Hi guys sry for my bad english but it isn t my native lauguage. I will try to explain what i think in the better way i can.
I want to talk about the recent [shadow form] PvE uptade, i think that this uptaded skill will destroy the ectos value like ursan destroyed shards price.
Well, i think all know that now farming ectos whit an A/E or better whit an A/Me is the the simplest thing that a tard player could easily do.
Yesterday some of my friends farmed about 50e in 10 hours and i saw tons of sins soloing in ToA since SF was utaded.
I think that this isn t a nice thing because ectos price will droop soon, they are easier to farm than shards!!!!!
And if ectos will drop their prices FoW armor/chaos Gloves and most of stuff will become a load of rubbish.
Making the farm too easy isn t a nice thing and uw farming (atm the best farming place) will be an usless activity.
Then i think that SF need a new nerf as soon as possible or all gw economy will crash. Last skills balance was orrible and will destroy the gw economy.
What do u think about?
Ps: sry again for my bad english i hope all have understood what i want to say
SF Update will destroy GW economy
Kurenai Fire Sensei
Tyla
The economy is already dead to be honest, and they don't care about PvE.
If they are to nerf this, they would also hit Ursan, SY, TNTF, ERenewal and Soul Reaping.
If they are to nerf this, they would also hit Ursan, SY, TNTF, ERenewal and Soul Reaping.
joshuarodger
farm them while they're still 4.5k and sell them now. time to put all that money in rubies and sapphires.
Kurenai Fire Sensei
y economy is already dead but SF uptade will COMPLETELY destroy the gw economy. farming 50e/day i could buy a fow in 2 days, chaos gloves in 1,5 days, eternal in 4-5 days and high-end minis in a few weeks. SF must have a nerf
Tyla
Well I'm amazed at 50 ectos a day, but my point stands.
All I can say is: As soon as you get them, sell them. They aren't falling at a considerably high speed at the moment which would give you time to gain 1000k very fast.
All I can say is: As soon as you get them, sell them. They aren't falling at a considerably high speed at the moment which would give you time to gain 1000k very fast.
I Is Special
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
I think that this isn t a nice thing because ectos price will droop soon, they are easier to farm than shards!!!!!
And if ectos will drop their prices FoW armor/chaos Gloves and most of stuff will become a load of rubbish. |
And ectos will not drop in price anymore, i'm pretty sure it will remain at the price it is at. I have no proof to back this up, Its just what i think will be the case >.>
Dr Strangelove
Farming UW has always been fairly easy, it's just brain-meltingly boring. As long as people like me prefer to do fun things instead, ectos will have value.
I can't imagine how dull you'd have to be to farm 50 ectos every day.
I can't imagine how dull you'd have to be to farm 50 ectos every day.
Shawn The Divine
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farming 50e/day i could buy a fow in 2 days, chaos gloves in 1,5 days, eternal in 4-5 days and high-end minis in a few weeks.
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Why is that bad?
Kapral
I'm not amazed at 50e a day at all. A couple guild members were farming the other day and were getting 5-10 per run at 45 mins a run tops (closer to 30 mins a run).. well do the math.
I would jump on this if I wasn't stuck with a connection that doesn't want to cooperate with me. Oh well, hopefully Guild Wars economy isn't completely trashed by the time I come back fully (in September
). Although, GAMM will be easier then so... trash on :-p.
Is it just me, or is the economy always trashed in every game in the players eyes?
I would jump on this if I wasn't stuck with a connection that doesn't want to cooperate with me. Oh well, hopefully Guild Wars economy isn't completely trashed by the time I come back fully (in September
). Although, GAMM will be easier then so... trash on :-p.Is it just me, or is the economy always trashed in every game in the players eyes?
knoll
Ecto has stayed at 5.5k for what a week + now? I don't think it will ruin the economy.
Tyla
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Originally Posted by I Is Special
And ectos will not drop in price anymore, i'm pretty sure it will remain at the price it is at. I have no proof to back this up, Its just what i think will be the case >.>
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jon0592
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
y economy is already dead but SF uptade will COMPLETELY destroy the gw economy. farming 50e/day i could buy a fow in 2 days, chaos gloves in 1,5 days, eternal in 4-5 days and high-end minis in a few weeks. SF must have a nerf
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Woop Shotty
50 ectos per day? Damn! Are you hooked up to an IV and colostamy bag?
Kurenai Fire Sensei
I m sure prices will drop really soon... And the bad thing is that high-end armors/wepons could be owned in a really easy way..
