So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).
But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins. I go with imbagon into Slaver's exile dungeon. Bam! Soothing Images and Insidious Parasite landing on me again and again. Soothing alone destroys most paragon builds.
So I think about my options:
1. I can do ursan.
2. I can do ursan with fries
3. I can do mashed potatoes with a side of ursan
But no worries, I'll just go to Domain of Anguish. After several hours of waiting for a group, I enter the City. Bam! Vocal minority, Vocal minority, Vocal minority. I end up contributing nothing to the team.
How can I, as a paragon, contribute to the team in these areas? Why, by going ursan, it's the only option. Ursan, with it's pure skills, is not shutdown by these things, it does well in pve and it puts extra armor on top of an already high armor profession. Better than running paragon which can be shutdown by disabling shouts with hexes, punishing attacking with hexes, disabling adrenaline wiht hexes, blocking and miss enchants, conditions and hexes.
The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group.
The reason I need Ursan.
Spura
nugzta
That's what you get playing with pure healing monks which are the majority PvE monks.
Kyomi Tachibana
[Divert Hexes] Never leaves Tahlks' Bar.
Tyla
No, you're being closed minded towards the situation.
I've completed most of DoA with an Imbagon, and he had no problems.
Divert Hexes Monk, send melee in to take aggro, done.
And no, this game is not forcing you to Ursan, you should just find a decent guild, look at what the area has got and structure your party so it can finish.
Or just don't do it in Hard Mode and use them anyway.
I've completed most of DoA with an Imbagon, and he had no problems.
Divert Hexes Monk, send melee in to take aggro, done.
And no, this game is not forcing you to Ursan, you should just find a decent guild, look at what the area has got and structure your party so it can finish.
Or just don't do it in Hard Mode and use them anyway.
zwei2stein
I heard decent monks have hex removal for areas with hexes.
t/f?
Its only your and your groups ignorance that makes you go U/P. Just like rest of such people.
t/f?
Its only your and your groups ignorance that makes you go U/P. Just like rest of such people.
Esan
- I'm having Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, SYgon and Ursan.
- SYgons are off!
- Well, could I have Ursan instead then of the SYgon then?
- You mean Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, ...
[cue vikings]
- SYgons are off!
- Well, could I have Ursan instead then of the SYgon then?
- You mean Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, Ursan, ...
[cue vikings]
kobey
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BlackSephir
I'm unable to remove my hexes, I'm bad at GW, therefore I Ursan.
Agreed. It was created for people who are too, erm, "special" to deal with things like Conditions and Hexes.
Not only that, but also monks who go with ursan are terrible. No hex removal? Lawl!
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Not only that, but also monks who go with ursan are terrible. No hex removal? Lawl!
graverobber2
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and ...
... The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group. |
ogre_jd
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).
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As for your problems in the elite areas, well, you can always go P/Mo or P/Me if your Monks & Mesmers aren't packing any hex removal. And, of course, when playing with humans, always ctrl-click to call out the important hexes.
Proff
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Stormlord Alex
Ursan is made for 'tards who've never heard of hex removal, it seems.
xPIMPx
"But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins"
Tehe, I thought that was the only area SY was useful.
Tehe, I thought that was the only area SY was useful.
fenix
If you think that just because there are a few hexes in a zone, you need to run Ursan, then you are pretty dumb. There's a LOT of hex removal you can bring...just pick one and go with it, or hell, bring lots of it.
The Meth
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So I'm playing with my paragon main and wondering what should I run. Apparently, the only pve paragon build seems to be imbagon(with TNTF! + SY! and Focused Anger).
But once I hit high end pve, trouble begins. I go with imbagon into Slaver's exile dungeon. Bam! Soothing Images and Insidious Parasite landing on me again and again. Soothing alone destroys most paragon builds. So I think about my options: 1. I can do ursan. 2. I can do ursan with fries 3. I can do mashed potatoes with a side of ursan But no worries, I'll just go to Domain of Anguish. After several hours of waiting for a group, I enter the City. Bam! Vocal minority, Vocal minority, Vocal minority. I end up contributing nothing to the team. How can I, as a paragon, contribute to the team in these areas? Why, by going ursan, it's the only option. Ursan, with it's pure skills, is not shutdown by these things, it does well in pve and it puts extra armor on top of an already high armor profession. Better than running paragon which can be shutdown by disabling shouts with hexes, punishing attacking with hexes, disabling adrenaline wiht hexes, blocking and miss enchants, conditions and hexes. The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group. |
Daenara
I think this thread is just a troll tbh. I mean, no one can be that bad right?
