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Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

See, I feel ArenaNet are missing a trick here.

With all the worry over hacked accounts and fear of losing all your characters I have a, frankly, genius money sink for people who want to "insure" their characters.

I propose the installation of a Xunlai Insurance Agent NPC. One to be placed in The Kodash Bazaar, one in the Harvest Temple, one in Droknar's Forge, and one in Heroes' Ascent. Through this NPC you can save everything you own and all your characters. Naturally, there would need to be different levels of cover:
  • Basic Insurance - Charged at 1000 gold per character on the account - This covers your Characters' Names, the one set of armor they are currently wearing, and the outposts they have unlocked along with their quest logs, and skills bought/capped.
  • Core Insurance - Charged at 3000 gold per character on the account - This covers you for all of the above, along with title progress.
  • Premium Insurance - Charged at 5000 gold per character on the account - This covers you for all of the above (Core and Basic) including all of those characters' inventories.
  • Comprehensive Insurance - Charged at 5000 gold per character on the account, and an additional 15,000 gold, this insurance covers you for all that covered by Premium Insurance, as well as covering the entire contents of your Main Xunlai Storage box, including materials tab.

Further to that above, ALL characters on the account would be insured - it should not be possible to pick and choose single characters. Furthermore, you can only insure your progress / items on a maximum one-monthly basis. This would stop people doing so after completing every mission (though the pricing could be set so that it was obscenely expensive to do so)

On being "hacked" and losing items etc... ArenaNet would need to be contacted, and only they would have the power to reinstate the account (after investigation) under the terms of the "insurance coverage", as it was at the point of insuring it.

Ok boys and girls, pull this idea apart.

Sawamura

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Belgium

Braveheart World XI [any]

W/Mo

I like the idea, especially how so much people would be helped with this. But somehow I believe Anet won't put this to work since they claim account recovery = impossible.

If there could be some kind of check to see whether people didn't just delete them theirselves on purpose I'd fully agree with this.

/signed, simply because it would take away a lot of injustice in GW

Artisan Archer

Artisan Archer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2007

Free Wind

R/

Survivor title abuse?

and other abuses? You sell alot of ecto's move your money to your other account, claim you was hacked, and viola, you have doubled your fortune...

Sleeper Service

Sleeper Service

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

CULT

insure, sell, trade, report = insurance fraud = PROFIT.


works in games like EVE where "real" type frauds are permited (even encouraged) not in GW.

Free Sigils

Free Sigils

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2007

Puff Puff Pass That Oh W T F [B스n]

Me/P

I actually like the idea in conept. It would need a LOT of failsafes. Not so sure about the prices, but I doubt Anet would ever do it anyway.

Personally, I've always wanted a Xunlai Stock Market.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Insanely hard to manage and investigate, and quite abusable too, I'm sure

I just felt it was a humorous suggestion, with some merit. I have no doubt that it would be difficult to implement.

lietzaum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

VILE

N/

personally i do like the idea but in truth they will not make it a reality but on that not to have the comprehensive insurance i would say it would have to be more then 20k some people have hundreds of ectos and the money sink personnaly would work better if they charge more 20k is not really that much
not to say that i am in the mood for another money sink


and i would like an insurance for trading more then for hackers
traders can have more of in impact on the game then hackers imo

/signed with modifications

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

Not easy to apply, but would be good.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I really believe this should be done with real money.

More money paid in = more money for ANet to use towards the game...hopefully...

Well, maybe in-game cash aswell...

Right now I'm not sure, I'll try to think later.

Franco Power

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

Or PlayNC and Anet can just get a real account protection system.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

are you insane? if they could do it they would already.

and can you imagine the uproar if they actually started charging gold for it?

/should have been a way to lock characters from the start and to hell if i'd pay for it

Ghost Cat

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/

It would be much more effective and efficient to improve account security.

Idealistic view: The root of the problem is hacking after all and I am not willing to accept hacking as something we have to live with and insure ourselves against.

Realistic view: We would probably all be better off if ANet invested its resources in improving GW2 security and design it so that toons/accounts/guilds may be rolled back individually after a security breach.

Why do you want to establish an ingame insurance system in the form of a goldsink anyway?