BTW *54 ectos farmed in a day
BTW *54 ectos farmed in a day
Narcissia
ecto is stock piled and used as currency, therefore will probably maintain its value of between 4.7-5k
its always been easily farmed
its always been easily farmed
matsif
umm...the GW economy is already dead. it died when ectos hit 21/100k, I remember when it was like 10/100k. also when armbraces went to 100k+15-20e, weren't they at like 100k+100e or more before? also when shards went to less than 2k, I remember them being at around 7-8k for 1...lets see what else we can add in to show economic death, hmm...
this sf update just allows the average player to get more money. freaks like those you spoke of getting 50e in 1 day need whats called a life.
this sf update just allows the average player to get more money. freaks like those you spoke of getting 50e in 1 day need whats called a life.
Kurenai Fire Sensei
y but it was too hard/boring for 80% gw players now all random tards can easily get tons of ectos in a few hours. In a month price will be halfed, like shards price was halfed when Uway FoW clears became commons.
Kusandaa
IMHO, ecto value won't drop. It's been stable for ages at 4.5k-5k because it's constantly in demand. A LOT of people buy ectos to trade and as long as they'll do, IMHO, will remain the same price.
And yes, your average player can now get more money. What's wrong with that? Afraid leet items will go down in price? >_>;;;
And yes, your average player can now get more money. What's wrong with that? Afraid leet items will go down in price? >_>;;;
Zena Starlight
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
y but it was too hard/boring for 80% gw players now all random tards can easily get tons of ectos in a few hours. In a month price will be halfed, like shards price was halfed when Uway FoW clears became commons.
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Aeon221
You know, I can't think of a single reason why I'm supposed to be sad that prices are going down. Is this bizzaro world where I should be excited to pay more for the privilege of having the same amount of stuff?
As consumers, we all benefit when the prices go down. Only the crazy lolbars lose out because of the increased competition.
Even the people using ectos as a store of value aren't going to be hurt, as they can just switch their cash into lockpicks, the T-Bill of GW. Sure, they might take a hit on the transition, but it isn't like it'll really hurt em. I can hear their cries even now, from teh future: "Oh noes, I lost 1-3% of my meeeelions of GW dollars, teh horrors! It are Democralypse Now!"
Now if only Anet would add a rubies and sapphires dungeon and let the lolbars get to work on those prices too. Cheaper everything!
As consumers, we all benefit when the prices go down. Only the crazy lolbars lose out because of the increased competition.
Even the people using ectos as a store of value aren't going to be hurt, as they can just switch their cash into lockpicks, the T-Bill of GW. Sure, they might take a hit on the transition, but it isn't like it'll really hurt em. I can hear their cries even now, from teh future: "Oh noes, I lost 1-3% of my meeeelions of GW dollars, teh horrors! It are Democralypse Now!"
Now if only Anet would add a rubies and sapphires dungeon and let the lolbars get to work on those prices too. Cheaper everything!
{IceFire}
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Enko
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
y economy is already dead but SF uptade will COMPLETELY destroy the gw economy. farming 50e/day i could buy a fow in 2 days, chaos gloves in 1,5 days, eternal in 4-5 days and high-end minis in a few weeks. SF must have a nerf
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Kurenai Fire Sensei
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Originally Posted by Zena Starlight
QQ Moar? So now the hard earn cash you spent to buy obsidian armor/chaos gloves will be worthless since others people can get it?
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Songbringer
Ecto price is already dead you just didn't play or don't remember when they were 16k at trader. There is next to nothing that can fix this economy as there are to many players that are poor and QQ about the prices and other things in pve. Which is the whole reason why these updates have come to pass. They are making pve noob friendly to stop the crappy players from crying instead of making them actually get some skill.
Riceboi
If anerf nerfs all the skills people are complaining about I predict about 50% of the gw population will rage quit.
FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE."
Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check.
If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO.
/endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?)
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE."
Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check.
If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO.
/endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?)
Riceboi
I need this buffed sf because it makes me feel epic, I don't feel like rage quitting again so anet don't nerf it please. =)
Riceboi
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE." Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check. If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO. /endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?) |
natural_Causes
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE." Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check. If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO. /endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?) |
You need a cookie
Dylananimus
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Originally Posted by Kusandaa
IMHO, ecto value won't drop. It's been stable for ages at 4.5k-5k because it's constantly in demand. A LOT of people buy ectos to trade and as long as they'll do, IMHO, will remain the same price.
And yes, your average player can now get more money. What's wrong with that? Afraid leet items will go down in price? >_>;;; |
Ecto has been at that stable price for months, fluctuating only slightly. So what are you getting your panties in a twist for people? So what if more people can now farm in easier ways than before (given the fact the perma SF is just easier now)? You'll find after the initial rush those people will eventually get bored and go back to playing normally, leaving the uber-farmers to carry on going (like they always have).