As was said, if you're too bad to ensure there is some hex removal somewhere in your party, then you and Ursan make a lovely couple, and I wish you all the best.
As was said, if you're too bad to ensure there is some hex removal somewhere in your party, then you and Ursan make a lovely couple, and I wish you all the best.
Tyla
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I think this thread is just a troll tbh. I mean, no one can be that bad right?
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isamu kurosawa
[[expel hexes]
[[divert hexes]
notice a pattern yet?
Also, soothing dies in like 3 hits, hardly a counter if you're [[splinter weapon|splintering] around.
[[divert hexes]
notice a pattern yet?
Also, soothing dies in like 3 hits, hardly a counter if you're [[splinter weapon|splintering] around.
Skyy High
OP, you fail, mkay? If hexes are giving you trouble...bring a HEX REMOVAL.
Abedeus
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OP, you fail, mkay? If hexes are giving you trouble...bring a HEX REMOVAL.
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Sora267
Two words: HEX REMOVAL. Just because your monks are crap doesn't mean you should resort to Ursan...Find some better monks!
fenix
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It's not his fault Ursan doesn't need hex removals. There are no counters to that skill.
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NYC Elite
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Longasc
I suggest a petition to give bears healing and hex removal. This would stop the utter dependence on non-ursan healers.
The OP is the future target group of ANet. God beware people have to think and make use of skills and team builds to master a supposed *elite* area.
This is not funny anymore.
EDIT: Dammit, he is trolling and making fun of the forum.
Read his earlier postings about making the perfect paragon build with a dice and so on.
The OP is the future target group of ANet. God beware people have to think and make use of skills and team builds to master a supposed *elite* area.
This is not funny anymore.
EDIT: Dammit, he is trolling and making fun of the forum.
Read his earlier postings about making the perfect paragon build with a dice and so on.
isamu kurosawa
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It's not his fault Ursan doesn't need hex removals. There are no counters to that skill.
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I have a feeling that the part ursan teams struggle the most in uw will be chaos plains during horsemen. They seem dumb enough to spam their only real damage skill through [[diversion].
Clarissa F
Ooooo! Inspiration for Ursan nerf! Make it an enchantment. I can see it now. An Ursanway runs into an area. Bam! Rip Enchantment. QQ's follow like rain.
OP: as everyone else said, hex removal is your friend. It just takes one spot on your PVX-copied bar. Use it. If Hexes were as godly as you seem to believe, Mesmers would be a lot more powerful in PvE than they are.
/lock?
OP: as everyone else said, hex removal is your friend. It just takes one spot on your PVX-copied bar. Use it. If Hexes were as godly as you seem to believe, Mesmers would be a lot more powerful in PvE than they are.
/lock?
cebalrai
Yeah you can have success with paragons/imbagons, etc. But it will take longer and be more of a pain in the arse than if you use Ursan.
Ursan = Anet's biggest failure (ever).
Ursan = Anet's biggest failure (ever).
HuntMaster Avatar
I find it funny that a single skill affected all these people. How delicate.
I really want this skill, Sounds like it makes the game 100% easier. 1 skill could save hundreds of plat, Just get ursan and rock the entire game without spending anything else.
Ursan FTW! W/Mo's FTW! Know-it-all gamers FTL!
I really want this skill, Sounds like it makes the game 100% easier. 1 skill could save hundreds of plat, Just get ursan and rock the entire game without spending anything else.
Ursan FTW! W/Mo's FTW! Know-it-all gamers FTL!
Skyy High
You know what would also make the game a lot easier? Not playing anything but Old Ascalon.
Sounds fun, no?
Sounds fun, no?
Clarissa F
Most of the people complaining joined the game because it offered a challenge. You want an easy-win game, HuntMaster, I have an Atari 2600 with Space Invaders and Pacman for you.
angmar_nite
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I find it funny that a single skill affected all these people. How delicate.
I really want this skill, Sounds like it makes the game 100% easier. 1 skill could save hundreds of plat, Just get ursan and rock the entire game without spending anything else. Ursan FTW! W/Mo's FTW! Know-it-all gamers FTL! |
Darkobra
So you're a paragon struggling with hexes, hero monks remove hexes far faster than humans, you have hexbreaker aria to support the party for their hexes, there are a LOT of things you can do for one hex.
It's a terrible, terrible excuse. That's like saying "I got backfire on my flare spam, so I use Ursan instead! They're making me!"
It's a terrible, terrible excuse. That's like saying "I got backfire on my flare spam, so I use Ursan instead! They're making me!"
