Hi,
as many of you would have probably noticed people constantly spam in local chat with their trades and i clearly remember the announcement Anet made in the past that trading in local chat could be punished
but it still happens, it annoys me
now i know people will say that you gotta switch your local chat of and stop QQ'ing but sometimes while there's a groupsconversation in the city i like to stop by and have a chat with the people there
and those sociable people that are talking are constantly interfered with the massive tradespam in their local chat
i am okay with pricechecking in local chat
the local chat is there for talking to other players and asking for help or just have a nice chat
PC is to me not considered as a trade
an argument on this:
when people use local chat for trading it will put other players to do the same which will cause even more trade in local chat, people will think that it is okay to trade in local chat
oppinions please
What happened to prohibition on Trading in Local chat?
N1ghtstalker
Abedeus
/report, then flame him and put on ignore list.
N1ghtstalker
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/report, then flame him and put on ignore list.
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i'm a bit scared to get suspended myself for reporting others that trade in local chat
Richardt
If there was a "Trading in All Chat" option on /report I would so report those people.
As it is, the closest that we can get is "Spamming" and I'm not sure that covers it fully.
As it is, the closest that we can get is "Spamming" and I'm not sure that covers it fully.
Targren
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Originally Posted by N1ghtstalker
could be but i don't know if anet can track spamming trade in local chat and if i report them for spam well i don't know if i'm right then
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They have not suspended me for it.
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Targren
The whole point of /report is to report them for breaking the rules. No trade in local is in the rules. Ergo, I doubt they will suspend you for it.
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spamming in trade happens all the time, i'm doing it too for items i need but i don't know if anet can check whether the trade spam happened in local chat
Shakti
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yes well i know that anet can track your chatlogs but i don't know if they can see in what channel you type, i'm worried about that
spamming in trade happens all the time, i'm doing it too for items i need but i don't know if anet can check whether the trade spam happened in local chat |
I remember Gaile telling us to use /report and choose spam for those annoying gold seller PMs we were all getting, and that support would see what we were reporting.
This should be fine and I know many ppl, myself included, who /report spam for trade in all chat. Once in all chat could be a mistake, more is just rude lol.
Kook~NBK~
I'm certian that they can determine which channel the message was posted in.
In many cases, it only takes one person to tell the offender to knock it off for the offender to stop. And I've seen on several occasions where when one person would speak up about it in local chat, several others would back him/her up. A little peer pressure goes a long way.
Save the /report for people who keep spamming crap after being warned. They may decide that they actually DO if a flip about "the rules" while serving a suspension.
What kills me about it is that so many of them purposely bypass the PS window while spamming in all-chat. The irony is that they say they're using all chat to reach a wider audience when in fact they'd probably be reaching MORE people (especially in LA & Kamadan) in their target audience by using the PS!
In many cases, it only takes one person to tell the offender to knock it off for the offender to stop. And I've seen on several occasions where when one person would speak up about it in local chat, several others would back him/her up. A little peer pressure goes a long way.
Save the /report for people who keep spamming crap after being warned. They may decide that they actually DO if a flip about "the rules" while serving a suspension.
What kills me about it is that so many of them purposely bypass the PS window while spamming in all-chat. The irony is that they say they're using all chat to reach a wider audience when in fact they'd probably be reaching MORE people (especially in LA & Kamadan) in their target audience by using the PS!
The Red Messenger
when i get pissed of by it, i put a message in local chat something like this:
"Reminder: trade chat is for trades. stop spamming local chat. thanks!"
and everyone that keeps spamming after i say that gets reported for spam. about half of the people stop spamming after the message tho. if more people do it maybe less people would spam overall
"Reminder: trade chat is for trades. stop spamming local chat. thanks!"
and everyone that keeps spamming after i say that gets reported for spam. about half of the people stop spamming after the message tho. if more people do it maybe less people would spam overall
N1ghtstalker
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Yes they can. From what I understand, when you /report, it takes a screenie of whats going on. If you're nervous, hit a screenshot yourself.
