Hi
I have been playing my paragon, and i find that there is no shield with leadership req. Most builds i use mostly have spear mastery and leadership skills. I tend to have both of them maxed and i cant meet the attribute for command/motivation shields.
My suggestion is Anet to make shields for Paragons which need Leadership req.
Leadership req Paragon Shields
Master Mayhem
evilseabass
This has been requested many times, and I agree
/signed
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phan
Fist give us them 300helms with feathers ;
keke thx
keke thx
Steboy93
/signed
Yes please
Yes please
Tyla
Aren't Paragons imba enough?!
You don't need a high rank in Command for "GftE!" to be effective as energy management.
You don't need a high rank in Command for "GftE!" to be effective as energy management.
English Warrior
/notsigned if this happens i want another attrib shield for my warrior :P and daggers under deadly arts.
Loxomira
Anet should change strength shields to tactics.
Taisayacho
/signed, if we take out either motivation or command ones. We must keep the balance 
Although, pretty much every paragon build uses Leadership, while not every warrior uses strength, if you get what I'm saying.
on a side note, I also want wings on paragons while we're at it
. The picture on the box was deceiving, I thought I'd get wings when I first made one! (that's actually why I made one in the first place :S)
Although, pretty much every paragon build uses Leadership, while not every warrior uses strength, if you get what I'm saying.
on a side note, I also want wings on paragons while we're at it
. The picture on the box was deceiving, I thought I'd get wings when I first made one! (that's actually why I made one in the first place :S)
ArkNayarr
I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.
An item or two can be added for most attributes that don't have anything pretty easily.
Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot.
Deadly/Shadow Arts can have unique two handed weapons.
Swordsmanship linked Blocking Swords. This works for Axes too.
They could introduce some new mechanics with these as well. Something like a Battle Horn adding 10% or so to Shout Durations, or a Standard giving a 10% HSR in a Ward like the Ebon Standard does, except all the time. It might be difficult for them to be balanced, but I think they would be really neat and add a lot of interesting PvP and PvE options. Although I'm certain most people here will complain...
...oh well, there's always GW 2.
An item or two can be added for most attributes that don't have anything pretty easily.
Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot.
Deadly/Shadow Arts can have unique two handed weapons.
Swordsmanship linked Blocking Swords. This works for Axes too.
They could introduce some new mechanics with these as well. Something like a Battle Horn adding 10% or so to Shout Durations, or a Standard giving a 10% HSR in a Ward like the Ebon Standard does, except all the time. It might be difficult for them to be balanced, but I think they would be really neat and add a lot of interesting PvP and PvE options. Although I'm certain most people here will complain...
...oh well, there's always GW 2.
Taisayacho
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Originally Posted by ArkNayarr
I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.
... Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot. |
How wrong I was.
Although I still like the focuses on paragons idea.
MagmaRed
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Too many weapons and attributes would need to be considered and/or added to keep balance the same for all classes.
Bows with Expertise, Wilderness Survival and Beast Mastery requirements.
Daggers with Critical Strikes, Deadly Arts and Shadow Arts requirements.
Scythes with Mysticism, Earth Prayers and Wind Prayers requirements.
And don't forget mods. Dagger Handle of Mastery increases Dagger Mastery attribute. Why can't we have +1 Deadly Arts, Shadow Arts, and Critical Strikes bonuses? Just consider all the weapons, attributes and mods that start becoming desired if this gets added.
Too many weapons and attributes would need to be considered and/or added to keep balance the same for all classes.
Bows with Expertise, Wilderness Survival and Beast Mastery requirements.
Daggers with Critical Strikes, Deadly Arts and Shadow Arts requirements.
Scythes with Mysticism, Earth Prayers and Wind Prayers requirements.
And don't forget mods. Dagger Handle of Mastery increases Dagger Mastery attribute. Why can't we have +1 Deadly Arts, Shadow Arts, and Critical Strikes bonuses? Just consider all the weapons, attributes and mods that start becoming desired if this gets added.
Div
I think the whole point was to discourage pure spear/leadership bars.
la_cabra_de_vida
Paragons are broken enough.
kullwarrior
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Originally Posted by ArkNayarr
I like the idea but I don't think it should be Shields.
An item or two can be added for most attributes that don't have anything pretty easily. Leadership can have Horns or Standards (Flags) that take up a shield slot. Deadly/Shadow Arts can have unique two handed weapons. Swordsmanship linked Blocking Swords. This works for Axes too. They could introduce some new mechanics with these as well. Something like a Battle Horn adding 10% or so to Shout Durations, or a Standard giving a 10% HSR in a Ward like the Ebon Standard does, except all the time. It might be difficult for them to be balanced, but I think they would be really neat and add a lot of interesting PvP and PvE options. Although I'm certain most people here will complain... ...oh well, there's always GW 2. |
Master Mayhem
For people unsigning / Make a paragon, get it to lvl 20 and then u will know why paragons need leadership req shield.