Shouldn't account security be a standard feature of the product leaving us our gold to be "invested" in shiny things?

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Cat
Why do you want to establish an ingame insurance system in the form of a goldsink anyway?
It wasn't an entirely serious suggestion to be honest, though, it was more suggesting that a system to save and record the progress of accounts is required.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Cat
Shouldn't account security be a standard feature of the product leaving us our gold to be "invested" in shiny things?
Yes, Yes it should.

Shame ArenaNet doesn't seem to want to implement such a "standard feature".

Steboy93

Steboy93

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Feb 2007

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] | Ex-Officer [TAM]

W/

Well, this clearly isn't going to happen, but it would be great if it did

/signed

Killed u man

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

So wait, we have to pay for basic security 99% of all other MMO's have?

Makes sense...

/signed but without costs, being able to "lock" a character from deletion is something so basic, and GW lacks it, surprise surprise, and you're actauuly suggestion to pay for it?

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

Actually these ideas below would come in handy where Characters/account being maliciously wipe clean is concern.

Example 1
Example 2

I am thinking that players are allow to export their character statistic onto their own computer or onto GuildWars.com or arena net.com anywhere that is best for the game and its player, if you are unlucky to get attack, your "exported statistic" will then be sent to arena net for to retrieve your account as it was last "backup- exported statistic" back.

so a players would be wise to export their characters statistic and have a backup copy of that store in a cd or something.

no offence Celestial Beaver, but it should not be on the players shoulder to buy insurance when arena net have bad security measures.

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

R/

/notsigned

i really dont know how many times imma say this...but STOP TRYING TO ADD TO GW ffs all your doing is making a bad game worse and slowing the devolopment of a better games (guildwars2 if you didnt know)....

Adja1005

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Scotland

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik
/notsigned

i really dont know how many times imma say this...but STOP TRYING TO ADD TO GW ffs all your doing is making a bad game worse and slowing the devolopment of a better games (guildwars2 if you didnt know)....
A bad game you still play and take time to visit a fansite about to post in a discussion. Also considering there is, as of this moment, still no clear release date for the BETA or final product i'd say adding to GW is a viable option.

The last thing a developer wants to do is lose its playerbase before releasing a sequal to a game franchise. By adding more to GW they keep those players who have played since the release of GW till the release of GW2 and also draw in new players to increase the size of the community.

/signed for being a creative idea, although with flaws that i'm sure could be worked out. I have to say i still find it hard to believe what Regina said about players data being lost if an account has been hacked. I doubt its impossible to restore, but imagine that its a lot harder and time consuming and thus less beneficial to Anet. And considering there is no monthly fee for GW i doubt they really feel it justifies taking the time to restore an account. Not when they've already taken your money.

Jenn

Jenn

Resigned.

Join Date: Sep 2006

I think you should be able to insure customized items only, and it would work like the Festival Hats NPC. You can delete your insured customized item all you want, but it will always be there. Same with armor.

Combine this idea with someone else's thread about being able to "lock" a character (i.e. you can't delete it once it's locked into place) and I think we have more security.

I don't think there's a way to safely, without abuse, implement a system where all your shiny undead weapons or pets, or stacks of ectos will be safe, but something is better than nothing.

Lynyrd Skynyrd

Lynyrd Skynyrd

Banned

Join Date: May 2008

Give inventories and storages a PIN option.

Charge gold per PIN access, so only the stupid paranoid noobs will get to waste money.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

A good idea but way open to abuse.

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

This idea is so amazing.

I think prices should be higher.

Either that or get a /lockcharacter ability that locks a character from being deleted for a month every time you pay 100k.

Or maybe the ability to password protect a storage tab at 50k/month.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adja1005
A bad game you still play and take time to visit a fansite about to post in a discussion. Also considering there is, as of this moment, still no clear release date for the BETA or final product i'd say adding to GW is a viable option.
Let's not forget that GW:1 rapidly seems to be becomming a huge Beta for GW:2 anyway...

Quote:
Originally Posted by majikmajikmajik
/notsigned

i really dont know how many times imma say this...but STOP TRYING TO ADD TO GW ffs all your doing is making a bad game worse and slowing the devolopment of a better games (guildwars2 if you didnt know)....
When you log on to GWG why do you even bother looking through Sardelac Sanitarium if you don't think people should be making game suggestions?

