I want to clearly state, that this is not a compare to any rpg or anything, neither any complains towards ANet.
So I was thinking to myself, why us, the GW community, always wants more? Lets take Runescape for example. I have been playing it for a very long time (stopped thought). I have NEVER encounted any complains about having new stuffs in RS, like places, weapons. Maybe it does exist, but in a far small amount.
Now, I'm asking myself, why? Is it because Runescape is monthly fee, so by the law they have to make new updates each month, and GW doesn't? Dont get me wrong, but, GW isnt monthly fee, but ANet KEEPS giving us stuffs! I'm sure, NONE would make an update like ANet did with SF, and giving us new greens at prophcies, doing so many updates, care so much about this game...Most are just making the game, releasing them, making some patches and leaving it like that.
I think we should be thankfull already for what anet does to us at the moment with all the updates, enough with all the whines we do. It is humans mind to whine, but we are doing it too much.
Thank you ANet...
Why we have so much abomination in GW?
mystical nessAL
Kyomi Tachibana
Ever heard the phrase: "Give someone an inch and they'll walk all over you."?
Well, I imagine it's something like that.
Well, I imagine it's something like that.
netniwk
Because they are doing everything they said they would never do?
(grind,PvE/PvP seperation,etc...)
(grind,PvE/PvP seperation,etc...)
kobey
People won't be satisfied with what they have. And the day human start being satisfied, is the day we stop progressing.
JR
Whining goes on in every game community. I can't speak for Runescape, but I'd be surprised if it was as healthy as you say. Take a look at other MMO forums, it's a simmilar story everywhere.
That said, I think the Guild Wars community has a rather jaded habit of always thinking the worst when there is anything open to speculation. Possibly if Anet didn't have a history of dropping the ball with community relations this may not be the case.
That said, I think the Guild Wars community has a rather jaded habit of always thinking the worst when there is anything open to speculation. Possibly if Anet didn't have a history of dropping the ball with community relations this may not be the case.
Abedeus
Actually, in other games there are cries about new things. In Ragnarok Online people were crying because Ninja was extremely overpowered in PvP/PvE (mainly caster - 1000 DPS with high dexterity and instant-cast) or that new bosses are too hard (lol 10mln health and wiping out 30 players at once...).
In Diablo 2 people were crying when Hammeradins were created - a paladin using Holy Hammer dealing 16k dmg with each hit. Or when new runewords turned rich people into Gods. I mean, barbarian has to run to you, right? And when he does Whirlwind he has to get somewhere, so he is at your mercy. But if he gets Teleport skill from the runeword Enigma (which also allows any class to have 90+ strength with no investment), he can teleport on your sorry ass, then whoop with Whirlwind. Or same goes for the aforementioned hammeradin.
And of course let's not forget W40k: Dark Crusade players, as some of them cried that Necron general can only resummon only double the normal army limit (before the patch he could have almost unlimited army - just like Necromancers in GW).
Because when 1 side is happy, the other one is sad.
In Diablo 2 people were crying when Hammeradins were created - a paladin using Holy Hammer dealing 16k dmg with each hit. Or when new runewords turned rich people into Gods. I mean, barbarian has to run to you, right? And when he does Whirlwind he has to get somewhere, so he is at your mercy. But if he gets Teleport skill from the runeword Enigma (which also allows any class to have 90+ strength with no investment), he can teleport on your sorry ass, then whoop with Whirlwind. Or same goes for the aforementioned hammeradin.
And of course let's not forget W40k: Dark Crusade players, as some of them cried that Necron general can only resummon only double the normal army limit (before the patch he could have almost unlimited army - just like Necromancers in GW).
Because when 1 side is happy, the other one is sad.
Fay Vert
Another whine thread (with a bad title) whining about whiners!
Stormlord Alex
ibtl
+1
and all the rest
Aren't there enough of these threads already?
+1
and all the rest
Aren't there enough of these threads already?
xmancho1
It's normally people to want more , but yes we should be more thankfull to ANet for making such a awesome game , of course there are some points i want to see improved but its not something very important like in other games. GW is the most balanced game in PVP and im very happy to be part of it 
Kurt
They have to keep us playing so we would switch to GW2 when it comes out ...
Magikarp
all games and communities have whiners, online and offline. there. close thread.
