skills that initially confused you?

GourangaPizza

GourangaPizza

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/W

I don't know about skills which confuse me but I do know that many warriors confuse most Healing Prayers skills as the key to their 'god mode'.

EDIT:
Oh wait, I do have one, [skill]Smiter's Boon[/skill]. Pretty confusing at first since I mistaken Divine Favor bonus comes in only when spells if inherent healing are cast.

calynda danyciar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

DVDF

Me/N

I always got confused by [Arcane Larceny] and [Arcane Thievery]
At the beginning i thought, that the skill i stole from the foe was replaced by Arcane Thievery at their bar! so i always wonderd why they never used Arcane thievery/Larceny. untill at some point i figured it just disables one random spell at their bar and give it to me

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

The original [Auspicious Incantation] made me do a double take, but never had problems figuring out what the skills did. Apparently the majority of guild wars players failed their 2nd grade reading classes, which is why 95% of pug rangers are guaranteed to be using apply + barrage.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkknightkain
For the life of me, I still can't figure out those "recharge X% faster" descriptions. The numbers never add up.
Just when I thought they are fixing [Mantra of Recovery] from the bugged "100% faster" to function really as the described "50% faster" at the skill description... then they bug up the skill description to say "33% faster" now?
Its not bugged, the descriptions are just badly written and noone from anet has bothered to correct it. As with attack speed, recharge 50% faster means it actually recharges in 50% less time, which effectively means 100% faster. Recharge 33% faster means it recharges in 33% less time, which effectively makes it 50% faster. The same thing is true with frenzy, which says it makes you attack 33% faster but actually reduces the attack time by 33%, giving a 50% attack rate increase.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GourangaPizza
I don't know about skills which confuse me but I do know that many warriors confuse most Healing Prayers skills as the key to their 'god mode'.
Don't mess with [Mending] and [Healing Breeze], those skills are awesome...









At helping good players weed out trash.

enxa

enxa

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Novi Sad, Serbia

Rt/

when i first got [skill]Generous Was Tsungrai[/skill], not yet understanding the concept of health sacrifice.
I was like, sacrifice 10% maximum health so i could get maximum health back? Lol wut? Pointless skill.

Took me quite a while to understand how it worked.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

most mesmer skills confuse me, even now, i guess that's why I don't play mesmer that often.

Nittle Grasper

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

E/

all the ebon wards, I thought they only affected charr til I actually read them lol

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFox
None of them, I know how to read.
/clap /clap /clap

sorry someone had to. but I agree with you.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

There were some problems in translations from Spanish, so many skills said that they did something that they did not. Now most of those are fixed.
But even in the English versions there were some of those.

It took me a while to understand how Pet Attacks work...
I could not until they added the Pet panel, then I learned that you have to wait until the pet makes an attack before telling it to use another... that's annoying and silly, by the way.

Dylananimus

Dylananimus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

The Eternal Champions

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yichi
/clap /clap /clap

sorry someone had to. but I agree with you.
Wow, you two must be like...smarter than the rest of us huh? *bows at your feet*

Here, have some more e-peen. I don't need mine, got other things going for me


Anyhow...back on topic.

I think the Mesmer skills are designed to be initially confusing. They're not an easy class to play if you don't spend time figuring out the skills and chaining them properly. I could never work them out which is why after several attempts I gave up trying to play Mesmer

Not through lack of reading skills - I'm a published author so am actually able to read quite well, thank you - but because of the fact so many things can factor in to the spells. Health loss after something else needs to happen, different types of damage, recharge time, interrupting, energy stealing, disrupting the foes skills (often only under certain circumstances). It all gives me a bit of a Migraine (pun intended).

Once you get the hang of an initially confusing spell or skill, or the different types of damage or health loss, it all gets much clearer

Now, time to start another Mes

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

i was initially confused about [[shield of absorption]. the description was not particularly clear about what it did exactly. it wasn't until someone specifically told me what it did before i realized how good it is.

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

For 20 seconds, the next spell you use is disabled for and additional 30 seconds and you gain Energy equal to 110...182% of that spell's energy cost. When you gain Energy in this way, the recharge time for Auspicious Incantation is reset to 25 seconds plus an additional number of seconds equal to the Energy cost of the Spell.

