I play mostly monk and warrior in PVE and I find that as more and more time passes, I've relegated myself to playing one "general" build in PVE. Same goes for my heros.
I think I find it more of a "hassle" nowadays to experiment with different builds in PVE considering how easy it's become.
So how often do you find yourself experimenting with builds in PVE? Can you even remember the last time you changed up your PVE builds?
PVE Build Diversity - How Often Do You Change PVE Builds?
korcan
Ekelon
I change my build according to what I'm doing. If I'm just running through the campaign, I'll change it respectively to what monsters are there. It makes it more fun to be able to spec against your PvE opponents!
RiKio
When it gets nerfed.
Thats why since GWEN I only play the same build, with some minor changes for certain areas.
Thats why since GWEN I only play the same build, with some minor changes for certain areas.
Funeral
I go SS + necrosis nearly all the time. The other 6 skills I change depending on the enemies I will counter (but often I don't need to do many changes). =/
Longasc
After a certain point you know what to do in each area. The incentive to try something new goes down after a while.
I blame it to the fact that the challenge is often rather low, and that there is no point to find an even better build to make it even easier if its already a sure win.
I blame it to the fact that the challenge is often rather low, and that there is no point to find an even better build to make it even easier if its already a sure win.
Richardt
It really depends on the area. I normally have a "core" build with one or two skills that I'm able to rotate in/out depending on the area that I'm in.
For instance if I'm visiting an area with a lot summoned creatures, I'll rotate one my spear attacks for [holy spear]. If I'm fighting in an area where the enemy monks like to run away, [you move like a dwarf] is very handy.
So really, the bare bones of my build rarely changes, but my various utility skills get changed all the time.
For instance if I'm visiting an area with a lot summoned creatures, I'll rotate one my spear attacks for [holy spear]. If I'm fighting in an area where the enemy monks like to run away, [you move like a dwarf] is very handy.
So really, the bare bones of my build rarely changes, but my various utility skills get changed all the time.
Targren
Depends on the character. My Sassy is generally a spiker, so I don't see a lot of need to change the build (other than swapping out utilities, [Shadow Refuge]/[Way of perfection] for [Assassin's Remedy] against condition-heavy areas, for instance).
The Ranger gets shuffled almost daily, depending on where I am and what I'm fighting, and with whom. For H/H in general campaign, I'll take a Splinter Barrage build, but if I'm partied with sentient damage dealers, I'll go BHA or other support...
The Ranger gets shuffled almost daily, depending on where I am and what I'm fighting, and with whom. For H/H in general campaign, I'll take a Splinter Barrage build, but if I'm partied with sentient damage dealers, I'll go BHA or other support...
Owik Gall
I've been tweaking up my build since half a year ago. I always make at least a little change to them in trying to improve them. That's generally the reason why I change them up. Improvement.
Pyra Fade
the most i change my builds are when doin various farms. as far as general PvE, i was a creature of the Searing Flames cult for so long... i dabbled in Mind Blast for a bit, but found the DPS lacking. Then when i went through GWEN i ran arround with Blinding Surge, which was fun.
Recently though, i am happy to say Ether Renewal with accompanying Lightning Hammer, Lightning Orb, and Blinding Flash; has replaced Searing Flames as my general PvE build. And i am very happy
I think as far as my build evolution, its my heros that show it best.
From LoD Tahlk, SF Zhed, and D Slash Koss;
to Restoration Morrigan, Barrage Jin, and WoH Tahlk;
then to Sabway;
and finally i am now running with my favorite 3 heros: HB Tahlk, BHA Jin, and Jagged Olias.
Recently though, i am happy to say Ether Renewal with accompanying Lightning Hammer, Lightning Orb, and Blinding Flash; has replaced Searing Flames as my general PvE build. And i am very happy
I think as far as my build evolution, its my heros that show it best.
From LoD Tahlk, SF Zhed, and D Slash Koss;
to Restoration Morrigan, Barrage Jin, and WoH Tahlk;
then to Sabway;
and finally i am now running with my favorite 3 heros: HB Tahlk, BHA Jin, and Jagged Olias.
