People in-game are being rude and telling me to check wiki, but theres no page for it. Someone please?
Caster sword?
ThunderinHammerdin
Can anyone tell me the mods needed for a Caster Sword?
People in-game are being rude and telling me to check wiki, but theres no page for it. Someone please?
People in-game are being rude and telling me to check wiki, but theres no page for it. Someone please?
Yichi
The mods are normally a sword with +5 energy and either +20% enchants (which is dumb) or hp+30
obsidian ectoplasm
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Originally Posted by Yichi
The mods are normally a sword with +5 energy and either +20% enchants (which is dumb) or hp+30
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errr...why is 20% enchants dumb?
The forth fly
wouldn't be a caster sword with out the 20% ench
Ghostcell
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Originally Posted by obsidian ectoplasm
errr...why is 20% enchants dumb?
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aznhalf
Because if you're casting enchantments you shouldn't be in your shield set anyways. 40 HCT/20 HRT/20 enchant staff is a good way to go for enchants in most cases.
In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better.
In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better.
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by The forth fly
wouldn't be a caster sword with out the 20% ench
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Use a staff for enchant casting.
TheLordOfBlah
usually a sword w. +5 energy, 30 health, always used as part of a "defensive" weapon set, for the shield you would have +30 health, +10 armor vs X damage type.
October Jade
Do caster heroes use melee weapons effectively? I don't have access to GW right now, else I'd check myself. I am curious to know whether, for example, a sword+shield Vekk would be unnecessarily running into combat all the time.
This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.
This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.
Crom The Pale
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Originally Posted by October Jade
Do caster heroes use melee weapons effectively? I don't have access to GW right now, else I'd check myself. I am curious to know whether, for example, a sword+shield Vekk would be unnecessarily running into combat all the time.
This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help. |
Konig Des Todes
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Originally Posted by October Jade
This is for the middle AI option, btw. Setting him to "avoid" wouldn't be much help.
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GaaaaaH
I'd call a 'caster' mod +5 energy, 20% enchant.
not saying that its a good set, just thats what is usually meant.
This is similar to the 'perfect' 20/20, 15^50, 30hp set.
EDIT: If the buyers are being rude, tell them to GTFO and find someone nice to sell to.
not saying that its a good set, just thats what is usually meant.
This is similar to the 'perfect' 20/20, 15^50, 30hp set.
EDIT: If the buyers are being rude, tell them to GTFO and find someone nice to sell to.
Yichi
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Originally Posted by aznhalf
Because if you're casting enchantments you shouldn't be in your shield set anyways. 40 HCT/20 HRT/20 enchant staff is a good way to go for enchants in most cases.
In fact you shouldn't be casting much at all out of a defensive set so +20 enchants is pretty useless. +60hp +18al is much better. |
scythefromunder
I think question has been answered plenty of times. I give a +1.
xDusT II
Most people use the "standard" caster sword because they are either too lazy to switch weapons for specific casts, or don't care about optimisation, or both.
Lady Lozza
My understanding of the caster sword, as opposed to the defensive set, was that certain spells (in pve) were determined by the type of weapon you are carrying. Therefore by carrying a sword the enemy will preferentially cast empathy (rather than backfire) on you. This is just what I've been told by people calling me a "noob" for carrying and changing several caster sets in various dungeons - despite the fact I kept well out of casting range but that's another matter.
If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements
If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements
cataphract
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
If you are too lazy to switch between mobs, which many players are, and you are a monk the 20% enchant is usually a good thing. I've never seen the point of the 20% enchant on an ele carrying only attunements
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DarkFlame
First of the caster martial weapons was the Totem Axe, which is +5 energy and +20% enchant. Like GaaaaaH said, it may not be all that good, but thats the first thing that comes to mind for caster moded martial weapons.
MStarfire
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Originally Posted by cataphract
My ele always carries a sword. Looks way better than any wand.
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tmakinen
To me, a 'caster sword' is any inscribable one-hand weapon with a requirement over 9 (and sometimes even that) ... it's the user's responsibility to mod it as s/he sees fit. There are several completely valid options:
My PvE ele has four different 'caster swords' (actually, just one sword and three spears) for specific purposes. Calling some option 'dumb' just because the person in question doesn't him/herself do things that require the particular option is pretty narrow-minded, now isn't it?
- +5e for most casters
- 10% HSR for elementalists who don't need that extra energy
- +15% dmg/-5e if it's a part of a negative energy set (and there are more uses for that than just shielding from e-denial)
- +30HP if it's a part of a shield set
- +20% enchant for several farming builds that won't work without (and many of them also require a shield with a specific +10AL inscription so a staff is out of question)
My PvE ele has four different 'caster swords' (actually, just one sword and three spears) for specific purposes. Calling some option 'dumb' just because the person in question doesn't him/herself do things that require the particular option is pretty narrow-minded, now isn't it?
joshuarodger
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Originally Posted by scythefromunder
I think question has been answered plenty of times. I give a +1.