I remember Gaile telling us to use /report and choose spam for those annoying gold seller PMs we were all getting, and that support would see what we were reporting. This should be fine and I know many ppl, myself included, who /report spam for trade in all chat. Once in all chat could be a mistake, more is just rude lol. |
if he ignores my message i will report him
Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
Rocky Raccoon
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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BlueNovember
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I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are.
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting?
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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overlooks to all districts and direct possibility to team up and whisper another person
if you spam a local chat you will just disturb a district's chat
there is also recruitment going on in local and with spam like wtb minipet! ten times in local chat it gets pretty annoying
poasiods
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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Local chat is reserved for anyone who wants to ask a question or discuss something. It is not to be invaded by people spamming shit they want to sell.
BlackSephir
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are.
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I'm an asshole, that's what I do.
You have your trade channel, don't you?
Longasc
The local chat trade punishment weekend is over. There will be another one late 2008.
Tatile
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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I'll keep my chit-chat in Local if you keep your selling in Trade. Ok? Shake on it?
Chushingura
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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Either that, or you never entered Lion's Arch, Kaineng Center (at the time), or Kamadan.
-rightuos-
Most of the time I have local off, but when I'm to drunk to do anything else in game I go /report hunting. I find it fun to say "reported" in all chat then watch as everyone goes nuts.
Spike
You guys do realise that YOU can be banned for abuseing the report feature don't you. So i would'nt get too report happy.
Tatile
Spike, that's what the OP was worried about. S/He was worried about whether reporting trade channel-hopping would be discplined on him, rather then the spammer.
Edit: Nightstalker, I always go after the account buyer/sellers, that's why I want a category specifically for EULA Violations, spamming just doesn't cut it
Edit: Nightstalker, I always go after the account buyer/sellers, that's why I want a category specifically for EULA Violations, spamming just doesn't cut it
N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Tatile
Spike, that's what the OP was worried about. S/He was worried about whether reporting trade channel-hopping would be discplined on him, rather then the spammer.
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but i think that if alot of people were spamming local chat with trade and all would be reported would that also backfire on me for too many reporting?
i report someone from time to time and those are actually all accountbuyers or sellers
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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What's the point in a TRADING chat when you're not going to use that for TRADING, but LOCAL?
@Spike: If you're getting banned for "Abusing" the report feature when the option you wish to report someone for doesn't exist, I think ANet should hit themselves.
BlackSephir
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Because there is specifically a TRADING chat for when you are TRADING.
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Shakti
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You guys do realise that YOU can be banned for abuseing the report feature don't you. So i would'nt get too report happy.
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Abusing would be /reporting anyone and anything for "revenge" or just because you're bored lol. Different thing from /reporting idiots who can't follow very simple rules. I mean, it's color coded and everything, can't get much simpler.
Tatile
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Because there is specifically a TRADING chat for when you are TRADING.
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People should start holding conversation in Trade Chat...
Tyla
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Originally Posted by BlackSephir
What are you, stupid? Logic doesn't work in Riverside.
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Trade chat is for conversational needs and local chat is for trading needs!
Rocky Raccoon
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You guys do realise that YOU can be banned for abuseing the report feature don't you. So i would'nt get too report happy.
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If you are using the system properly you are not abusing, no matter how many people you report.
Incandecree
how lenient they are with local chat IF reported. I, myself, have been guilty of accidently hitting the local chat through the party window because I forgot to change from local to trade chat. Usually I go "oops" and then redo it in trade chat. I don't sell too often so it isn't a problem. But as an example, what if someone does it accidently once and people that are /report happy jump all over them when it was a simple mistake? I can't say that everyone that does it is a mistake, heck I can't even say that most are a mistake. With the quickness of response that I have heard about from the ban stick you do have to wonder.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by Incandecree
how lenient they are with local chat IF reported. I, myself, have been guilty of accidently hitting the local chat through the party window because I forgot to change from local to trade chat. Usually I go "oops" and then redo it in trade chat. I don't sell too often so it isn't a problem. But as an example, what if someone does it accidently once and people that are /report happy jump all over them when it was a simple mistake? I can't say that everyone that does it is a mistake, heck I can't even say that most are a mistake. With the quickness of response that I have heard about from the ban stick you do have to wonder.
