 groups of things, dunno if that helped but the next run there was only 3 Behemoths, and they were easy to get past...
Well if you want to concoct wild theories, before I was entering through zin ku corridor but today I happened to be in elona so I was doing it through chantry.
EDIT: lo and behold. I went in through zin ku and only 2 spawned. Got 4 runs in, 3e, 5e, 4e and 5e.
EDIT: lo and behold. I went in through zin ku and only 2 spawned. Got 4 runs in, 3e, 5e, 4e and 5e.
blackknight1337
Well I for one don't waste time trying to clear the imagined "farm code". Back when it was clearly in existence I'd go run a mission or two on my ele before going back to smite runs.
It certainly has nothing to do with the spawns of the behemoths. I've run a mission or two on my sin now and then for the first few days I was farming, it made pretty much zero difference in drops. In fact a couple of my worst ecto runs were after mission runs, so that theory is worthless imo. And btw my top ecto run, which was 9, was after like 5 straight runs.
If you have trouble with traps, I'd bring dash instead of dark escape/flame djinns. If there is a gap big enough to fit my sin through, I'll make it with dash. 25% speedboosts are iffy for not triggering traps, and if attaxe are following you at the first behemoth spawn, trying to trigger the traps the old way will get you bodyblocked on the traps and dead. If you have trouble with beating the blackness to the entrance, its 100% doable with dash alone. Its even possible to get past them with just dash, though it can backfire on you real quick.
It certainly has nothing to do with the spawns of the behemoths. I've run a mission or two on my sin now and then for the first few days I was farming, it made pretty much zero difference in drops. In fact a couple of my worst ecto runs were after mission runs, so that theory is worthless imo. And btw my top ecto run, which was 9, was after like 5 straight runs.
If you have trouble with traps, I'd bring dash instead of dark escape/flame djinns. If there is a gap big enough to fit my sin through, I'll make it with dash. 25% speedboosts are iffy for not triggering traps, and if attaxe are following you at the first behemoth spawn, trying to trigger the traps the old way will get you bodyblocked on the traps and dead. If you have trouble with beating the blackness to the entrance, its 100% doable with dash alone. Its even possible to get past them with just dash, though it can backfire on you real quick.
Dronte
Very nice build. I tried this and got 6 ectos in my first run, then 4 ectos, after that 2. Somehow I managed to fail a lot, hard to concentrate in this heat, forgot to put SF up a few times xD
Jhadur
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Originally Posted by fenix
Occasionally? 5+ ecto?
I've gotten 4 runs IN A ROW where the spawns have totally blocked the door. Before that I did 2 runs, with 2 ecto then 3 ecto. Before that, I got nothing for 2 runs.
I have lost SO much more money that I'm making. Why am I getting 3-4 Behemoths blocking EVERY SINGLE RUN? So in your examples you've used 8 platinum on UW entrance fees and you've got 5 ecto worth say 4.6k each so 23k total. A profit of 15k and you say you're spending more than you're making?
Oh and the Behemoth spawns are just bad luck. I've had 5 runs on the trot where I couldn't get through the mountains. But I've also had 2 runs of 10e each so it works out in the end.
Jhad
I've gotten 4 runs IN A ROW where the spawns have totally blocked the door. Before that I did 2 runs, with 2 ecto then 3 ecto. Before that, I got nothing for 2 runs.
I have lost SO much more money that I'm making. Why am I getting 3-4 Behemoths blocking EVERY SINGLE RUN? So in your examples you've used 8 platinum on UW entrance fees and you've got 5 ecto worth say 4.6k each so 23k total. A profit of 15k and you say you're spending more than you're making?
Oh and the Behemoth spawns are just bad luck. I've had 5 runs on the trot where I couldn't get through the mountains. But I've also had 2 runs of 10e each so it works out in the end.
Jhad
natural_Causes
I started a Sin to farm with, and I need to know, which is better? The OP's build, or the Lavafont MoR build? By better I mean easier to use, faster. Or are they equal?
snodaard
I realy love the build, got 23 ecto's in a hour earlyer today.
10 6 and 7 ecto's in runs. got 95 ecto's now in like 7-8 hours.
10 6 and 7 ecto's in runs. got 95 ecto's now in like 7-8 hours.
Chthon
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Originally Posted by Lourens
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Those stupit charges blacknesses wont walk away from the entrance of the chaos planes any tips to get them moving?
1st run 3 ectos , 2nd-10th fail
2. If they beat you to that spot, you can still get past them like this:
- Wait until you've just recast SF so that you've got the full time to work with.
Hit a Darkness with a flatbow/longbow. (Change back to your enchanting weapon so you don't forget.)
Go up the small hill to your right. Make sure to avoid the Behemoths' traps. Go a little slow at first so that the Blacknesses come far enough that they'll decide to follow you up the hill.
Run down the other side of the hill, past the Behemoths that the Blacknesses were parked by, past the last set of Behemoths, and out onto the Chaos Plains. You don't need a run speed boost to shake the Blacknesses, but you might need one to get past the traps since you can't stop to trigger them safely. Thanks to the little loop you led them on, the Blacknessess should be far enough behind you that they'll stop chasing.
Acehigh
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Originally Posted by natural_Causes
I started a Sin to farm with, and I need to know, which is better? The OP's build, or the Lavafont MoR build? By better I mean easier to use, faster. Or are they equal?
The Lava font build seems quite a bit quicker to me.
fog_of_redoubt
I am using MoR/Lava... are there any good wall blocking techniques for the mindblades?
Destiny2097
just incase u didn't know, sup shadow arts runes are out at the run trader. in spamadan someone tried to sell one to me for 10k earlier lol. so i did some rune farming but got a sup vigor instead. then i checked trader again and saw a sup shadow arts so bought it quickly, a second later...it was gone (got it for 800g at trader).
ive almost finished preparing my new sin now, but my question is if its worth using a sup vigor rune for this farm, to get past the traps etc.?
ive almost finished preparing my new sin now, but my question is if its worth using a sup vigor rune for this farm, to get past the traps etc.?