Most everything else made sense to me, but the original [[Auspicious Incantation] was utterly confusing.

wanmoke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

In the land of Do Not Disturb

Wind Riders

R/

Master of Magic confused the hell out of me the first time I capped it. I was on my Ranger and I was confused. Wiki cleared that up for me.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

[contemplation of purity]

First time I ever used it was in a GvG. My guild was not good at GvG, and they needed someone to Monk. I had read alot about Boon Prot builds, and wanted to try it out. I didn't understand that CoP only works on yourself, and didn't have any condition/hex removal for other people. In fact, I used CoP a LOT trying to remove conditions from my team, only to fail, and not understand why. Thought I was just a bad Monk, and never realized WHY I was a bad Monk. When I learned how the skill works, I broke my keyboard with my forehead.

Only the old timers will remember this, but I had trouble with these 2 skills for a while.

[escape] [whirling defense]

People who have played long enough will remember when there was Blocking and Evasion. I couldn't figure out why one would work for blocking, and not the other. Then I learned what was different between blocking and evading.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

When I was an idiot, [[Protective Spirit]...

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
I still remember having to explain to random dude that was calling for help at Gates Of Kryta how [epidemic] works.
He was like " WTF?!?! I cast [backfire] and then [epidemic] it and it doesn't spread! Is it bugged?!?!?".



But the player itself is always considered an ally. Otherwise something like [life] wouldn't heal the summoner.
Basically WoS doesn't have a target. That's why it goes through.
While the player itself is considered an ally, VoS doesn't target an ally, it targets the player casting it. That's why it's not affected by Shame. Other spells like SB have "target ally" in description, cause VoS doesn't have "target ally" in description, even if it targets you (who as you said is considered an ally) it won't get blocked because no "target ally" in the description.

That is what I was implying in my post to that person, but I didn't want to make it all complicated like above description.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

I always thought illusion of weakness looked really pointless in my first few weeks .

Mortis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hate The [Cape]

W/

Was quite annoyed when rof didn't last for a full 8 seconds. Kept losing it on my wammo after taking one hit. It should revert all damage taken in the next 8 seconds. Something's wrong here!

jiggles

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

N/

ranger spirits, ive no idea what [toxicity][winnowing][favourable winds][muddy terrain] or any of the others actually do, the only one i know is [winter].

and quite frankly i dont give a crap what they do for this reason

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
When I was an idiot, [[Protective Spirit]...
This one must still confuse a lot of people, because a lot of dumb people keep asking for it to be nerfed due to 55ing...

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Auspicious incantation had the longest skill description ever. So long that I recall the text had to be a smaller size to fit in that box.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

I don't see why any of the skills would be confusing considering the fact that I can just read the description. If a skill ever did get me confused I'd feel silly.

blooQkazoo

blooQkazoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends

Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall
I don't see why any of the skills would be confusing considering the fact that I can just read the description. If a skill ever did get me confused I'd feel silly.
I was just about to say the same thing.

I guess our public school systems have failed us all.

stouda01

stouda01

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Czech Republic-Prague

[LUST]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Productivity
[Way of the empty Palm]

Way of the empty face.
Spiderman!

caeleth

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Norway

Violent Desire [RAGE]

Mo/

I couldnt understand the hype about Shield of Absorption for quite a while after it came out.. Spent forever trying to explain to a guildie that it really really wasn't a good idea to use it for 55ing. Until someone told me about the cumulative thingie.. Doh!

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Owik Gall
I don't see why any of the skills would be confusing considering the fact that I can just read the description. If a skill ever did get me confused I'd feel silly.
Its quite possible to read somthing and not understand it.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Oh come now, tell me this isn't a little confusing:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Original Auspicious Incantation
For 20 seconds, the next Spell you use is disabled for an additional 30 seconds and you gain Energy equal to 110...182% of that spell's Energy cost. Auspicious Incantation has an additional recharge time equal to that spell's Energy cost.
I mean, not simply confusing to read, but confusing to figure out when this would amount to good energy management, and when it would just be detrimental to you.

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Meth
The original [Auspicious Incantation] made me do a double take, but never had problems figuring out what the skills did. Apparently the majority of guild wars players failed their 2nd grade reading classes, which is why 95% of pug rangers are guaranteed to be using apply + barrage.
2nd Grade? What is that... Year 2? Eight year olds? Government mandated reading systems seem to have failed, so I'm not surprised. Besides, when you're younger, reading isn't 'cool'.

Wait, you get reading classes? Your socialism is better.

On Topic:
I don't recall getting confused by a skill, but I probably have. Depending on my mood and how much caffine I've had, I can be a bit slow at times. I think the thing that most confused me for the longest time was tomes - I had only heard of them in passing and had no idea if they worked for secondaries. I've learnt since then, thankfully o_O

RiKio

RiKio

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2007

Plato's Cave

W/E

[Bonetti´s defense]

I recall when I stripped the stance when attacking foes......

