CoP spike is FTW!!!!
I'm pretty sure it can clear Urgoz/FoW faster than Ursan can...
A Build Better Than Ursan?! (Gasp!)
Nude Nira
Tyla
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Originally Posted by fenix
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Shame it's bugged so it gives the damage all the time. Nerf imo, Mesmers are overpowered in PvE. |
fenix
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Originally Posted by Nude Nira
CoP spike is FTW!!!!
I'm pretty sure it can clear Urgoz/FoW faster than Ursan can... |
Sir Pandra Pierva
but so can ursan oh the imba
Stormlord Alex
So a crappy DSlasher without DSlash and SY! is better than Ursan?
'kay
/agree with pretty much everyone else in this thread
'kay
/agree with pretty much everyone else in this thread
Magikarp
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Originally Posted by fenix
It can't, people tried. It's weakness is the complete lack of defense, so it just explodes unless you carefully aggro. Ursan doesn't, you can aggro the whole world...
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for all it's worth, 8 monks could run it so long as one packs the lead hex.
beat THAT URSAN!
Antheus
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Just add a mesmer with, say, Diversion to every group of mobs. Then we can talk how overpowered it is.
If Ursan is the greatest, why do people need a terra tank for UW?
I would really really love to have Ursan in PvP. The mesmers would be grinning ear to ear.
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how do you figure? it's untied, independent, and works entirely on its own regardless of profession. for all it's worth, 8 monks could run it so long as one packs the lead hex. beat THAT URSAN |
Abedeus
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Originally Posted by Antheus
Just add a mesmer with, say, Diversion to every group of mobs. Then we can talk how overpowered it is.
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Mesmer players = underpowered (e-denial vs players is badass, e-denial vs mobs is craphole).
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If Ursan is the greatest, why do people need a terra tank for UW?
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Magikarp
mesmers will almost always hold that bad rep of "not as good in pve as the other classes", but i'll take my FC over SR and Energy Storage any day 
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Antheus
If Ursan is the greatest, why do people need a terra tank for UW?
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Besides, something tells me that if somone compromises only *one* build to do seccond hardest quest in HM, it does not exactly mean that whatever other thing they use is really weak.
Carboplatin
a snared ursan is useless.
its just because FoW and UW mobs are too weak to do anything. the occasional SS is the only thing that hurt them a little due to the spamming of skils.
its just because FoW and UW mobs are too weak to do anything. the occasional SS is the only thing that hurt them a little due to the spamming of skils.
Skyy High
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There is LOTS better than Ursan Skyy High, this just isn't it...
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And while one DSlasher-er may be better than 1 Ursan, 6 Ursans are better than 6 DSlashers. Chaining SY! is rather useless when 6 people are shouting it at once, and though the DPS may be greater, you are shut down easily by most high-end mobs, and you have less health and armor than an ursan.
Is it possible to put together a team build that works better than ursanway? Yes, definitely, but the time you spend putting it together and the skill required to run such builds is inordinately greater than the time spent organizing ursanway, and the skill required to run an ursan....which is the main reason why people say it's OP-ed.
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If Ursan is the greatest, why do people need a terra tank for UW?
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angmar_nite
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Originally Posted by Skyy High
Is it possible to put together a team build that works better than ursanway? Yes, definitely, but the time you spend putting it together and the skill required to run such builds is inordinately greater than the time spent organizing ursanway, and the skill required to run an ursan....which is the main reason why people say it's OP-ed.
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Snow Bunny
That build sucks shit.
Why is there even a thread on this?
Why is there even a thread on this?
Tab
I've been lead to believe that the OP is a Strong McEuro.
Airstu
OP = fail
/closethread
/closethread
Cathode_Reborn
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It can't, people tried. It's weakness is the complete lack of defense, so it just explodes unless you carefully aggro. Ursan doesn't, you can aggro the whole world...
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Ele/Me can bring wards/blind, P/Me can bring "TNTF", N/Me brings antimelee junk, Mo/Me heals/prots of course, Rt/Me helps with the partywide heals. Doesn't have to be exacly like that of course, but the point is if plenty of people have some kind of defense, stuff should be easy.
CoP changes your 2ndary (if not a Mes) and takes up only 1 skill on your bar. Now the 1-skill thing is good, right? Of course it is but, that's bad for average pug'er - they need someone to hold their hand and fill in the blanks because they don't know how. Ursan does that for them. It gives them damage/defense with 1 elite skill so they don't have to do any thinking.
Still, I really doubt Ursan could outdo a good CoP team - You just can't argue with a 1/4cast area-wide 100dmg skill.
Nightmares Hammer
Yes you can out-damage Ursan. Yes that is a shitty build.
Magikarp
out of everything that could come from this thread, please stop the excessive flaming guys. personally attacks on the OP are pointless and immature, no matter how awful the build is (which it is, im not defending that aspect lol).
i think the mods should probably come and close this anyhow
i think the mods should probably come and close this anyhow
Aba
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OP = fail /closethread |
Tyla
I summon Avarre the Mighty to close this thread. 
Or even Arkantos!
Please guys!
Or even Arkantos!
Please guys!
Red Sand
This thread is ridiculous. It is also amusing.
Skyy High
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I dunno. My guild doesn't take long to get the supports, imbagons, godmodes, monks, orders etc. sorted out. Faster than most ursan teams spend squabbling bout cons.
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Whirlwind
If ursan wasn't "overall" the most useful single skill, why would people need multi page threads to try and bring it down? Furthermore, why would it need to be brought down?
blooQkazoo
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[Steelfang Slash][Brawling Headbutt][Flail][Enraging Charge]["For Great Justice!"][Mental Block][Word of Healing][Vigorous Spirit] |
WoH?!?! Seriously?
You might as well be Lindsay Lohan because you are FAIL, my friend.
I hope this thread keeps going because I want to see all the flame from the other posters turn into a raging fire of funny.
Savio
This is Riverside Inn, not the build forum. And we close bad build threads in the build forum, so closed.