RhanoctJocosa
you can change your skills?
MrSlayer
Wow no bitching about Ursan yet?
*sits back and waits*
*sits back and waits*
Zonzai
OP - I hear what you are saying, partly. There are times when I don't really want to deal with builds. But I have so many saved builds by now that I don't have to anyway. I usually wiki whatever I am doing, check out the mobs and read any tips and then choose an already made build based on that.
If that's too much to do I usually go play something else taht doesn't require as much thought. I've been playing Arcanum again lately. That game was so underrated.
Longasc - As far as challenge goes, it isn't always that low. There are certain dungeons that even on normal mode are challenging enough to be engaging enough for at least one run through.
If that's too much to do I usually go play something else taht doesn't require as much thought. I've been playing Arcanum again lately. That game was so underrated.
Longasc - As far as challenge goes, it isn't always that low. There are certain dungeons that even on normal mode are challenging enough to be engaging enough for at least one run through.
Kusandaa
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Originally Posted by MrSlayer
Wow no bitching about Ursan yet?
*sits back and waits* |
But yeah, I change my bars a lot... except my warrior; she's is almost a perma-DSlash. Oh and my mesmer. 'Cause I'm crap with mesmer builds.
Esan
When I was title grinding, I had things like Barrage, Splinter Weapon, "Finish Him!" and Pain Inverter stapled to my bar. Now that I have done everything there is to do in PvE, I'm playing much more experimental builds. It is really very hard to be innovative in this late day, but there is still the occasional surprising skill interaction (eg. triple necro Ether Renewal sacspike, look it up on PvXWiki).
Stolen Souls
I change mine often...mostly due to boredom. Using the exact same bar 100% of the time would drive me nuts.
Rexion
don't feel like changing it....
the only time I run anything besides my little WoH hybrid build is for Alliance runs through The Deep, Urgoz, DoA, or FOW/UW.
the only time I run anything besides my little WoH hybrid build is for Alliance runs through The Deep, Urgoz, DoA, or FOW/UW.
Age
I will change mine around when needed or just a few skills.I don't bother doing the same with heros though.
Tyla
When it gets nerfed. I want my skill updates QQ
Neo Nugget
When i get bored of it. Otherwise if it's something I like to play, i'll play it as long as I want.
Shakti
Often. My templates section is endlessly long at this point. Too many skills too few slots lol. I'd get bored with no change, so while there are "standby" ones I use alot (mm, ss, sf ele, earth ele, prot monk) that are kinda utility builds useful (mostly) everywhere, I change often to keep from sleep questingt. My poor mesmer must have an identity crisis I change her bar so often
Jenn
I change my build according to what I'm doing. I really, really dislike when people say "what's a good build for xxx class?" or post, "Is this a good build for xclassx?" because there is no "One Build." If you don't know what types of enemies are in an area, you should always be referencing your teammates, or guildwiki. It will tell you there what the enemies have, and with that information, you can create a build.
An SF ele will get owned in a zone where half the enemies have no flesh.
Monks will waste 1-2 skill slots on hex removal if they're in an area with no critical hexes.
A MM is useless in an area that has few exploitable corpses.
BHA rangers amongst melees are lololdumb because healsig will not cast more slowly!
Point is - change your build, because it will make you more useful, and PvE a lot easier.
An SF ele will get owned in a zone where half the enemies have no flesh.
Monks will waste 1-2 skill slots on hex removal if they're in an area with no critical hexes.
A MM is useless in an area that has few exploitable corpses.
BHA rangers amongst melees are lololdumb because healsig will not cast more slowly!
Point is - change your build, because it will make you more useful, and PvE a lot easier.
bhavv
I dont ever need to change my build because I can just use Ursan for everything.
(sarcasm).
(sarcasm).
