What profession from your experience is the best at dealing damage in PvE / Hard Mode?
I have an Elementalist and I am a little unhappy with her at the moment because enemies seem to have excellent armor against most of my spells.
So which profession has the better armor ignoring or piercing skills, and/or does best damage in PvE while in Hard Mode?
Please share your opinions on the professions you play/know. Thanks.
Most consistent damage dealer? (PvE)
Windf0rce
Kanna Banrai
Mesmers, Necro and Earth Ele's do the best damage in HM in my experience.
Marverick
[Moebius Strike][Death Blossom] for HM
for NM it would be crit scythe probably
for NM it would be crit scythe probably
kev read
I've seen screenies of the numbers on Spiteful Spirit... bunches of 37s go flying off of a whole group of people, and then they all keel over...
I haven't ever made a necro... maybe i should...
nah... melee is for me =P
I haven't ever made a necro... maybe i should...
nah... melee is for me =P
RedNova88
I'd say most physical damage dealers do well in HM, especially an Assassin with your average Death Blossom spam build. Warriors are also well and fine in HM, they just need a proper build for laying out the hurt. If you're going with an Ele in HM, I would honestly just go with SF if you're fighting enemies with really high armor, that way they're under constant pressure.
DarkFlame
Rit with [vwk], maybe.
MisterT69
[Moebius strike] and [death blossom] of course. As for that constant super awesome el damage, can't go wrong with [searing flames], or if you're feeling lucky, [savannah heat][arcane echo][air of superiority]. Hell, a chance to 4x cast savannah heat at 1 mob. Even in HM the damage is too intense to flee from. throw in [meteor shower] and just watch the numbers fly...
HawkofStorms
Curse Necros
Paragons
Paragons
Kyomi Tachibana
Mesmers, necros, sins, paragons, and warriors.
Mesmer spells all do armor ignoring damage.
Necro spells do shadow/armor ignoring damage, with some cold, too.
Assassins have DB/Moebius whose damage bonuses are armor ignoring.
Paragons attack skills have armor ignoring bonus damage. Same with warriors.
Also for the best damage.... I'd say bring a physical heavy team with at least one Necro with [Barbs] and [Mark of Pain] and maybe [Order of Pain]. <3<3
Mesmer spells all do armor ignoring damage.
Necro spells do shadow/armor ignoring damage, with some cold, too.
Assassins have DB/Moebius whose damage bonuses are armor ignoring.
Paragons attack skills have armor ignoring bonus damage. Same with warriors.
Also for the best damage.... I'd say bring a physical heavy team with at least one Necro with [Barbs] and [Mark of Pain] and maybe [Order of Pain]. <3<3
Alleji
SS Necro, hands down.
(Especially when paired with MM+some physicals and carrying barbs)
In easy mode, probably fire eles. EDIT: Although you can set up a physical-based team that would deal more overall damage than a team of fire eles, since physicals can have better synergy.
(Especially when paired with MM+some physicals and carrying barbs)
In easy mode, probably fire eles. EDIT: Although you can set up a physical-based team that would deal more overall damage than a team of fire eles, since physicals can have better synergy.
credit
Discord hexway with your heroes blows up PvE.
Esan
Rt/R with Splinter Weapon and Barrage, aided by Mark of Pain, is still the AoE damage king.
As an Ele, you might consider going as a secondary Necro with Necrosis. Combined with Intensity when needed, you can be quite a potent spiker.
As an Ele, you might consider going as a secondary Necro with Necrosis. Combined with Intensity when needed, you can be quite a potent spiker.
Tyla
[dragon slash]
I win.
12 chars of leetness
I win.
12 chars of leetness
mistokibbles
Can't cleave do pretty much the same damage as dragon slash? And how do earth eles do the most damage? sorry for my ignorance 
Tyla
Last time I checked, consistent = going on and on. Correct me if I'm wrong.
D-Slash, while under "FGJ!", deals the highest consistent DPS in the game.
Don't forget also fueling stuff like Brawling Headbutt for knocklocks, and "SY!" for +100 armour to the entire party.
Can also still keep insane DPS with D-Slash -> Brawling -> Steelfang.
D-Slash, while under "FGJ!", deals the highest consistent DPS in the game.
Don't forget also fueling stuff like Brawling Headbutt for knocklocks, and "SY!" for +100 armour to the entire party.
Can also still keep insane DPS with D-Slash -> Brawling -> Steelfang.
Windf0rce
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Last time I checked, consistent = going on and on. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes it can be interpreted that way too.
Although I meant more as in 'reliable' way than consistent then.
