I think it's just a matter of time moreso then it is a matter of whether or not it's going to happen. I won't go into how disappointed everyone was when we all discovered the most rare and perfect weapons in game won't mean/unlock jack in GW2. Those beautiful dual negative dmg sheilds, Q7-8 crystalines, +12-15% dmg always swords/axes, etc. Big pooch screw on that one on them not being able to be somehow kept/recognized, oh well I guess.....
So, lots of people are beginning to slow down their game play and sell their rare weapons to deck out their HOM's with what will mean/do something in the next chapter.
GW2 is roughly what, a year+ away? Prices are always dropping on everything you still can get to drop, but I'm talking about the rarest of the rares - and nerfs that still fetch big coin when they change hands. One day I'm expecting the nerfed items I have left to be worth almost zilch.
So I guess I have a couple questions for discussion:
1. "When" will the bottom really fall out of rare weapons in your opinion? What time frame or happening will put them finally over the edge (like the announcement of the GW2 release date maybe?)
2. Do you think nerfed weapons with value will hold a moderately strong value since ANet announced GW1 servers WOULD NOT be shut down upon the release of GW2? Will there still be a moderate number of GW1 players?
I know this is a tough thing to predict, and it will happen, it's just tough to guess "when."
The *Rare* Weapons Market "Crash" - When?
Siadena
Kerwyn Nasilan
It crashed with release or EotN and Z chest kkthxbye
TheSackMaster
Most "Rare" items crashed when EoTn and Z chest came out, like Kerwyn said, but the "Super rare" items like the R8 crystallines and the Unconditional's will never drop in price imo because there will always be some collector searching for said item. Also, most people with these items know that they will mean S@#t when Gw 2 comes out
Mister_Smiley
Well there is also that factor that they are going to be adding in new weapons to the Hall, so till we find out what they are, we will just have to wait.
1)won't happen
2)yes
1)won't happen
2)yes
Curbsplitter
I will always keep my Q8. I regret selling my Kunnavang, i won't make the same mistake with my sword.
I MP I
Most stuff in this game is pretty worthless already. Only unconditional damage weapons will retain any sort of value. Even if you can afford one good luck getting one as most are on inactive accounts and/or customized. I'll be salvaging my crystallines when GW2 comes out.
As for whether GW1 will retain a moderate amount of it's player base, I highly doubt it. Very few people stick around for games that have little replay value after a new and entirely different version of the game has been put out. Right now you can grind for some titles do some pvp before you purchase GW2 which is pretty much the only replay value it offers. After GW2 comes out, there won't really be much to do for those who have already gotten their fill of GW1 except to move on. People that are left playing with all the ultra rare, expensive, vanity weapons won't be able to sell them since the wealthy crowd will likely have moved on with no intention of coming back.
Take it how you will, this is what I predict will happen.
As for whether GW1 will retain a moderate amount of it's player base, I highly doubt it. Very few people stick around for games that have little replay value after a new and entirely different version of the game has been put out. Right now you can grind for some titles do some pvp before you purchase GW2 which is pretty much the only replay value it offers. After GW2 comes out, there won't really be much to do for those who have already gotten their fill of GW1 except to move on. People that are left playing with all the ultra rare, expensive, vanity weapons won't be able to sell them since the wealthy crowd will likely have moved on with no intention of coming back.
Take it how you will, this is what I predict will happen.
Shayne Hawke
The only "rare" items that are worth keeping IMO are +15% unconditional items. Nothing else of that "status" makes it through to GW2 in any way, shape, or form, so GG on getting nowhere.
1. I never cared for the market, because it immediately became something that I couldn't jump into with my gaming style after the game had been out for +6 months.
2. When GW2 comes out, very little about GW will matter to me. The only thing I'll be worried about is something happening in GW that makes a reward in GW2 simpler. "Rare" weapons won't be a part of that, ever.
1. I never cared for the market, because it immediately became something that I couldn't jump into with my gaming style after the game had been out for +6 months.
2. When GW2 comes out, very little about GW will matter to me. The only thing I'll be worried about is something happening in GW that makes a reward in GW2 simpler. "Rare" weapons won't be a part of that, ever.