Vinraith
Any change that makes some people happy is going to make other unhappy. Major changes (PvE/PvP skill seperation) are going to make some people VERY happy and ruin the game for others, so you're going to see a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth (and rightly so, IMO).
kagenuma
u know what i dont care,coz im abusing english language as it seems.I cant either play GW or use forum as moderator told me. So i guess gw is over anyway as comunity. Go play PW
mystical nessAL
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all games and communities have whiners, online and offline. there. close thread.
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Darkobra
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Lets take Runescape for example. I have been playing it for a very long time (stopped thought). I have NEVER encounted any complains about having new stuffs in RS, like places, weapons.
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Abedeus
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Btw, whole your post is a bunch of jibberish. I have no freaking ideas what you mean by ,,what's that for an idea to make 90 mils title'' or ,,low one so all equal''. Plxor less Engrish more English.
It's A Me
i have to agree with abedeus. dude wtf? im not even english and i can type better than that.
whiners make the world go round, without them stuff wont happen, goes on everywhere. magikarp summed up the thread. close plesh
whiners make the world go round, without them stuff wont happen, goes on everywhere. magikarp summed up the thread. close plesh
aapo
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Any change that makes some people happy is going to make other unhappy.
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Red Sonya
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Because they are doing everything they said they would never do?
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and more loot of higher quality (unlimited neverending) Anet might as well go full force now into the MMORPGway cause that's what the MAJORITY of people want. A NO MONTHLY FEE WOW. They will make millions going that route instead of the stale max level 20 and 15^50 weapons with very few usable mods for them. Need some haste mods and invisibility and levitate skills which I hope to see in GW2.
IlikeGW
The game is literally designed to kill its own longevity, hence it's boring after awhile. This is common knowledge, so expect irritation from customers used to games that are designed "for the game's sake" to be fun long-term, vs. GW which is designed for Anet's sake to constantly put out new versions.
Gregslot
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Epic win ;d!
That's probably just a coincidence that they are selling an expansion giving the most overpowered piece of crap in the whole world of gaming to attract new customers, instead nerfing it. Btw, whole your post is a bunch of jibberish. I have no freaking ideas what you mean by ,,what's that for an idea to make 90 mils title'' or ,,low one so all equal''. Plxor less Engrish more English. |
This forum is filled with unhappy people, thats about the only reason they come here for: to complain about the game.
This might sound gay, but its absolutely true.
Most of the people here are with their hearts broken. Broken by the game. We all had a nice view of the game and we fell in love with it and once the game stopped corresponding with our expectatives, we desperetdly started begging for that "love" to come back. Since it never came back, we got angry and here we are.
For those who say this is bullshit should give it a little thought, because in life we can fall in love with anything that makes us fell good, does not matter if it is a person, an object or something abstract.
This is the tipical behaviour of someone who is with the heart broken. If you ever fell in love with anything you will agree with me on this:
The feelings of falling in love to the "not-in-love-anymore" follow this:
*Suprise
*Love
*Desillusion
*Anger
*Comprehension
*Indiference
Where you at?
Or even better, where do you want to be?
Murmel
A lil' bit off topic here but... Runescape has a monthly fee x.x?
N1ghtstalker
QQ'ers go Q.Q and Anet gives them what they want so the QQ stops
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This might sound gay, but its absolutely true. ... |
N'ways, I think I noticed the reason ( finally someone that answers the OP's question ) why people are so bitter on GW. I already said it before in another thread, that it's not GW that's super flawed, it's just that the other games are so messy and bugged that the players cant even notice and/or care about the developer's mistakes.
LockerLoad
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Learn to express yourself son.
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Gay: having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
or
Gay: homosexual
Either way you telling another to learn to express themselves is the pinnacle of Hypocrisy.
Edit: I do however agree with your assessment of why people are upset by the de-evolution of GW.
Nightmares Hammer
There's always room for improvement.
blooQkazoo
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Ever heard the phrase: "Give someone an inch and they'll walk all over you."?
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Other than that, I agree with you there.
StormDragonZ
Pessimistic Answer: ANet realized in order to be successful... you have to start a lot of problems to fix later on to make it seem like they're doing something productive and helpful.
Regular Answer: ANet realized in order to be successful... you have to know what the majority of current MMORPG or just RPG gamers like, want and enjoy... apparently, majority does win over minority.
Flaming Answer: ANet realized in order to be successful... they hate you personally and enjoy watching you complain over and over because you still technically show life to their already mixed bag of a community.