That's because some spells are listed as doing X damage and when I hit high-armored/leveled enemies in Hard Mode they deal half damage or worse. So I don't consider them 'reliable'. Yesterday I was running a HM mission in Tyria (Iron Mines) at 16 Fire Magic and dealing pretty pitiful damage.
I am considering making an Assassin. I didn't make one before in PvE because I did not feel skilled enough in Guild Wars to survive as one, but I believe now I know the game areas well enough to know when I can hop in, deal damage, when I must wait a little, shadow step out, and so on. I have a baby Assassin and she's great fun to play.
Great advice guys/gals, thanks.
Although I meant more as in 'reliable' way than consistent then.
That's because some spells are listed as doing X damage and when I hit high-armored/leveled enemies in Hard Mode they deal half damage or worse. So I don't consider them 'reliable'. Yesterday I was running a HM mission in Tyria (Iron Mines) at 16 Fire Magic and dealing pretty pitiful damage.
I am considering making an Assassin. I didn't make one before in PvE because I did not feel skilled enough in Guild Wars to survive as one, but I believe now I know the game areas well enough to know when I can hop in, deal damage, when I must wait a little, shadow step out, and so on. I have a baby Assassin and she's great fun to play.
Great advice guys/gals, thanks.
mistokibbles
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Last time I checked, consistent = going on and on. Correct me if I'm wrong.
D-Slash, while under "FGJ!", deals the highest consistent DPS in the game.
You didn't mention FGJ in your first post
. I just didn't think about it because i don't like the downtime from fgj so I almost never use it.
D-Slash, while under "FGJ!", deals the highest consistent DPS in the game.
You didn't mention FGJ in your first post
. I just didn't think about it because i don't like the downtime from fgj so I almost never use it.
Schmerdro
In Hard Mode, Arcane Echo with Spiteful Spirit works great because enemies use skills and attack faster; Curse Necros also have access to Barbs and mark of Pain, which clearly makes them the best for constant AoE armor-ignoring damage.
Barrage with Splinter Weapon is nice as well, if you want something non-hex.
Earth is only good for defense.. otherwise it is a weaker version of Fire damage (mostly because Mark of Rodgort can make a lot of enemies burn). Also, try spreading Cracked Armor from Shell Shock and Epidemic to increase your elemental damage since you don't need much Energy Storage anyway.
Those Assassin and Warrior builds are much less reliable and efficient... and the Warrior can't even do AoE damage >_>
Barrage with Splinter Weapon is nice as well, if you want something non-hex.
Earth is only good for defense.. otherwise it is a weaker version of Fire damage (mostly because Mark of Rodgort can make a lot of enemies burn). Also, try spreading Cracked Armor from Shell Shock and Epidemic to increase your elemental damage since you don't need much Energy Storage anyway.
Those Assassin and Warrior builds are much less reliable and efficient... and the Warrior can't even do AoE damage >_>
Pyra Fade
imo, dont give up on ur ele!!
try this, [blinding flash][lightning orb][lightning hammer][arcane echo][glyph of swiftness][ether renewal][aura of restoration][air attunement]
12+1+3 air
12+1 e store
rez is for heros
cracked armor from lightning orb, then echo ur lightning hammer and spam away
[blinding flash] is one of my favorite utilities, but u can swap it for anything.
40/40 air set while casting, spear/shield set with +20% enchant while reapplying enchants.
ive had great fun with this, hope it helps
try this, [blinding flash][lightning orb][lightning hammer][arcane echo][glyph of swiftness][ether renewal][aura of restoration][air attunement]
12+1+3 air
12+1 e store
rez is for heros
cracked armor from lightning orb, then echo ur lightning hammer and spam away
[blinding flash] is one of my favorite utilities, but u can swap it for anything.
40/40 air set while casting, spear/shield set with +20% enchant while reapplying enchants.
ive had great fun with this, hope it helps
silavor
Ursan, ursan, ursan! Most reliable damage from northern tyria to the jade sea. :P
But yah, fire magic will fail in some of the harder hard-mode areas. It's just a fact of life. That's when you switch to hexing, utilizing your massive energy reserves to be able to consistantly apply the hexes when the other classes have to manage energy. Or do something like the build above where you focus on conditioning/spiking instead of damaging as much as you can at once.
But yah, fire magic will fail in some of the harder hard-mode areas. It's just a fact of life. That's when you switch to hexing, utilizing your massive energy reserves to be able to consistantly apply the hexes when the other classes have to manage energy. Or do something like the build above where you focus on conditioning/spiking instead of damaging as much as you can at once.
blue.rellik
Moebius /Death Blossum will outclass the damage from just about any caster or weapon user. Incredibly consistent AoE armour-ignoring damage? Yes please
xDusT II
Buffed physicals output the highest amount of damage in the game.
zling
Moebius+Blossom with a Necro that has [skill]Weaken Armor[/skill][skill]Mark of Pain[/skill][skill]Barbs[/skill] and maybe even [skill]Rigor Mortis[/skill]
Panais
junundu lol
but really id say necro, para, mesmer
but really id say necro, para, mesmer
Turbobusa
Quote:
Originally Posted by credit
Discord hexway with your heroes blows up PvE.
seconded.