Chrono Re delle Ere

Chrono Re delle Ere

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Land of Hyrule

[GoE]

W/

Just looking at all this smartasses saying that they never got confused about any skill, makes me laugh.

By the way, the only skill which confused me at the very beginning fo the game was Healing Signet. The description was different from what it is now, but the fact is that I didn't understand if you lost the armor for all the period after the casting or just while casting. Since I just started playing the game I wasn't aware of the game mechanics, but also without knowing them the skill looked a bit wicked to me. Well then I figured out that the malus was applied only while casting

blooQkazoo

blooQkazoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrono Re delle Ere
Just looking at all this smartasses saying that they never got confused about any skill, makes me laugh.

By the way, the only skill which confused me at the very beginning fo the game was Healing Signet. The description was different from what it is now, but the fact is that I didn't understand if you lost the armor for all the period after the casting or just while casting. Since I just started playing the game I wasn't aware of the game mechanics, but also without knowing them the skill looked a bit wicked to me. Well then I figured out that the malus was applied only while casting
I can honest to god say that I was never confused by any skill in the game. I read each skill I encountered, carefully, and I understood each and every skill just fine.

Before you start calling any of us a "smartass", then I suggest you learn how each and every one of our brains work. My brain was able to comprehend how healing signet worked the first day I used it and it seems that your head was just too full of GoE (or maybe just shit) to function properly.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by blooQkazoo
I can honest to god say that I was never confused by any skill in the game. I read each skill I encountered, carefully, and I understood each and every skill just fine.

Before you start calling any of us a "smartass", then I suggest you learn how each and every one of our brains work. My brain was able to comprehend how healing signet worked the first day I used it and it seems that your head was just too full of GoE (or maybe just shit) to function properly.
Saying you were never confused by a skill description is one thing. Saying that everyone else is a moron because they didn't and making fun of the fact is being a smart ass. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=smart%20ass How about YOU learn what people see as someone being an asshole, before you call everyone who has found a description a bit confusing "full of shit".

The irony of someone like you saying honest to God is TRULY amazing.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Shield of Absorption screwed my brain over for a while until I actually read it properly. I didn't realise the 5 damage reduction was cumulative.

loltard.

lutz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Battery Powered Best Friends [Vibe]

Me/

None of the skill descriptions are confusing. They require simple, 2nd grade reading skills. Obviously, some are just plainly worded incorrectly, and that's another issue, but saying [Contemplation of Purity] or [Smiter's Boon] or [Auspicious Incantation] confused you is just silly.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

The original form of [[auspicious incantation] was pretty bad-ass :

Enchantment Spell. For 20 seconds, the next Spell you use is disabled for an additional 30 seconds and you gain Energy equal to 110-182% of that spell's Energy cost. The recharge for Auspicious Incantation is reset, and it has an additional recharge time equal to that Spell's Energy cost.

actually had to read it twice before i got everything the skill did.

Owik Gall

Owik Gall

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Guardians of the Light

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diddy bow
Its quite possible to read somthing and not understand it.
I know, but still, there's dictionaries and all that stuff to help me understand. So even though I get help, or read from those books, I'd still feel silly.

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

everyone who says that they always understood every skill is fine, however some of the skills originally had wrong wording that did not explain what the skill did. and even the people who have said "oh duh i knew it [email protected]" say that they had to read it carefully, so basically it did initially confuse you.

i understood [shame] and [guilt] after carefully reading them, but at first it made no sense. and in the middle of a fight trying to figure out either of those hurts my head. eventually i figured out that the faces are turned opposite directions so thats how i tell them apart now.

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

I didn't realize SoA was cumulative when it first came out. Other than that I haven't really had any problems with skills (except maybe auspicious incantation).

Jebus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Belgium

Legion of Sacred Light [LSL]

W/

[Spirit bond]

I thought the 60 damage added up.

Dallcingi

Dallcingi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

USA

The Black Parades [死人死]

Mo/

I always thought [aftershock] caused knockdown... cause i was a nub farmer doing bergen and thought that huge shake woulda knock me over =p
I understood [shame] after it has been used on me in pvp so many times =(

Abonai Laguna

Abonai Laguna

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Isle of the Dead [CoC] GH

Company Of Corpses [CoC]

E/

[Skill]Smiter's Boon[/Skill] still dont understand it xD