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Rocky Raccoon
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Originally Posted by Incandecree
how lenient they are with local chat IF reported. I, myself, have been guilty of accidently hitting the local chat through the party window because I forgot to change from local to trade chat. Usually I go "oops" and then redo it in trade chat. I don't sell too often so it isn't a problem. But as an example, what if someone does it accidently once and people that are /report happy jump all over them when it was a simple mistake? I can't say that everyone that does it is a mistake, heck I can't even say that most are a mistake. With the quickness of response that I have heard about from the ban stick you do have to wonder.
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Richardt
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Originally Posted by Incandecree
how lenient they are with local chat IF reported. I, myself, have been guilty of accidently hitting the local chat through the party window because I forgot to change from local to trade chat. Usually I go "oops" and then redo it in trade chat. I don't sell too often so it isn't a problem. But as an example, what if someone does it accidently once and people that are /report happy jump all over them when it was a simple mistake? I can't say that everyone that does it is a mistake, heck I can't even say that most are a mistake. With the quickness of response that I have heard about from the ban stick you do have to wonder.
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N1ghtstalker
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Originally Posted by Incandecree
how lenient they are with local chat IF reported. I, myself, have been guilty of accidently hitting the local chat through the party window because I forgot to change from local to trade chat. Usually I go "oops" and then redo it in trade chat. I don't sell too often so it isn't a problem. But as an example, what if someone does it accidently once and people that are /report happy jump all over them when it was a simple mistake? I can't say that everyone that does it is a mistake, heck I can't even say that most are a mistake. With the quickness of response that I have heard about from the ban stick you do have to wonder.
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even anet will see in the chatlog you just made a small mistake and probably leave it as it is for a small mistake
but like i've seen of some guy trying to sell his claws of the broodmother in local chat and constantly spamming it well yes that guy could be suspended
Kapral
Just do what I do. Uncheck that little box to Local Chat. Done.
WinterSnowblind
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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Restricting trading messages to the trading window makes perfect sense. If you're looking to buy or sell something, you can turn on the trade chat and look through all that, but otherwise you can turn it off and not have to be bothered by the thousands of messages every second.
Personally, I don't mind if I see the odd message in the wrong window, it is pretty easy to do by accident, but if someone is spamming trade messages when there's a specific section for that kind of thing, it's just inconsiderate.
Now, if only something could be done about the Guild recruitment messages.
StormDragonZ
If someone spams 4 times in less than 30 seconds, I consider it reportable for spamming... anywhere... especially in local chat.
bryann380
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Originally Posted by Kapral
Just do what I do. Uncheck that little box to Local Chat. Done.
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Aldric
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Originally Posted by Brother Low
I would like to hear one reasonable explanation as to what the big deal of posting items for sale in local chat are. I mean - most of the dialouge is juvenile at best so why not ask if someone wants to buy someting? I have bought stuff from guys selling in open chat and often at a better price. I think the people who complain about this need to quit making such a big deal out of nothing.
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If you must have an explanation , which I don't believe you need , how about just plain old good manners ?
I will ask , in local , for spammers to use the trade channel but only after the 2nd or 3rd time. I sell myself and have occasionally used the wrong tab by mistake so I always give someone a mistake or 2.
After that I PM them and ask them and most stop. Occasionally I get a FU diatribe or those who just ignore it so them I do report.
Darkobra
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Originally Posted by Tatile
People should start holding conversation in Trade Chat...
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