Dallcingi
1. Rare weapons will be worth nothing when everyone moves on to GW2 or just stops playing. No one would want them anymore ...
2. Do you think nerfed weapons with value will hold a moderately strong value since ANet announced GW1 servers WOULD NOT be shut down upon the release of GW2?
They will "hold value" (cause they will never drop of course) but no one would want them cause there is no use, the player base will be diminishing and it will be pointless to have those items. Everyone would be in GW2 or gone. GW1 will be a ghost game after at least a year since GW2 is released IMO. The only reason anyone would play GW1 is for HoM or if Anet adds more content for GW1 that will reap benefits for GW2... but I doubt that will happen cause why focus on a dead horse huh?
2. Do you think nerfed weapons with value will hold a moderately strong value since ANet announced GW1 servers WOULD NOT be shut down upon the release of GW2?
They will "hold value" (cause they will never drop of course) but no one would want them cause there is no use, the player base will be diminishing and it will be pointless to have those items. Everyone would be in GW2 or gone. GW1 will be a ghost game after at least a year since GW2 is released IMO. The only reason anyone would play GW1 is for HoM or if Anet adds more content for GW1 that will reap benefits for GW2... but I doubt that will happen cause why focus on a dead horse huh?
fenix
Inscriptions broke the market. Being able to get PERFECT modded weapons as regular drops (I mean like 15^50 etc) and being able to change the damage mods from AWFUL to perfect as easily as you can, made it pointless to buy NON-inscribable items, so the prices dropped heaps as no one would pay the normal market prices.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
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Inscriptions broke the market. Being able to get PERFECT modded weapons as regular drops (I mean like 15^50 etc) and being able to change the damage mods from AWFUL to perfect as easily as you can, made it pointless to buy NON-inscribable items, so the prices dropped heaps as no one would pay the normal market prices.
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fog_of_redoubt
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I think it's just a matter of time moreso then it is a matter of whether or not it's going to happen. I won't go into how disappointed everyone was when we all discovered the most rare and perfect weapons in game won't mean/unlock jack in GW2.
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There has always been a strategy of no one having an advantage over another. Someone can start GW2, and be on a lvl playing field with a 4 year GW1 player with MAX titles, and a full hall. If not, they would deter new players from buying GW2, so do they cater to your ego, or to the wallet of the new player?
Empraim Wainwright
When inscriptions was introduced in GW:N, a lot of items lost their value.
Then came GW:EN and the Zaishen chest...
...I'd say the market have crashed a long time ago.
Nothing is really worth 100K+ anymore, since every one knows GW1 is ending, the only "real" value in game atm is to fill the HoM and get ready for GW2.
...I'd get rid of anything I could get a ton of gold for, so I could fill my HoM.
Then came GW:EN and the Zaishen chest...
...I'd say the market have crashed a long time ago.
Nothing is really worth 100K+ anymore, since every one knows GW1 is ending, the only "real" value in game atm is to fill the HoM and get ready for GW2.
...I'd get rid of anything I could get a ton of gold for, so I could fill my HoM.
I Conjure Ho I
no doubt the weapons market will crash. i don't know it would be interesting to come back in a year and half and see what happened.
kerpall
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Wow, you are kidding right? There will be NO carry over to GW2 of anything that you can "USE" in game... no weapons, no armor, no titles (ie, wisdom, lucky, etc), nothing... You most likely will have a version of your GW1 HoM you can bring people in to see... Nothing more
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There will be wearable titles from you gw1 HoM for your gw2 character. As for "bonus" visuals that will give no significant benefit, other than that you are "veteran". These visuals have not been released (unless i just missed them), but i would imagine emotes, minipets, maybe even a useless "mount" that does nothing for you. Or it could give you simply a maxed weapon skin, that is customised. If maxed weapons are as rare in gw2 as gw1, we will have a super huge advantage to start with O.O (i'm actually being sarcastic).
RavagerOfDreams
inscriptions were baed
ursan was also terribaed
dunno the zchest was ok bad but not horrible coulda been worse tbh
ursan was also terribaed
dunno the zchest was ok bad but not horrible coulda been worse tbh
Hyper Cutter
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Red Sonya
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I think prices will start dropping once Beta testing of GW2 starts. Then after time they will increase again.