HuntMaster Avatar
lol, wow, very hostile. Nice! I don't play much anymore, and I havnt been around the ursan players so I don't understand why people hate it so much.
Is it because every group has or requires this skill and you just want to run your own build?
Is it because you work your ass off and any newb can use ursan and accomplish the same thing without needing to dedicate as much time as you do?
And as for working and challenge. I have beaten all the games, Ran over 4,000 farming runs and rushed 3 people through all the games, I'v done my fill of "Work" and the game is not challenging, its tedious. I simply would like a faster method of playing without running gear and builds and characters I do not want to play. I love how people try to judge and belittle how others play, constantly trying to dictate how I or others should play games. Labeling certain players noobs because of this reason or that. I say play however you like, enjoy the game.
Oh and grinding is nothing in this game. Grinding doesnt bother me at all. it actually gives me more to do after I'v beaten everything.
Seems almost all gamers are know it alls now, and pwning Mallyx is pretty cool, Hes not an easy target, Guess ursan is better than I thought. And again, Grinding is nothing special, I'm not good with online terms such as LB and SY and all that ubergamer stuff but I got lightbringer titles maxed really fast, Norn shouldnt take too long, I only grind titles after I beat a game so I get max point gain in Hardmode. Easy as pie. My one and only problem is time, I don't have that much to play now a days.But grinding 1 hour a day gets a title within a few days or so, depending on the title of course.
And thank you, I will have fun grinding norn pts, Grinding gets gold+ loot + a title. Not bad for just killing stuff.
Is it because every group has or requires this skill and you just want to run your own build?
Is it because you work your ass off and any newb can use ursan and accomplish the same thing without needing to dedicate as much time as you do?
And as for working and challenge. I have beaten all the games, Ran over 4,000 farming runs and rushed 3 people through all the games, I'v done my fill of "Work" and the game is not challenging, its tedious. I simply would like a faster method of playing without running gear and builds and characters I do not want to play. I love how people try to judge and belittle how others play, constantly trying to dictate how I or others should play games. Labeling certain players noobs because of this reason or that. I say play however you like, enjoy the game.
Oh and grinding is nothing in this game. Grinding doesnt bother me at all. it actually gives me more to do after I'v beaten everything.
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Ursans THINK they're know-it-all gamers. They gave themselves that title after pwning Mallyx. And have fun spending a few dozen hours grinding LB and Norn.
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And thank you, I will have fun grinding norn pts, Grinding gets gold+ loot + a title. Not bad for just killing stuff.
Clarissa F
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That's like saying "I got backfire on my flare spam, so I use Ursan instead! They're making me!"
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The argument isn't about fun playing the game. If you have something called Hard Mode, or an elite mission, does it make sense to allow the "casual player" , by definition not an elite player, to run through these parts of the game? You might as well get rid of HM.
BTW, did anyone notice that the win button is a bear? Kind of like another bear... http://llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivation...pveservers.jpg
lilraceangel3
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The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas.
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Abedeus
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Diversion? How many mobs use Diversion in pve? You still can autoattack. Or use the speed boost one to take off Diversion. Or wait 6 seconds ;d
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Alex the Great
Ursan isn't even that good, i've monked for some ursan teams ( /pulls hair out), and i've come to realize it's not how good your skills are, it's how well you can aggro, and think fast.
plus, the only real reason ursan teams are used imo are because they are fast and easy to set up. Earthshaker warriors can keep AoE KD's up faster, imbagons or Godmodes can give the party tons better protections than the ursan health and armour buffs. MM's make better tank walls. I've had ursan groups fail, where my guilds team without ursan passed with ease.
O ya, forgot, HEX REMOVAL. Somehow i managed to beat the area on my Godmode warrior, even though he fights close up, so there is even more shout-killing with [well of silence]
plus, the only real reason ursan teams are used imo are because they are fast and easy to set up. Earthshaker warriors can keep AoE KD's up faster, imbagons or Godmodes can give the party tons better protections than the ursan health and armour buffs. MM's make better tank walls. I've had ursan groups fail, where my guilds team without ursan passed with ease.
O ya, forgot, HEX REMOVAL. Somehow i managed to beat the area on my Godmode warrior, even though he fights close up, so there is even more shout-killing with [well of silence]
fenix
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High-energy staff kthxhai?
Diversion? How many mobs use Diversion in pve? You still can autoattack. Or use the speed boost one to take off Diversion. Or wait 6 seconds ;d And in communistic Soviet Union nobody was forced to be a commie. You could just allow them to kill ya ;d |
Avarre
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The choice is clear, so Anet is forcing me to ursan in those areas. At least now I can get a group.
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