Z Keys

Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

Which method of using Zkeys is the most profitable? Selling for 4.5-5k at gtob or Actually opening the zaishen chest? What are some of the drops that you can get that make it worth 5k?

Gift3d

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

There's no telling because opening the chest is based 100% on luck. You could get a crystalline, you could get a flask of firewater. It's all chance. I've opened it hundreds of times, and would have said with my luck i would've made MUCH more profit by selling the keys.

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

1. use search http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10228998

2. It is a gamble, it will always be more profitable to just sell the keys. You could use 1 key and get a req 8 Eternal blade, or you could get a firewater. Better just to sell.

Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

Alright got it I think im going to try to open it like a few times then if i get some epic blade ill stop opening. But i know it will be a chronic urge to keep opening the chest if i do get somehting good lol. Ill just open it like 2-3 times get my firewater and work on my drunkard title ha.

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masta_yoda

masta_yoda

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2007

most hated players in the [game]

R/Mo

ur better of selling it if u only got a few otherwise id use them and try get some good stuff and the emote too

Azure mist

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2008

CAli

R/Mo

FFS creme brule >.<

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Selling them is much better than using them. It's basically playing the lottery, and everyone knows who truly wins in that...

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Selling them by far. You can get about 50k a month. It's great!

Alia Stormkiller

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2008

N/R

I just got back into the game after a year layoff. What are the Zkeys and where are they used?

Daenara

Daenara

Bad Romance

Join Date: May 2006

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Grand Matron

Mo/

My husband used about 1000 keys recently.... and has about 300 ecto to show for it. So it's really not a profitable way to make money..

Angelus...

Angelus...

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2007

Webel Wising [wawr]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazza558
Selling them by far. You can get about 50k a month. It's great!
At least, I know nothing about the top guilds and best hero battle players. But I would've (if curiosity didnt get the best of me) made 75k by just putting the top 8 in the order they start in for HB and the ATs.

X Tigercat X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

Rt/

I actualy made a huge profit by opening the chest
I had opened it around 600times when theywere worth 2-3k and about 70 at 5k
In one drop I got more than all those keys combine ( everlasting transfiger tonic) and still got about 100 cremes and firewaters each +250 to my wisdom title and quite a few rare skins like celstial compass gloom shield etc

For it was far more profitable but may not b in most cases

Breakfast Mc Rit

Breakfast Mc Rit

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

[Sin]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alia Stormkiller
I just got back into the game after a year layoff. What are the Zkeys and where are they used?
Zkeys (Zaishen Keys) are keys you can use to open the Zaishen Chest on Isle of the Nameless.

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

I've made about 1mill selling keys and used about 1.5mill worth of keys. By far selling them would be more profitable.

Cab Tastic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

Rt/

Do you feel lucky?

I have opened that chest a grand total of twice. Second drop was one of those phantasmal tonic things. (which I sold).

Molock

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Qu??bec

Legacy of Angels [Halo]

E/

I opened the chest 250 times, the best I got was a q11 command amethyst aegis, since the title was introduced I have been selling all my keys and have made a lot more gold...

Destiny2097

Destiny2097

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

some people are incredibly lucky and get a super rare drop with only a few keys, some use...a lot...and end up being far worse off than if they had sold the keys. for me i would have made quite a bit selling all the zkeys but i always use them, no fun/excitement for me in just selling. generally speaking i would say selling is definately more profitable than using, especially with a lot of prices on rares falling.

credit

credit

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Team Apathy [aFk]

W/P

Sell those little sons of a bitches.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Selling them makes you more cash, using them puts hair on your chest.

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazza558
Selling them by far. You can get about 50k a month. It's great!
A month? Try a day

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Sell them or trade them for ectos.

You Look Grim

You Look Grim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

Ecnegilletni Laicifitra [朔mud]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
A month? Try a day
truth. my guild just started ATs and we get like 20 keys per day :3

Courage!

Courage!

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

Australia

Mo/

heres a tip, when opening a zaishen chest and u have 1 key dont bother ull need around 50 to get anything good, i had around 60 keys and got about 4 good items rest were crappy golds and sweets

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

Sell them.

I've opened the chest maybe 100 times (all before the title!) and only got 1 or 2 weapons that were even hero-worthy. The nicest I got was an inscribable req. 9 Celestial Sword.

Of course, you could hit the lottery on your first key, but you're probably better off selling them and just buying whatever you want!

Akaraxle

Akaraxle

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Italy

E/

I haven't used my bunch yet, and everyone keeps telling me to sell them and buy lockpicks if I really want to open stuff, but I'm really very tempted to gamble for fun.

kobey

kobey

GW Retiree

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sg Unknown [KATE]

W/

Back then when they were 2.5k-3k, people were screaming that its much much much more profitable to sell the keys than to hope for good drops. Now they are 5k each, so...

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Overall, the Zaishen Chest is like any chest, most of what you get out of it is crap. If you only open a few chests it's likely you'll be disappointed, but if you open enough of them, and are prepared to spend some time selling the stuff, you can make a profit and/or get some good stuff for your self. (And that applies to any high-end chest, especially in HM)

I used to buy a lot of Z-keys back when I could get them for 2.5k each. A got enough good stuff to make it worthwhile (best was a req9 Magmas Shield).
Now that they go for 5k or so, I don't bother any more. True, you may be able to get an Everlasting Tonic, sell it for lots of gold and still make a profit, but those things are such stupid worthless bits of kiddie crap, I can't be bothered with them (and I'm sure the fad would blow over by the time I got one )

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker
True, you may be able to get an Everlasting Tonic, sell it for lots of gold and still make a profit, but those things are such stupid worthless bits of kiddie crap, I can't be bothered with them (and I'm sure the fad would blow over by the time I got one )
HAH the only 2 reasons I dumped 300+ keys on the z chest was mainly for one of those tonics, which I never got, and to get r4 z title. Guess I would have been better off selling the keys and just buying the tonic

Shiro Katagari

Shiro Katagari

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2007

The Frontier Wolves

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by You Look Grim
truth. my guild just started ATs and we get like 20 keys per day :3
Wha-?? 100,000 faction a day? What am I missing?

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Ont.

[DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiro Katagari
Wha-?? 100,000 faction a day? What am I missing?
You're missing Automated Tournaments, which in turn give you faction per kill, faction for winning and reward points which also can be spent to purchase keys