Squishy ftw
I change builds when:
- I know there's a specific counter for whatever it is I'll be facing
- I grow tired of a certain build(like d-slash..been ages since I last used that)
- Key skills get toned down
- Similar skills get buffed
- I know there's a specific counter for whatever it is I'll be facing
- I grow tired of a certain build(like d-slash..been ages since I last used that)
- Key skills get toned down
- Similar skills get buffed
Painbringer
I change me and my heroes all the time. It livens the game up. Sometimes just to see how the weapon I just found looks on a character. I have dervs running around with daggers and monks running around with scythes. One of my favorites is Warrior running shadow arts. Love it when Koss rushes in and pops right out poisoning everything. IMO I can always fall back to known builds if I start failing. I like to try out new team dynamics designing a whole team around one certain aspect. Good fun
Aldric
I change my build most missions/quests . My rangers is currently running the following the most frequent :-
R/P Degen/Damage
R/D Ebon Dust Aura
R/Me BHA
Also occasionally using :-
R/Rt Splinter Barrage (not so often since it gets boring)
Ursan (Mainly used for elite skill capping)
These builds all each have probably 5 or 6 fixed skills and the last few get swapped around dependant on the areas most annoying inhabitants.
Playing the same build over and over would just bore the crap out of me plus it just makes you less useful in a group.
R/P Degen/Damage
R/D Ebon Dust Aura
R/Me BHA
Also occasionally using :-
R/Rt Splinter Barrage (not so often since it gets boring)
Ursan (Mainly used for elite skill capping)
These builds all each have probably 5 or 6 fixed skills and the last few get swapped around dependant on the areas most annoying inhabitants.
Playing the same build over and over would just bore the crap out of me plus it just makes you less useful in a group.
oliverrr1989
I play a different build everytime i do something in NM
as for HM, i have a few reliable ones...
and of course...
Ursan for elite/HM PUGging...(whats a derv to do eh?)
as for HM, i have a few reliable ones...
and of course...
Ursan for elite/HM PUGging...(whats a derv to do eh?)
Kook~NBK~
For my main character, I've got one build I use for most everything. I set it up with 6 all-purpose skills and 2 slots for skills to meet specific needs. I've also got several other skill bars I use for specific missions/area (killing Shiro, etc.)
There are also times when I switch out my Elite for Ursan when my friends and I are in the mood to rampage our way through something. OR I'll go Ursan for PUGing in places where the "trinity" parties once excluded everyone else.
There are also times when I switch out my Elite for Ursan when my friends and I are in the mood to rampage our way through something. OR I'll go Ursan for PUGing in places where the "trinity" parties once excluded everyone else.
isamu kurosawa
As my primary is a mesmer i tend to change builds quite often.
On other characters i will use the same builds or a team build with my alliance while doing elite areas/hard mode.
Playing any other area's i just roll with what i feel like at the time be it a scythe sin, spear/pet ranger, PvE thumper, Air spiker, icy veins necro, toxic chill necro or sword para (not the best but realy fun, and my para looks cool with a basic elonian gladius).
I do Hm/Elite area's for the team aspect with my alliance, i do everything else for fun.
Thats why i love Ritualists, they can play a large variety of roles and still be effective.
On other characters i will use the same builds or a team build with my alliance while doing elite areas/hard mode.
Playing any other area's i just roll with what i feel like at the time be it a scythe sin, spear/pet ranger, PvE thumper, Air spiker, icy veins necro, toxic chill necro or sword para (not the best but realy fun, and my para looks cool with a basic elonian gladius).
I do Hm/Elite area's for the team aspect with my alliance, i do everything else for fun.
Thats why i love Ritualists, they can play a large variety of roles and still be effective.
credit
I change up my monk bars constantly, depending on my mood I guess.
cosyfiep
depends on what profession I am playing, where I am playing in and how well I know that profession.
for example.
I have a rit, I love to play them...I dont change them too much (unless some new skills are introduced..go agony!..) so my skill bar hasnt changed much---I do change out a skill or two (like lightbringers) for certain areas but otherwise no change.
now my paragon I have yet to get the hang of so I have no set skill bar same goes for my warrior and my new necro who is going to be an sv necro/rit...some new combos to think about and since he hasnt capped sv yet other skills to use until he gets there--.
my ele I have played since my first day, but some areas just dont need a fire ele so I change it to earth or air (dont do water much anylonger)...some areas dont do well with long casting spell (no MS here!) so I change that out for a different one...some areas have large mobs so I put in a better aoe or something that will kill things that want to melee with me..etc....
so it all depends.
for example.