1. If its as everyone here predicts...that nobody will be playing the game then I have to beg to differ there will be a few, and that few will not be churning out the rares that the masses are now.
2.To assume that nobody would be playing is naive in itself. People have younger siblings and children I'm sure that will be inheriting the game no longer played. Another point I would add is Diablo 2... Still servers 8 years later.( and to a game I might add that can be played offline )
Everyones assumption that the game is going to die is just wrong. Maybe in their view its dead but others will be there playing it.
the uber rares you speak of can only go up in value til the day Anet announces its closing the servers on GW which I dont think will happen anytime soon.
1. If its as everyone here predicts...that nobody will be playing the game then I have to beg to differ there will be a few, and that few will not be churning out the rares that the masses are now.
2.To assume that nobody would be playing is naive in itself. People have younger siblings and children I'm sure that will be inheriting the game no longer played. Another point I would add is Diablo 2... Still servers 8 years later.( and to a game I might add that can be played offline )
Everyones assumption that the game is going to die is just wrong. Maybe in their view its dead but others will be there playing it.
the uber rares you speak of can only go up in value til the day Anet announces its closing the servers on GW which I dont think will happen anytime soon.
FireFox
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Also, increase gold drops with factions was bad too.
ruffenredie
Rightuos is right, to simply assume that everyone will stop playing GW just because GW2 is out is naive. Not everyone plays online games in the same way or for the same goals.
Add to that the fact that many people are still just starting GW new, they will still have lots of content to play before they are through with the game. Not everyone has to buy the newest game as soon as it comes out, the example of Diablo 2 is a good one. There will still be players of GW for as long as they maintain the servers.
Its the same thing assuming that everyone plays to create stuff now for their future GW2 characters, many GW players may never go over to GW2 and even then they won't take it up immediately. Many players will still just be playing GW for the fun of GW and nothing more.
WHat this will mean on prices depends on what people do who do shift over to GW2. If more of them decide to sell off items, keep them, salvage them etc.
Add to that the fact that many people are still just starting GW new, they will still have lots of content to play before they are through with the game. Not everyone has to buy the newest game as soon as it comes out, the example of Diablo 2 is a good one. There will still be players of GW for as long as they maintain the servers.
Its the same thing assuming that everyone plays to create stuff now for their future GW2 characters, many GW players may never go over to GW2 and even then they won't take it up immediately. Many players will still just be playing GW for the fun of GW and nothing more.
WHat this will mean on prices depends on what people do who do shift over to GW2. If more of them decide to sell off items, keep them, salvage them etc.
kagenuma
well without new areas-maps n story (not titles anymore thx) gw will be just a place for memories, i wont say for new players after GW2 since - imagine yourself standing infront of 2 games,one old 3+years other few weeks with uber cool graphic ect ect! what will u chose?(the price wont be such a deal,sides ppl buying games coz they r NEW,not many ppl in shop will care about 3+years old game). yes not everyone but MOST of ppl will buy GW2 which is good for anet.
And if GW2 wont be really good go back to GW?dont think so,just go play other games. Even now ppl screaming events sucks n anet doesnt put anything enjoyable anymore. And so im not telling GW will be gone but became a small comunity for few ppl wanting to 1.just play whatever 2.grind for GW2 3.wanna try a game which some friend gave em for free (has GW2 now muhaha) = not mmo anymore,more or less single player game.
Who knows...im sure anet wont let gw die so easily ..but naturaly put all they have into gw2 n so the players =b
And for rare weapons - just ppl colecting rare weapons will care about u having rare weapon, other wont even reco them(they want tormented weapons!).N these ppl that knows whats going on already played long enought to have more or less all they need - n go to gw2. i would sell ~ cheers
And if GW2 wont be really good go back to GW?dont think so,just go play other games. Even now ppl screaming events sucks n anet doesnt put anything enjoyable anymore. And so im not telling GW will be gone but became a small comunity for few ppl wanting to 1.just play whatever 2.grind for GW2 3.wanna try a game which some friend gave em for free (has GW2 now muhaha) = not mmo anymore,more or less single player game.