Go to Riverside and annoy Avarre.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Illfated Fat
I think you should be able to insure customized items only, and it would work like the Festival Hats NPC. You can delete your insured customized item all you want, but it will always be there. Same with armor.
I like that one. It's not like copying tons of expensive weapons would *really* do anyone any good...you can't wield 2 and it's only you who will be able to use them. (And your heroes I guess)

DarkNecrid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by holymasamune
This idea is so amazing.

I think prices should be higher.

Either that or get a /lockcharacter ability that locks a character from being deleted for a month every time you pay 100k.

Or maybe the ability to password protect a storage tab at 50k/month.
and if you pre-order gw2 you get 50% off.

and if you get an additional 5% off for every rank in the KOABD title you have. (highest rank only!)

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem to make too much sense to me.

Last I heard, Regina said that the issue about restoring character and such is that ArenaNet does not currently have the adequate technology to do deal with it. As far as I can tell, they certainly would lack manpower to deal with several million customers and their characters as well.

Given that, I'm not sure how we can hope for ArenaNet to suddenly come up with this policy they don't have the time, manpower, or technology for, and then compensate them by giving their Xunlai Agents cyber gold.

It's giving them cyber gold to pay extra attention to your account.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by poasiods
Last I heard, Regina said that the issue about restoring character and such is that ArenaNet does not currently have the adequate technology to do deal with it. As far as I can tell, they certainly would lack manpower to deal with several million customers and their characters as well.
ok, so...

Suggestion: Make a system to save game progress.

That was basically my point in post #1 if you ignore all the fluff.

bodyboarder

bodyboarder

retired

Join Date: Jun 2006

lol i love the idea but chances of anet doing it...ehh not likely
but /signed anyway

Tosha

Tosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

The Order of the Kitten [PURR]

I love the idea because it can be easily abused
Hurray for moar exploits!

But anyway, someone once suggested to lock a character for real money, and I think that is a better suggestion (i am too lazy to search the thread :P)

The Bard

The Bard

Metal Machine

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scions of Carver [SCAR]

/signed for the idea of "saving" characters and progress. needs some work though

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

I got an idea. Lets just do this for free for everyone!

/signed

I'd buy it.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

I kind of prefer the /lockcharacter thing, but this would be a good start too I guess...

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

It seems kind of silly to me I really think Anet should protect our accounts. This is really not needed if Anet would do its job. I would rather pay real money for a system that Anet could impliment. I think Anet would be more intersted in a system if they could sell it and make some money.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

There's a concern of mine that says if you insure your account, trade away some things, report the account, and get it reinstated, those traded-away items will still be out there, which is certainly something we don't want.

I'm not sure how that loophole can be fixed with this idea, so I'm going to say /notsigned. That's unfortunate, because the idea of protecting characters/accounts from malicious acts seems important, but this plan has a severe loophole that I can't figure out how to fix.

illidan009

illidan009

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2008

Volterra, Italy

A/

I guess many ppl would only be able to ensure 1 character then...I understand this is supposed to be expensive, but those prices are kinda ridiculous. Please do not flame me with comments like "OMG FARM MOAR NOOB LOLOL"...

DarkGanni

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
I really believe this should be done with real money.

More money paid in = more money for ANet to use towards the game...hopefully...

Well, maybe in-game cash aswell...

Right now I'm not sure, I'll try to think later.
In response to that I would pay both for 3 reasons:

1. Game Money is easy to get.
2. The Real money fee wouldn't be THAT high so its affordable.
3. Both game and real money can be re-acquired, your work on the account will not.

~ Ganni ~

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

The way account recovery is now, I'd say it's impossible to use this idea. And I doubt Anet will pay you, or just give you something to compensate for YOUR loss. Especially when they don't have to. I have to say, /notsigned for little possibility.

xRustyx

xRustyx

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bermuda Triangle

W/

I am a Guild Wars Fraud Specialist employed by the Xunlai Agency under the Canthan Elite Branch and this idea is

icedwhitemocha

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

Tech isn't there, so...

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/

/signed. However, a simple character lock is better.