With some minions thrown in the middle, it is a click to win build.
With some minions thrown in the middle, it is a click to win build.
Tyla
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmerdro
Quote:
|
Those Assassin and Warrior builds are much less reliable and efficient... and the Warrior can't even do AoE damage >_>
[whirlwind attack] [triple chop] [cyclone axe] [hundred blades] Ohai. Buff your Warrior up with [[Splinter Weapon] for the strongest AoE damage in the game too.
kostolomac
Necros do the most damage from the casters , while i think warriors would be better damage dealers from assassins due to strength.
Steboy93
[skill]dragon slash[/skill] + [skill]"for great Justice!"[/skill]
=Dead HM stuff
Marverick
Quote:
Originally Posted by kostolomac
Necros do the most damage from the casters , while i think warriors would be better damage dealers from assassins due to strength.
Dslash is around 70 DPSish. Moebius - DB is around 90 DPS, not counting the AoE splash damage, as well as the more frequent hits, and not factoring in armor.
Strength is horrible for damage....
fenix
Warriors > Sins, because Sins need buffs or they die.
Plus, if a Sin gets blocked/dodged/misses, gg entire bar. Warriors can also offer up PARTY support with Save Yourselves, and whatever else you want to throw on. Use a sin if you want to die lots.
bj91x
Best damage? Or most consistent?
Best damage would go to a N. Multiple SSed enemies grouped together and attacking fast = $_$ Most consistent? I'd have to go with W and A. W and A can dish out damage in nearly any situation. Unlike an E or a D, they don't need bunched up enemies for huge damage. Unlike a N or a Me, they don't require enemy action to determine damage. Unlike a P or a R, you can't miss because the enemy moved (since arrows and spears don't have homing capabilities). This is based on general play without counter builds in mind. Meaning not counting dodge stances, blind conditions, daze conditions, slowed down spell cast times, etc. If you take those into consideration... then it's next to impossible to say. Who deals more daamge? A blind W hacking away an enemy who is dodging with no way to counter these? Or a dazed caster who is constantly being interrupted? >_> xDusT II
I don't see how people keep saying SS is the most consistent damage dealer, considering it's nothing more than a mob softener that's thrown on a low priority target.
DarkNecrid
Monk.
versus level 1 foes. Tyla
Quote:
Originally Posted by bj91x
Who deals more daamge? A blind W hacking away an enemy who is dodging with no way to counter these? Or a dazed caster who is constantly being interrupted? >_>
Condition removal says hi.
Blocking? Target switching / enchant removal says hi.
legacyofkain85
for hm anything that does armor ignoring damage ,and altho if i hate to admit it yes Ursan is probably the most consistent dmg dealer in hm (could be wrong tho),played around with discord and a 100+dmg spamable is quite nice to
Stormlord Alex
Physicals, in short.
assassins (DB/MS spammers), warrs (DSlash godmode) or dervs (WS or just... the tree) all deal more damage than eles can ever hope to (+dmg is armour-ignoring, therefore not crap vs PvE enemies); alonsgside being able to be buffed out the wazzoo with support +dmg skills. [[splinter weapon], [[barbs], and [[mark of pain] make even the dumbest wammo a better damage-dealer than any ele. Sad, but true.
Enix
The long and short of it is... it depends. My girlfriend and I usually vanq with 2 Ursan (her and me), a Double Attuned fire ele, Sandstorm/Warder, MM, BiP/Prot nec with extinguish (rethinking this one), and a WoH monk and a HB Monk.
Are you talking about your ele, specifically? If you are fighting destroyers, Water is nice - Ether Renewa, Water Attunement, Malestrom, Ice Spikes, and Deep Freeze combined with Alchemic Acid, Snowstorm, Great Dwarf Armor can chew through them pretty fast. As far as raw, spammable damage is concerned, Echo SS necs still take the cake imo. Give them Enfeebling Blood for some defense, and have a MM with Discord... pwnage. HM requires a balance of offense and defense if you are running H/H. Keep that in mind. luminoire
Quote:
Originally Posted by mistokibbles
And how do earth eles do the most damage? sorry for my ignorance
[magnetic surge][obsidian flame][sliver armor]12 characters
Div
Asking for the most consistent damage dealer makes no sense. It's like asking for the "best" dervish build.
|