Nothing really changes
Gwmaster
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE." Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check. If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO. /endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?) |
Esan
I don't expect SF will be nerfed, but I expect changes to be made to the Mindblade Spectre drop tables. It would only be fair to make them drop ectos at the same rate as Terrorweb Dryders and Smite Crawlers, as the difficulty of farming them are about the same. They can even say in the update notes:
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The Meth
Guild Wars had an economy?
blooQkazoo
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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove
PERMA-SHADOW WAS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE UPDATE. STOP WHINING ABOUT UW BEING TOO EASY TO FARM. IT WAS THIS EASY BEFORE. GO AWAY.
P.S. IT'S SPELLED "UPDATE." Seriously. Shut up. It's not ruining the economy whatsoever. UW was just as easy to farm, it just took 1/4 of a second more attention to make sure you were casting the echoed copy at the right time whereas now you don't have to check. If you didn't have the slightest frakking clue before, you don't have any right to say anything now. GET OVER IT AND GTFO. /endrant (can you tell I'm tired of hearing this crap when the update really did nothing above what could already be done?) |
**QQ. i spended 10 hour of mi life farmin and evry1 gets still more ectos than i does. i want SF nerff cos i want to fell 1337 with my stacs of ectos becuase stacks of ecto is my e-peen.**
Go outside.
It's pretty ironic how you're able to call other players "tards" with comments like:
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
ok next uptade will be added an npc that gives away for free stacks of ectos so all can get fow/chaos etrnals minis ecc. in a few mins. Make gw easier make it boring
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Originally Posted by Kurenai Fire Sensei
y but it was too hard/boring for 80% gw players now all random tards can easily get tons of ectos in a few hours. In a month price will be halfed, like shards price was halfed when Uway FoW clears became commons.
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Chthon
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Originally Posted by Esan
I don't expect SF will be nerfed, but I expect changes to be made to the Mindblade Spectre drop tables. It would only be fair to make them drop ectos at the same rate as Terrorweb Dryders and Smite Crawlers, as the difficulty of farming them are about the same. They can even say in the update notes:
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Yichi
Honestly, who cares anymore... Theres so much shit wrong with this game atm that its hard to find anything going right.
Shiro's Prophet
IMO When gwen came out with ursan, the economy died.
I MP I
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Honestly, who cares anymore... Theres so much shit wrong with this game atm that its hard to find anything going right.
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If a nerf does happen, I'll read all the qqing about it on the forums and have a good laugh.
Trader of Secrets
For people who are amazed at the amount of ectos they get in a short amount of time, all true. Very true that its ezy to use; dusted off my mule sin, checked out the build, one try and completed with 6 ecto in 30 min. Simple.
I dont really see a big ecto crash coming. Before SF's duration was buffed there was also the OF Ele build, which can also solo a few more parts than the sin. Ive not seen the ecto prices drop when that build was release so Im not expecting a large drop in ecto prices. However that leaves 2 professions that can do this solo, so more people getting ecto. The shard prices dropped to nothing only because there were so many builds that can farm for them (ursan clearing, 600/smite team, SF ele, etc).
Afraid of your ecto losing value?
I do not think ecto will ever regain back its high value, so its a good decision to just convert them whether or not there will be a crash. Convert to cold plat or something of sustainable value like fireworks or sweets. Im thinking about investing in UW scrolls. You look at it favor drops about 300-200 a day, so theres about 30-40 days of favor left (considering that there are no favor spikes from events). Think about the UW scrolls though, used to about 1.8k each at trader.
I dont really see a big ecto crash coming. Before SF's duration was buffed there was also the OF Ele build, which can also solo a few more parts than the sin. Ive not seen the ecto prices drop when that build was release so Im not expecting a large drop in ecto prices. However that leaves 2 professions that can do this solo, so more people getting ecto. The shard prices dropped to nothing only because there were so many builds that can farm for them (ursan clearing, 600/smite team, SF ele, etc).
Afraid of your ecto losing value?
I do not think ecto will ever regain back its high value, so its a good decision to just convert them whether or not there will be a crash. Convert to cold plat or something of sustainable value like fireworks or sweets. Im thinking about investing in UW scrolls. You look at it favor drops about 300-200 a day, so theres about 30-40 days of favor left (considering that there are no favor spikes from events). Think about the UW scrolls though, used to about 1.8k each at trader.
Lyonette
can someone link me the build pls? ^.^
ps.- i always get a chuckle out of these chicken little posts
ps.- i always get a chuckle out of these chicken little posts