"Survivor Title Track" Suggestion

Flying-Eagle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Hello. I would like to obtain your thoughts and feelings on the following suggestion:

"Why should the Survivor Title Track stop when you die once? I understand that it is the end of the "survival", however would it not be better for it to be continuously available? What I mean is that why not have the Title Track "reset" when you die? It would be a lot more useful in the sense of people could then concentrate on the title track later in the game or at least try again."

What do you think? Should this be put into the game updates?

Blunt Feather

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

/signed
i hate my survivor title and i was 20000xp approx away from 2nd rank and died and i've spent 120k+ on that char and don't want to start again

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

survivor is about surviving, not dying and then surviving
/not signed

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

/No.

There has been other threads on this. (Several, actually)

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

Here's my suggestion- leave it as it is.
DISCUSS

Flying-Eagle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panais
survivor is about surviving, not dying and then surviving
/not signed
I disagree strongly. You can still be a survivor even if you have died because a survivor is classed for living for a long period of time. So, even if you die, it classes as theoretically another life, thus it should reset. You said it yourself "dying and then surviving." You still classed it as surviving.

majikmajikmajik

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

SATown~Tx

Guild Hopper!

R/

/notsigned

or else it would of already been added.....

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Multiple ideas, multiple times suggested.

The only change to survivor I can agree with would be one that I saw a long time ago. It suggested that once a character reaches Legendary Suvivor, when they go to put it in the HoM, they can make an item, untradable, and put that in the storage, to then put in another character's HoM. The same suggestion was made for LDoA in that thread as well. Once the "title" is added to a HoM, it will be unable to be put in another. That way, that one time of getting LDoA or LS would only count once, and cannot be changed once put in a hall, nor be traded to others.

The point of survival is to not die, if it was changed to die then restart, then every single person can get it through a few UW/FoW Ursan runs *for those who want the challenge, or just simply HFFF/Dwarven Boxing *for those who want the title*. I personally would love the chance to be able to get survivor on my sin, as that would help his HoM, or just simply to reset his deaths, but I still say no to that.

Change it to this, and every single character can easily get it. Although it would be "fair" to the characters that existed before the Survivor title, I only can agree with what I stated in the first paragraph, and I say that can happen with both Survivor and LDoA.

/notsigned

Flying-Eagle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Multiple ideas, multiple times suggested.

The only change to survivor I can agree with would be one that I saw a long time ago. It suggested that once a character reaches Legendary Suvivor, when they go to put it in the HoM, they can make an item, untradable, and put that in the storage, to then put in another character's HoM. The same suggestion was made for LDoA in that thread as well. Once the "title" is added to a HoM, it will be unable to be put in another. That way, that one time of getting LDoA or LS would only count once, and cannot be changed once put in a hall, nor be traded to others.

The point of survival is to not die, if it was changed to die then restart, then every single person can get it through a few UW/FoW Ursan runs *for those who want the challenge, or just simply HFFF/Dwarven Boxing *for those who want the title*. I personally would love the chance to be able to get survivor on my sin, as that would help his HoM, or just simply to reset his deaths, but I still say no to that.

Change it to this, and every single character can easily get it. Although it would be "fair" to the characters that existed before the Survivor title, I only can agree with what I stated in the first paragraph, and I say that can happen with both Survivor and LDoA.

/notsigned
Thank-you for actually explaining your opinion opposed to just saying "No". I agree that everyone could get it, however would everyone have the patience to do so? Maybe it should be possible that deaths reset when a campaign is completed or 1,000,000 XP is obtained - some high boundary could be used in order to reset the deaths and make it possible on our favorite characters.

It is a title track designed as a "challenge" to experience players, however I believe that it should be continuously open to all players, but still difficult to obtain. It is always extremely unfortunate when you are level 19 and you die, so you get no title what-so-ever.

It would however be nice to know some times on how oneself could actually obtain this particular title track. Does anyone have any tips?

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

/unsigned

The survivor track is from character creation to first death and thats the way it should stay.
It's far too easy to farm XP's for very little risk that virtually every character would become a Survivor(3) with a few hours work and make the whole track pretty much more worthless than it has become already.

Darklight Derv

Darklight Derv

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2008

Spartas Greatest Heroes [WAR]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldric
/unsigned

The survivor track is from character creation to first death and thats the way it should stay.
It's far too easy to farm XP's for very little risk that virtually every character would become a Survivor(3) with a few hours work and make the whole track pretty much more worthless than it has become already.
/unsigned

Exactly what he said.....if the title track would just reset itself every time somebody died, then eventually ever person in the game would have the Legendary Survivor (3) title, making it a worthless title, that you wouldn't feel proud of when you got it, cause almost every other person has it.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Eagle, the reasons are in previous Survivor Title Suggestions.