I have a rit, I love to play them...I dont change them too much (unless some new skills are introduced..go agony!..) so my skill bar hasnt changed much---I do change out a skill or two (like lightbringers) for certain areas but otherwise no change.
now my paragon I have yet to get the hang of so I have no set skill bar same goes for my warrior and my new necro who is going to be an sv necro/rit...some new combos to think about and since he hasnt capped sv yet other skills to use until he gets there--.
my ele I have played since my first day, but some areas just dont need a fire ele so I change it to earth or air (dont do water much anylonger)...some areas dont do well with long casting spell (no MS here!) so I change that out for a different one...some areas have large mobs so I put in a better aoe or something that will kill things that want to melee with me..etc....
so it all depends.
StormDragonZ
Every two months I check to see what I've been using and then really take a look at how I plan to set up dealing damage, using spells in a certain order... or just whatever makes things easy for me. Having five characters that all gets used just as equal to each other takes a good amount of time to check and recheck.
Shayne Hawke
For my main ranger, I use a general build with BHA that used to be almost the same build with Punishing Shot. I changed that when I started hunting elite skills from casters and moved to HM. I also have a running build, a minor template for helping with HFFF, a HM Raptor farming build, and a build in the wings until I get the right equipment for it.
My Rit, which I almost never play anymore, has an old Ritual Lord build and a minion bomber build. My Warrior, now turned into storage, is still using her old build for IDS farming. My Elementalist, also storage, is still using an Ether Renewal build (made before the most recent change to the elite) with Fire Magic and Maelstrom.
The only builds (or players) that I continuously change are my heroes.
My Rit, which I almost never play anymore, has an old Ritual Lord build and a minion bomber build. My Warrior, now turned into storage, is still using her old build for IDS farming. My Elementalist, also storage, is still using an Ether Renewal build (made before the most recent change to the elite) with Fire Magic and Maelstrom.
The only builds (or players) that I continuously change are my heroes.
MarlinBackna
I generally change characters AND change builds. I tend to get bored easily, so I change what and who I'm playing semi-often, especially in PvP (RA and AB, mind you). Lately, I've been playing my Warrior using a nice Dslash build to work on HM books, but I saw several nice Derv builds recently that I want to try, so I think I will get into that soon.
la_cabra_de_vida
Sometimes, when im playing ursan, which is always. I like to have a choice between res chant and rebirth, it really depends what mood im in.
elevenfifty5
I Think I have a skill Template With Empty Optional Slots For nearly every elite For my primary profession (My templates folder is ridiculous.)
I am always changing my bars. It seems however when I pug I do not meet people who change skills. Its like a conspiracy.
I am always changing my bars. It seems however when I pug I do not meet people who change skills. Its like a conspiracy.
sph0nz
I run essentially whatever I feel like running in normal mode pve since it's so easy, but there isn't much of a point in constantly changing builds for general pve since many builds do fine throughout the game. However, when I'm real bored I'll change to a different build, even in hard mode regardless of how effective it may be, such as changing from a SY DSlash spammer to an Earthshaker warrior. It's also worth mentioning that I herohench my way through the game.
BlackSephir
Depends on the area. And what I'm doing.
MsMassacre
While I tend to keep my heroes static, iIt's very rare for to play two missions/zones/quests in a row without changing my own build.
Until I try every build against every monster, how can I say I've really played the game? It's not all about titles, you know.
Until I try every build against every monster, how can I say I've really played the game? It's not all about titles, you know.
Div
Why do you need to change skills when you have one skill to rule them all! Any changes just means you're running a suboptimal build.
jon0592
Ursan, or Icy Veins nuker
wanting to try the N/A AP/MoP nuker
wanting to try the N/A AP/MoP nuker