what is sway

yamz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Battle for Your Life

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hey i started HA and i really love it
i was wonder what sway stands for and what a sway team is and whats the basics of it
thanks

Rogue42

Rogue42

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:Team_-_Sway

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Sway stands for Spirit way. It is a team of 2 N/Rt healers, 1 Expel Rit, 2 Trappers, and 3 R/D Scythe rangers. Some positions can change, such as Nukers for Trappers and such. The trappers, Rit and N/rits carry spirits that fuel the Necro's Soul Reaping on death. It is designed to quickly overpower the other team for easy fame. It is the easiest team to set up and takes close to no skill, so it is a staple of new HA players.

Edit: Rogue beat me

Snograt

Snograt

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Still doesn't tell him what Sway actually stands for - SpiritWay? ScytheWay? SpikeWay?

Note - by "him" I mean "me"

[edit]Poo - slow typing again :/

natural_Causes

natural_Causes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snograt
Still doesn't tell him what Sway actually stands for - SpiritWay? ScytheWay? SpikeWay?

Note - by "him" I mean "me"

[edit]Poo - slow typing again :/
Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
Sway stands for Spirit Way
Says it right there

Marverick

Marverick

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Join Date: Aug 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
Sway stands for Spirit way. It is a team of 2 N/Rt healers, 1 Expel Rit, 2 Trappers, and 3 R/D Scythe rangers. Some positions can change, such as Nukers for Trappers and such. The trappers, Rit and N/rits carry spirits that fuel the Necro's Soul Reaping on death. It is designed to quickly overpower the other team for easy fame. It is the easiest team to set up and takes close to no skill, so it is a staple of new HA players.

Edit: Rogue beat me
Except spirit deaths don't trigger soul reaping.

Ron Ng

Ron Ng

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
Except spirit deaths don't trigger soul reaping.
It doesn't? When did they do that?

graverobber2

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marverick
Except spirit deaths don't trigger soul reaping.
yes it does, but only for the one who created the spirit

Snograt

Snograt

rattus rattus

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by natural_Causes
Says it right there
Hence my edit about slow typing - You posted your response while I was still hunt-and-pecking

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

It stands for "Shitway".

Musei Karasu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by graverobber2
yes it does, but only for the one who created the spirit
No it doesn't.

For each point of Soul Reaping, you gain 1 Energy whenever a non-Spirit creature near you dies.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Reaping

Pesi

Pesi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Before Sway was "spirit way" loads of spirit spammin Rt's.

Now its most known as "Schyte way" a shit load of R/D's running around in HA farming fame without tactics. With useally a snare RT, and N healers.
Some play this gimmick build in GvG aswell but not as successful, Any team with tactics should be able to win vs this.

Dobermann

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

its crap and any HA'er with any respect wld run anything other than this nonsense

Onyx Blindbow

Onyx Blindbow

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Join Date: Nov 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
It stands for "Shitway".
I always LOL when ppl call HA builds.

Apart from balanced teams the majority of HA is whatever cookiecutter garners the most fame at that particular time, sway is effective hence it is now called lame, noob, shitway etc... doesn't change the fact that it works and even rolls ranked teams at times

ppl bomb on it because anyone can play it, which upsets the elitism of HA, frankly I find that funny.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

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Im still amused that "Will Avenge You" is what the WAY in IWAY was, WAY doesnt even belong in the name of these builds
so actually i guess it stands for...
S pirit W ill A venge Y ou
:S

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onyx Blindbow
I always LOL when ppl call HA builds.

Apart from balanced teams the majority of HA is whatever cookiecutter garners the most fame at that particular time, sway is effective hence it is now called lame, noob, shitway etc... doesn't change the fact that it works and even rolls ranked teams at times

ppl bomb on it because anyone can play it, which upsets the elitism of HA, frankly I find that funny.
Put it this way.

Player 1 wants to learn to play and have fun at HA running real builds, but is quite inexperienced.
Player 2 wants lots and lots of fame for some flashy emote so he can /rank to take the piss out of whoever, making the Hero title more of a laughing stock than it ever was.

Player 1 can't get better, because he can't beat Sway and resorts to Sway, so he's in the same category as Player 2. Either that, or he just quits HA.

Some people manage to get to play decent builds, some don't.

The thing is, Sway is a brainless buttonmashing build that can beat mediocre players with nought skill required. It further degenerates HA, and not only because of it's skill level, it gets a bad name aswell as being some crappy cookie-cutter.

It's already doomed to farmers anyway.

Dustinharlin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
Put it this way.

Player 1 wants to learn to play and have fun at HA running real builds, but is quite inexperienced.
Player 2 wants lots and lots of fame for some flashy emote so he can /rank to take the piss out of whoever, making the Hero title more of a laughing stock than it ever was.

Player 1 can't get better, because he can't beat Sway and resorts to Sway, so he's in the same category as Player 2. Either that, or he just quits HA.

Some people manage to get to play decent builds, some don't.

The thing is, Sway is a brainless buttonmashing build that can beat mediocre players with nought skill required. It further degenerates HA, and not only because of it's skill level, it gets a bad name aswell as being some crappy cookie-cutter.

It's already doomed to farmers anyway.
After player one goes through puberty he will realize that he doesn't need to prove himself in a game and will do HA only for the fame to get a spiffy emote. Then both player one and two will like Sway so everyone will be happy.

Onyx Blindbow

Onyx Blindbow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

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90% of the ppl that play in HA do so for RANK and fame, so ppl can look at them and go OMGz R<insert rank here> how leet, then proceed to bambi them until they emote their wolf/tiger/phoenix etc...

the remaining 10% are hardcore PvP who know the game inside out so don't use sway as they can roll it with their balanced builds (which if you look at them are all similar anyway with the exception of SoG who got nerf out of existence and are now playing the balanced build)

Ec]-[oMaN

Ec]-[oMaN

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Sway ownz

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
It stands for "Shitway".
QFT. .

Targuil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2007

Tampere, Finland

Keep Dreaming [Yawn]

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Don't play sway, it's free fame for opposing party.

yamz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

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well thanks everyone but i want to get good and learn the ropes but its impossible to get into a group with out rank and i dont want to be a noobie sway
what is the best way?

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Friends list and guildies and work your way up.

Or resort to it and when you get to a decent rank quit it and play real, decent builds.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

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it's a kind of cake

Cathode_Reborn

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

imo It's honestly fine to run if you're new and inexperienced. You don't just walk into HA and expect a group to take you.....with Sway though, you get a group within minutes. If you have no rank and don't wanna run Sway, the other option is hoping your friends have friends that are willing to let you join a team. For a casual pve'er though, it's not always easy. Another option is joining a PvP guild that accepts unranked/lower ranked players.

Get in a few Sway groups, rank up, but don't be lazy - learn the basics of HA while you're at it. Try to improve your skill. Don't expect the rest of the team to do the work for you otherwise you'll learn nothing and you'll just be another r3 that knows nothing. Still though, there is a few r3's out there that you'd think are alot higher ranked.