Who knows...im sure anet wont let gw die so easily ..but naturaly put all they have into gw2 n so the players =b
And for rare weapons - just ppl colecting rare weapons will care about u having rare weapon, other wont even reco them(they want tormented weapons!).N these ppl that knows whats going on already played long enought to have more or less all they need - n go to gw2. i would sell ~ cheers
Malice Black
Rarity died with Factions pretty much.
Crom The Pale
The market crash is happening every day, just not in the manner most expect.
Many of those rarest of items are simply no longer for sale. The high end traders are dwindling in numbers.
As the value of rare items falls so to does the incentive to sell such items, added to that is the fact that fewer new rare items are being discovered so the chances of replacing an item you sell with something better is slim.
It is getting to the piont where a single high end item will change hands 4-5 times including returning to the orriginal seller.
Many of those rarest of items are simply no longer for sale. The high end traders are dwindling in numbers.
As the value of rare items falls so to does the incentive to sell such items, added to that is the fact that fewer new rare items are being discovered so the chances of replacing an item you sell with something better is slim.
It is getting to the piont where a single high end item will change hands 4-5 times including returning to the orriginal seller.
Jiao Yang
Every new skin which is brought into the game now starts to devaluate immediately. There are very few items which hold thier value. This is because ANet have tried to make the rare items more accessable to people who before, wouldn't be able to afford them.
Luckily ANet don't seem to be touching the rare minipets atm, because they are both hold thier value, and are useful for the HoM.
Luckily ANet don't seem to be touching the rare minipets atm, because they are both hold thier value, and are useful for the HoM.
Pleikki
Bottom Came for inscriptions ages ago i guess for Non inscs nerfs etc .. never.
Silverblad3
Have to agree with several peoples posts here, the crash is happening and will only continue to do so. Several reasons why including GW2, folks spending money on titles so they have less disposable gold to spend on 'luxury' items that will be worth next to nothing when GW2 comes out and thsoe who are doing titles have less time to actually go buy items that they really do not need.
It also takes longer for folks to get the gold they need due to farming issues (hate using nerf).
I see lots of people try to sell but no takers.
So 'Yes' there will be a crash and it is happening and will continue to do so, times are hard.
Whilst so many folks are title hunting if there was some way to help reduce costs of some of the titles then you may see buying increase due to more gold available, but when several titles cost 2000k it is a lot to depart with. Well done to those who did have the capital in the beginning and managed to get the titles.
Silver
It also takes longer for folks to get the gold they need due to farming issues (hate using nerf).
I see lots of people try to sell but no takers.
So 'Yes' there will be a crash and it is happening and will continue to do so, times are hard.
Whilst so many folks are title hunting if there was some way to help reduce costs of some of the titles then you may see buying increase due to more gold available, but when several titles cost 2000k it is a lot to depart with. Well done to those who did have the capital in the beginning and managed to get the titles.
Silver
Alia Stormkiller
Frankly I dont care. I have always either went out and earned what I wanted or searched the market enough and found it cheap.
I see no reason to be able to take any weapon/item from GW to GW2.
I see no reason to be able to take any weapon/item from GW to GW2.
SimonTheMaster
Market crashed when Furnace was introduce with the Greens...
Im Unbreakable
alot of old schoolers that i chat with on a daily basis are intent on not even purchaseing GW2, i think that the number of ppl in gw 1 will either relativly remain the same or even go up, with the release of GW2 they will proabably cut the price on gw1 so ppl who couldnt afford the big down payment on the game with no monthly fees will run out and buy it. not to mention, cant you put a wepon set in your HOM? largely i dont think the prices on those weps will change. at least not by much. just my opinion 
romeus petrus
Rare items prices have already crashed.
Ultra rare item prices will never crash.
Thist kinda sums it up.
Ultra rare item prices will never crash.
Thist kinda sums it up.
DarkGanni
Nothing is Rare Anymore in the current game stats imo, As Romeus said only the ultra rare items are the ones still keeping up, mainly because they can't be found anymore.
Yawgmoth
Even after GW2 release there will still be players playing GW1. Some of those players will still have some big money and the buying power to pay for the last few rarities that will remain on active accounts.
So unless something really terrible happens (again) the market for the uber rares should remain in it's current state.
So unless something really terrible happens (again) the market for the uber rares should remain in it's current state.