Regular Answer: ANet realized in order to be successful... you have to know what the majority of current MMORPG or just RPG gamers like, want and enjoy... apparently, majority does win over minority.
Flaming Answer: ANet realized in order to be successful... they hate you personally and enjoy watching you complain over and over because you still technically show life to their already mixed bag of a community.
Yuhe Ji
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Balan Makki
GW is Arena Nets flagship product (only product). They're just doing what it takes to succeed. And succeed they have. My guess is GW2 will blow the doors off the old Evercrack MMO genre. What they've done is diametrically polar to the WoW/Evercrack gerbil wheel template, and it has worked wonders. If they stay the course, they'll be the counter-culture MMO. More likely the trend setters:
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If they stay the course, they'll be the counter-culture MMO. More likely the trend setters
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GW is no where near as "trend setting" as it was when it was announced/in beta. They went from their own "Competitive RPG"-genre to a wannabee-MMO with no monthly fees.
I seriously hope they put some of their original ideas back in GW2.
aapo
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GW is Arena Nets flagship product (only product). They're just doing what it takes to succeed. And succeed they have. My guess is GW2 will blow the doors off the old Evercrack MMO genre. What they've done is diametrically polar to the WoW/Evercrack gerbil wheel template, and it has worked wonders. If they stay the course, they'll be the counter-culture MMO. More likely the trend setters:
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Kyomi Tachibana
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I'm almost absolutely sure that the phrase goes something more like, "Give someone an inch and they'll take a mile." (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Red Sonya
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The game is literally designed to kill its own longevity, hence it's boring after awhile. This is common knowledge, so expect irritation from customers used to games that are designed "for the game's sake" to be fun long-term, vs. GW which is designed for Anet's sake to constantly put out new versions.
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I don't know what GW2 will bring in the form of longevity, but, since the engine is going to be like the origional in that there is no monthly fee they have got to provide more content. I'd think kinda like Bethesda/Oblivion is doing it, but, these small content worlds die out fast when you've done everything and there's no loot worth going after because it's all the same stats no matter where it drops. Kinda like Shania Twain sings that song "Looks Don't Impress Me Much" I want power and unlimited power and neverending power so I can play the game for years like I did Everquest. I'd still play Everquest if it was "no monthly fee" or they made it solo friendlier like LDON. Man if they made LDON soloable I'd go back in a moments notice.
Xx_Sorin_xX
have you considered that you answered your own question? You wonder why GW is more negative, and in order to find out, you create a negative thread. Hmm..
It seems to be an ever increasing spiral towards complete negativity.
It seems to be an ever increasing spiral towards complete negativity.
samifly
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- Press back button in your browser and count the number of whining threads on this forum. Then go ahead and count the number of whining threads on Diablo II forums. Surprising difference, eh?
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RPGmaniac
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Did extra stash space make some people unhappy? Did adding extra dye colors and build templates make some people unhappy? Learn to make difference between constructive additions and controversial decisions kthx.
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People will never be completely satisfied. Not only that but you can't please everybody. Therefore, there will always be people complaining about any game.
The BMP is a good example. When it was available through the promotion only people complained about its exclusivity. When Anet decided to to cave and sell it in the online store, people flipped out because they either didn't like that anybody could get it or that they felt they paid $30 for something that was now being sold for $10.
HuntMaster Avatar
I for one do not have THAT many problems with GW. Plus I don't start threads to rant about what I want. But I too fall in the complainer catagory when dealing with.
Additude of the player community.
Desire for 7 heroes.
Desire for merchants to buy items at higher prices.
Improvement of henchmen or replacement of henchmen by heroes.
Improvement of anet support
Better drop rates on good items.
Lower drop rates on crap drops
level 20 monsters dropping non max weapons.
So I do want some things changed, but I know that it will only happen if half the player base agrees, which they won't.
PS: Runescape = PU.
Additude of the player community.
Desire for 7 heroes.
Desire for merchants to buy items at higher prices.
Improvement of henchmen or replacement of henchmen by heroes.
Improvement of anet support
Better drop rates on good items.
Lower drop rates on crap drops
level 20 monsters dropping non max weapons.
So I do want some things changed, but I know that it will only happen if half the player base agrees, which they won't.
PS: Runescape = PU.
mystical nessAL
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have you considered that you answered your own question? You wonder why GW is more negative, and in order to find out, you create a negative thread. Hmm..
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Abedeus
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