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S_Serpent
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Originally Posted by tmakinen
To me, a 'caster sword' is any inscribable one-hand weapon with a requirement over 9 (and sometimes even that) ... it's the user's responsibility to mod it as s/he sees fit. There are several completely valid options:
My PvE ele has four different 'caster swords' (actually, just one sword and three spears) for specific purposes. Calling some option 'dumb' just because the person in question doesn't him/herself do things that require the particular option is pretty narrow-minded, now isn't it? |
This has been the best aswer in this topic, but this original question has been asked so much times.
I got 4 different caster swords and 4 different caster spear depending on the use I need them, all can be found with mods spoken by tmakinen
+5E / +30HP
+5E / 20% longer enchant
-5E & +15% dmg / +30 HP
HSR 10% / 20% longer enchant
gerlin
My monk uses a caster sword with 20% enchant and a defensive shield. I prefer the 20% enchant because with that i have a 6 second guardian instead of 5 which makes a world of a difference.
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale
If a hero has a weapon and is not set on Passive(last option) he will use that weapon to attack. If you give a melee weapon to a caster he will charge into melee range to use it.
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Yichi
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Originally Posted by DarkFlame
First of the caster martial weapons was the Totem Axe, which is +5 energy and +20% enchant. Like GaaaaaH said, it may not be all that good, but thats the first thing that comes to mind for caster moded martial weapons.
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But yes a caster sword can come in a variant of styles and mods. Personal preference is that a staff w/ 20% enchants is much more efficient than a 20% enchanting sword unless its for a farming build such as 55 monking.
The Meth
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
My understanding of the caster sword, as opposed to the defensive set, was that certain spells (in pve) were determined by the type of weapon you are carrying. Therefore by carrying a sword the enemy will preferentially cast empathy (rather than backfire) on you. This is just what I've been told by people calling me a "noob" for carrying and changing several caster sets in various dungeons - despite the fact I kept well out of casting range but that's another matter.
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Funk ee Monk ee
I've always thought the general consensus was a caster wep (+5 energy and +20% enchantments) was meant for solo farming to extend A/S Visage, Shield of Judgement, Protective Spirit, Shadow Form, etc.
/agree anyone playing anything but solo farming should have a 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand. An extra 5 energy will not make a difference *if* you use even minimal energy maintenance (ie, waiting until someone is below 50% health to cast WoH or Zealous Benediction, etc).
and to OP, I personally do not find it 'rude' to suggest that someone look something up on wiki. If it is not on wiki it will be on guru. Research and common sense are your friends
/agree anyone playing anything but solo farming should have a 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand. An extra 5 energy will not make a difference *if* you use even minimal energy maintenance (ie, waiting until someone is below 50% health to cast WoH or Zealous Benediction, etc).
and to OP, I personally do not find it 'rude' to suggest that someone look something up on wiki. If it is not on wiki it will be on guru. Research and common sense are your friends
isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Yichi
unless its for a farming build such as 55 monking.
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Yichi
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
Which in my opinion should never be counted towards general tactics or skill/equip useage.
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It's a vicious cycle
Parson Brown
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tmakinen
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Which goes back to why I said 20% enchants on a Martial Weapon outside of farming builds is a dumb idea
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I would also hazard a guess that when measured by the volume of trading, caster swords intended for farming use vastly outnumber the rest of the categories, so dismissing that part as insignificant is disingenuous at best.
Also, another valid use for caster swords in PvE is monsters' tendency to cast hexes based on the equipment you're carrying. As a monk or elementalist, I much prefer getting hexed with Empathy or Clumsiness over Migraine or Frustration. Because of the liberal application of hexes, especially in Hard Mode, it is often not feasible to switch to wand/staff for casting.
The Way Out
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Well, actually you said that 20% enchant on a martial weapon is a dumb idea period but I'll gracefully accept the refinement of the argument
I would also hazard a guess that when measured by the volume of trading, caster swords intended for farming use vastly outnumber the rest of the categories, so dismissing that part as insignificant is disingenuous at best. Also, another valid use for caster swords in PvE is monsters' tendency to cast hexes based on the equipment you're carrying. As a monk or elementalist, I much prefer getting hexed with Empathy or Clumsiness over Migraine or Frustration. Because of the liberal application of hexes, especially in Hard Mode, it is often not feasible to switch to wand/staff for casting. |
NoXiFy
energy+5 and 20% enchants are best. For the prefix, most people are retarded and say OMFG FK FK FK IT NEEDS AN ICY MOD TO BE PRFECT WUTS WRONG WIT U? Me personally, I use a Furious (10%) mod as every other mod serves me no purpose at all. The furious 10% is useful because it can actually have a purpose, if for whatever reason you put an adreneline skill on your bar, you can wand them with your spear oor axe w/e and will benefit, rather than it serving no purpose other than 1-3 dmg every 3 seconds. -_-
S_Serpent
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Originally Posted by NoXiFy
energy+5 and 20% enchants are best. For the prefix, most people are retarded and say OMFG FK FK FK IT NEEDS AN ICY MOD TO BE PRFECT WUTS WRONG WIT U? Me personally, I use a Furious (10%) mod as every other mod serves me no purpose at all. The furious 10% is useful because it can actually have a purpose, if for whatever reason you put an adreneline skill on your bar, you can wand them with your spear oor axe w/e and will benefit, rather than it serving no purpose other than 1-3 dmg every 3 seconds. -_-
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