Taiya

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Aria of the Apocalypse

R/

Why not put a limit on the possible amount of resets, a reasonable figure, such as three?
And each reset increases the required amount of experience to reach rank three, at incrememnts of 200,000 or more.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

/notsigned for obvious reasons

Flying-Eagle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taiya
Why not put a limit on the possible amount of resets, a reasonable figure, such as three?
And each reset increases the required amount of experience to reach rank three, at incrememnts of 200,000 or more.
I totally agree. This would be fantastic.

arbiter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

that dwarven house in beacons perch

koss

W/

/signed, this has been suggested with many threads and many good suggestions to change the title, but anet will prob never change it....

The biggest issue is not so much that "oh u died u shouldnt be able to do it again" as much as many people's characters were created far in advance of this title being created, and therefore those people want a chance to get the title on their main characters who had died before the title existed.

MagmaRed

MagmaRed

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2007

Our Crabs Know True [LOVE]

R/

Search is your friend. Use it, then respond to one of the 4577534768764245 other topics about this.

/signed for a lock
/unsigned for a change

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

Doing a search for other threads like this would help.

pumpkin pie

pumpkin pie

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2006

behind you

bumble bee

E/

/signed if this is not done then i suggest the below

/signed for removal of survival title if the character ever dies because according to the logic of surviving, the character is not suppose to die even once. not before not after.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Maybe there should be a minimum number of posts required to create a new thread in this forum... say 10K.


EDIT: Anyways this has been asked so many times it isn't funny. The horse has been dead and no amount of beating will bring it back.

Pwnsome Bunny

Pwnsome Bunny

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

The Crystal Skull Brotherhood [TscB]

W/Mo

Ha, too bad that defeats the purpose of survivor title. Maybe they should make it so if you die then you get enough experience for survivor without dieing the title would say "I almost survived (1)" then if you die again and you start over you can get "I almost survived... again (2)" and so on lol. The last one should be "I have way too much experience (10)".

/not signed!

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

because its harder to get 1-20 without dying than 20-20 without dying

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

After the first time, getting from 1-20 is the easy part.

poasiods

poasiods

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

R/

I must say, this wouldn't change the way Survivor is usually obtained these days (FFF, snow wurm farming, and boxing), seeing alot of people seem to level up to 10, go over to EotN, and farm until they reach 1,337,500 experience points. It'll still be just a bunch of older characters farming for 1,337,500 experiences instead of fresh characters.

However, it would be a huge disappointment to people who actually try to play through the game and use only exp from quests, missions, and non-farming related monster killings for the title. Sometimes, I wish they'd put in a anti-exp-farming code which summons Shiro Tagachi with enchantment removal if a character enters the same zone 20 times each day without particular quests or anything.

Clarissa F

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Fighters of the Shiverpeaks

Me/Mo

Don't tell me...you have a limitation that keeps you from using the STUPID SEARCH BUTTON, eagle? Do you really think, in the time this title has been around, that no one came up with this idea??? Or is this a troll? You are not a unique little snowflake. Add it to one of the tons of other Survivor threads.

Respectfully request lock-down or merge with any of the hundred other "Change Survivor" threads. There will be no ideas that haven't been run into the ground on this subject.

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

R/

/notsigned.

It's not that hard. If you couldn't the first time, then too bad for you. It's not even that hard the old way doing quests/missions/killing, all you do is send the H/H ahead.

Kaleban

Kaleban

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Hot as hell Florida

[Wckd]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ALF71BE
/notsigned.

It's not that hard. If you couldn't the first time, then too bad for you.
Way to be fair to those who weren't eligible because they had the game so long that their "main" was never eligible in the first place.

As I mentioned in the HoM thread, I think all titles on an account should be checked by GW2 when seeing what unlocks/specials are available to new characters in GW2. So if you have one character (even not your main) who has LS3, then all characters in GW2 benefit.

And really, at this point, isn't title grinding pretty much solely for the GW2 benefit?

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

Everytime someone start a new Thread about changes in survivor, begin a fight between ppls like me with a "main" char with more 24 months that lost the chance to get a "unfair" "easy" title, taht every brainless ppls can reach... and i cant because my beloved cahr die before the arive of the title... and in the other side the gready ppls that start chars later and get the title...

Survivor is the only unfair title of the game...

/signed in changes to make survivor achieved for old chars...

Fallen Hunter

Fallen Hunter

I Saw That

Join Date: Mar 2006

The bushes

D/R

This has been suggested countless times. Use search, please. Closed.