Tyla
I've already made a Paragon, and it's not our fault you don't understand how powerful Paragons are already.
Paragons don't need a Leadership shield, they need deleting / fixing.
Paragons don't need a Leadership shield, they need deleting / fixing.
MisterB
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Originally Posted by Master Mayhem
For people unsigning / Make a paragon, get it to lvl 20 and then u will know why paragons need leadership req shield.
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Trylo
uhh... you think anet introduced paragons with command and motivation shields and just 'forgot' leadership shields or what?
OH WAIT maybe they did it on purpose. <== correct answer.
if you cant answer why they did that i suggest you reconsider your paragon.
OH WAIT maybe they did it on purpose. <== correct answer.
if you cant answer why they did that i suggest you reconsider your paragon.
Oblivious Moose
/signed...
ive said this many times in the past..
give leadership req shields, or remove str based sheilds.
that and give all shield skins to both war and para.. not fair that war has EVERY SHIELD SKIN, while para only has a limited number.
been unbalanced like this since day 1 with para.. please fix anet. its really not that hard to add 3 LINES OF CODE.
ive said this many times in the past..
give leadership req shields, or remove str based sheilds.
that and give all shield skins to both war and para.. not fair that war has EVERY SHIELD SKIN, while para only has a limited number.
been unbalanced like this since day 1 with para.. please fix anet. its really not that hard to add 3 LINES OF CODE.
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by Leeds
/notsigned if this happens i want another attrib shield for my warrior :P and daggers under deadly arts.
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12 chars.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose
give leadership req shields, or remove str based sheilds.
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Cyb3r
/agree to tyla's post
Artorius.Maximus
/signed for paragons needing a leadership shield
I also agree with everyone that there are a lot of attributes out there that do not get enough love from players due to the sheer lack of a weapon to go with them. I have no idea how many threads I have seen requesting Beast Mastery weapons.
I also agree with everyone that there are a lot of attributes out there that do not get enough love from players due to the sheer lack of a weapon to go with them. I have no idea how many threads I have seen requesting Beast Mastery weapons.
Hugh Manatee
It's not hard at all to get high enough leadership with enough left over to get 9-10 in motivation or command(either 12-10-8, 11-10-10 or 12-9-9 or 11-9-8-8 before runes and headgear), and still have useful skills from those attributes. Just because warriors get shields in their primary attribute doesn't mean paragons need them. I actually like that, if I wanted to, I could roll a /P and meet the req of either attribute.
Covah
If you are giving paragons a third type of shield, throw in Beastmastery Staff or something.
MagmaRed
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Originally Posted by Master Mayhem
For people unsigning / Make a paragon, get it to lvl 20 and then u will know why paragons need leadership req shield.
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Paragon's don't need a shield at all, but a Leadership shield is not a wise move in my opinion.
Enix
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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Agreed.
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RotteN
i want a shield with air magic requirement, so my shock can do MOAR DAMAGE
/notsigned. Not needed, spec in motivation or command, or run around with +8AL instead of +16AL ...
/notsigned. Not needed, spec in motivation or command, or run around with +8AL instead of +16AL ...
RavagerOfDreams
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
I think the whole point was to discourage pure spear/leadership bars.
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/notsigned
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Artorius.Maximus
I have no idea how many threads I have seen requesting Beast Mastery weapons.
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Having a leadership shield would make paragons even more overpowered.
Strength was designed with shield use in mind, leadership was balanced without. Those who say strength shields should be removed because there arre no leadership ones are just being stupid.
joshuarodger
/signed if i get a shield with a divine favor attribute also.
Armor +16 (requires Divine Favor 9)
that would be nice.
Armor +16 (requires Divine Favor 9)
that would be nice.
Adja1005
/signed just to annoy people who complain about the Imbaness of Paragons. I dont care whether you think they are or not, they are awesome. Close thread.
Owik Gall
I can't make a vote unless there's a different suggestion like the one ArkNayarr mentioned. I think that if you put shields in Leadership it would almost bring them to empowerment. Further more, I don't see any REAL problem of para shields' current requirement, especially when it keeps the class balanced. As a matter of fact, I am going to make a vote, based on previous posters response and my personal experience. If you want something for Leadership, ask for a horn, or any tool that would fit a leader. In GW2, they could make a shield for Leadership and Command, and something like a horn for Motivation and Leadership, that might be fine if Anet is ok with it. For now, I'm well content with the way things are for Paras, but if Anet feels the same way then lets expect them to add Leadership into one of the requirements. Provided that they take out one of the other two, perhaps motivation since I don't see a real reason why you need motivational skills to wield a shield. Now, since Anet saw fit to put the requirements they way they are today, then odds are, that's where they will stay. And if there are going to be any changes anyway, it would have happened long before. /notsigned due to the factors of which I just stated. (Sorry if I was generally running off. I just had a lot to say.)
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Adja1005
/signed just to annoy people who complain about the Imbaness of Paragons. I dont care whether you think they are or not, they are awesome. Close thread.
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