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igor, dont think this build is lol, cause it real works~!! "Oh rly it looks crap but it works trust me!! Test it, now, rly, it works...rly..."

Amirite?

Anyway, the concept is fine, it does deal a lot of conditional but high damage, wont use it iver sabway surely but the concept is still interesting.

Problem, and fail, starts when you get to monk spells, Infuse is terribad on heroes, they sometime would spam their head of with it...not good, especially with lack of blocking which as sab has shown in new 3 nec vanquish is crucial for 60AL squishy. Healing cercle is bad, cool lets heal all the melee that is able to ruin your day so it wont die before we do...great, no, sorry but healing mobs around me is no good.

imo, give two necs some restoration skills, aweasome ones like wepon of warding, life, SL and MBaS, give one nec some prots and dwayna's sorrow, the aweasomesausical party wide heal from minions, and you would be fine.

Problem, and fail, starts when you get to monk spells, Infuse is terribad on heroes, they sometime would spam their head of with it...not good, especially with lack of blocking which as sab has shown in new 3 nec vanquish is crucial for 60AL squishy. Healing cercle is bad, cool lets heal all the melee that is able to ruin your day so it wont die before we do...great, no, sorry but healing mobs around me is no good.

imo, give two necs some restoration skills, aweasome ones like wepon of warding, life, SL and MBaS, give one nec some prots and dwayna's sorrow, the aweasomesausical party wide heal from minions, and you would be fine. After vanquishing most of EotN and doing a few HM missions with this setup, phys attackers have never really been the cause of a death. Enfeebling Blood alone makes them weak. The better defense comes from "You move like a Dwarf". It's a dual purpose skill - it can interrupt casters because it's an insta KD, and cripple melee making them useless. Because AP recharges all skills, every enemy you target is gonna get it. As for Healing Circle, you might think mobs get healed by it but that's rarely the case. A heroes' first reaction when a melee gets in range is to kite. Often they'll kite themselves out of adjacent range from most of the team. HC doesn't heal the caster so obviously they're not gonna use it. I have seen melee get healed by it on a rare occassion, but they die fast anyways so I'm not worried about that. As for Infuse, I'm not sure about this "spam" - I've never seen them spam it or use it wastefully (besides out of combat minion-healing) and I've also seen it make some saves on a few rare occasions.

I'm still deciding if I really want blocks or not. I've thought about Spirit Light/Wep of Warding but to be honest, I'd fight nothing but phys mobs if I could because they're easy to kill. If phys attackers somehow become a threat, you're probably doing something wrong or are bad prioritizing targets. Ele's with aoe have been the biggest threats so far but if I really need to, Technobabble makes a joke out of them. I prefer "Ymlad" just because it's alot more versatile.

Imo, if healing cercle doesnt give you anything in battle except occasionally healing melee, why use it? Even weakened some mobs can deal massive...and I mean >>MASSIVE<< damage, thois why I personally go on overkill with blocks and melee hate, with caster you can deal ok, just kite for their hits, spread, but kiting from lelee that move nearly twice as fast than you gets much harder and much more painful as hits in the back are always critical. This why making melee live any longer is not good and blocking stuff is so important especially when facing mobs like Destroers, Jade Brotherhood Knights and Charr Archers. Rit spels have insane heal, it is good, and no matter what, make sure you take a spammable mean of blocking it helps, the fact of you lacking prot is slso quite bad, ditching a spirit bond on necro's bar is never bad. Healing Circle actually helps deal with some aoe pressure. I rarely ever see it heal melee mobs - they're usually either crippled or busy attacking minions.

Sure Weakness won't stop all melee, but with AP recharging "Ymlad" to spam cripple+KD on everything and all the spike power that's in the build, how could melee ever be a real threat? They're often free easy corpses. The only times melee can actually do any decent damage is usually when it's a derv using aoe junk or Twisting Jaws bs coming from Dinos...and blocking obviously won't do crap there. Other than that, melee are just something you "lol" at.

Now casters.....they're the ones that have a decent chance at scoring kills.

Can anyone post this on wiki PvX, then more people are going to test this, because its faster then sabway, and its even powerfull, but it requieres a necro (human), thats the only problem. Maybe change to ritualist healer, cause some skills infuse and healing ring they dont used as much as it can/should.

~Master 1. PvX wiki is full of idiots who havent tested a build in years.
2. this in no way requires a human necro. the only nessicary skill on that bar that is not a pve skill is assassin's promise.




anywhoo, my rit is loving this build. its really easy to tage a target for the necros and then throw out a few support spells and tag another. Ill post my variation once i perfect it.

just one piece of advice though: the necros are a little slow at using discord, so i bound all of my hero's 'cast skill 1' commands to one button. i think this is impossible from in guild wars though. Im using an ideazon merc so it was easy to bind, and the heroes are doing great when i give them a little more direction.

just one piece of advice though: the necros are a little slow at using discord, so i bound all of my hero's 'cast skill 1' commands to one button. i think this is impossible from in guild wars though. Im using an ideazon merc so it was easy to bind, and the heroes are doing great when i give them a little more direction. I'm so clueless when it comes to macros but I might have to try that out. Sometimes I want them to cast Discord on a target but they're busy doing other stuff so I binded all 3 Discords to 3 keys. I usually never micro it, but was doing it alot in Slaver's - being able to spike targets clean before the monks could do anything helps alot.

As for the player's bar, a human Nec isn't needed of course. I'd still recommend use of Assassin's Promise combined with some pve skills. Each class has some good skills that primary nec can't use:

A Mes can use Cry of Pain for insane aoe damage. An Ele could bring Intensity for a perma damage boost. An A/Me could spec higher into Deadly arts giving more energy and time to kill the target from AP. A Rit could help blow up stuff with Splinter spam. A monk spec'd into Smiting could actually cast Judge's Intervention on minions for some random huge single-target damage. Those are just some examples.

I'm so clueless when it comes to macros but I might have to try that out. Sometimes I want them to cast Discord on a target but they're busy doing other stuff so I binded all 3 Discords to 3 keys. I usually never micro it, but was doing it alot in Slaver's - being able to spike targets clean before the monks could do anything helps alot. what i have is the 3 discords set to , . and ; and then one of my macro keys set to hit all three. and yeah, the splinter spam is great. my casting order has been like this for a few days.
Ap>ymlad>discord spike>splinter>AR>repeat.... every 5 seconds. its nice

I don't like the way they rate stuff on PvX. They're also always quick to bash you for not bringing a Res in pve. When I actually used to bring one, it was a fat waste of space more than half the time. Very true... I'm actually surprised that I managed to get one 5-vetted build over there. Still the first replies to THAT build were of the "diz sux" variety with absolutely no thought involved... and I have some truly epic discussions among my build talks...

Very true... I'm actually surprised that I managed to get one 5-vetted build over there. Still the first replies to THAT build were of the "diz sux" variety with absolutely no thought involved... and I have some truly epic discussions among my build talks... technobabble isnt spammable moloch lol (MoP nuker talk) i fell off my chair when i read that