"in game" moderator

sorry if something like this has been suggested before, but i couldn't find it in a search.


ok, what i'm suggesting is an official person (or persons) maybe an employee of anet, whose job is to moderate "in game", in real time. there could be an added feature of reporting where you have the option "summon/call game moderator (GM)" when there is a SERIOUS offense taking place. we all know there's alot of random arguments and verbal garbage that goes on in towns and i am NOT saying this is what i'm suggesting this feature for. this would be for extreme circumstances where immediate action would be necessary and appreciated by other players.

i'm basing this suggestion from a situation i ran into at shing jea (yeah, shing jea, what else do you expect lol) a person was running around town shouting the most extreme, vile, graphic language you can think of, verbally abusing other players, the list goes on. no this guy wasn't just saying "bad words" i'm not offended by most things but this guy was seriously disturbed. i mean going into detail about molesting babies is a little much for me. some of you might say, just ignore it, turn off your local channel, etc. i know that guy will get his punishment when anet receives all the reports and has a chance to review the chat logs but situations like that would benefit from *immediate* action, in my opinion at least.

i think the threat of immediate action and the idea that *someone is watching you* might make SOME of these people think twice before going out of their way to disturb the gameplay of others.

to *hopefully* cutback on abuse of this feature, a message could be added warning the reporter of the consequences. such as, type /report, select "summon GM", then a message pops up stating something like...

"you are about to summon a GM to evaluate a possible illegal action. if this report is found to be unsubstantiated, you (the reporter) could be punished for abuse of this feature. are you sure you wish to proceed?"


something fun that could be done instead of summoning the GM to your location, would be where the reporter and the person being reported would both be summoned to an isolated location.....like GM island or "the isle of judgment" lol where both persons could be questioned, if necessary, and the GM would review the chat logs or whatever to confirm the illegal activity. the reason for the reporter being sent to the island would be to reduce the risk of abuse of the feature, being that the reporter must stand behind what they have just reported and take time out of their gameplay to defend it. of course with that the person could just log out, but if they do they could be placed right back at the island when they log back in, or face some sort of punishment. but the original reported action would still be evaluated if that happened and the GM was unable to resolve it. the GM would just forward it as "unresolved" or something and then it would be treated like a regular "report".


i based this idea off the GMs in the original Neverwinter Nights (haven't played in years so i dunno if they still use them). way back when i used to play, my friends and i were friends with a GM of a particular server. occasionally he would bring us to random locations or pop up where we were just to mess with us, lol we were friends so it was cool, but this is also why i say a GW moderator would definitely need to be an official, unbiased person preferably an ANET employee.


i doubt this is a feature that will ever happen, but i still like the idea.

One person isn't probably won't make much difference, I doubt it'd be worth it.

It's not a bad idea, but it'd be heavily abused. That, and I doubt ArenaNet would fund something like this.

only if I get moderator powers. Rawr.

/notsigned, tis a waste of that persons time, could you imagine the amount of 'serious' incidents he would be getting requested to on a daily basis, plus a person could just run into a town scream something YOU dont like, and then leave before the GM gets there, then what?

Wow has GMs, and they work very well. However Blizzard is rich and can afford to pay hordes of GMs to moderate they're game. GMs could also be useful for providing direct ingame support (not hints but help) fixing bugs on the fly (such as enemies not spawning or doors not working) or just sitting in town gathering data on community views.

In game moderators are a valuable asset to any game, however they are expensive and need to be en mass to have a real effect.

i think everyone would agree that graphic details related to molesting babies is offensive, not just some dork running around saying "i molest babies". it's not just something "I" don't like......at least i hope not. but yes, even though i like the idea i still think it's something that would be abused.


yeah the bugs issue would be helpful also. i can remember having to go through the vizunah square mission several times on one toon because of that darn other group not protecting mhenlo only to have togo get stuck behind a chest right at the end. >_<

SWG had the option to ask a GM to come when you have a mayor problem, you could even kill him hahaha, but... guild wars tend to have a lot of crap and garbage talking going on... you will need lik 5 % of the total population as GM's to have a impact. And remember this game is a pay for content game, not a fee game.

If you want a GM, play a pay-to-play MMO.

GW doesn't have the money, resources or general willingness to waste on in-game mods.

/report and anet support ftw, no need for GM's. Support answers your questions within the hour too. Thumbs up!

/not signed.

it will create lots of chaos.

/notsigned , but if Anet would have the money i'd say try out the WoW way with being able to ask a GM a question and help with stuff... eg. bugs without having to restart FoW -.- or UW :/ or DoA O.O

/not signed Although, I too have met people who feel the need to be less than human in the game, I think the correct thing is to use the report system that is already in effect. One 24 hour officer would be swamped with stupid requests and not have time for the real ones. Then the cost would be amazing as you would actually need a minimum of 3 people on 8 hour shifts, so you would actually need to create 3 full time pay checks and 3 more for the weekend part time. And since there is no income built into the game to support something like this and I do not want to pay a MONTHLY FEE. We should just use the system in existance. Because it is a bit of hastle and hard to do, only the really determined are going to use it hopefully for the really extreme bad behavior.

QFT

It could work if Anet had the funds, but we'd have to pay monthly :/

They barely have enough money to fund servers

aww........i love you guild wars


gw appreciation FTW! XD

There is absolutley no behavior in Guild Wars that requires action from a GM instantaneously. All problems can be solved through the report system, or in the case of some jerk off making inappropriate comments in chat, a screen shot emailed to ANet.

24 hour GM's get paychecks, and like the fire department, get paid not to put out fires every day, but to deal with false alarms too. Why waste ANets money?

/signed for originality and how handy this could be.

/notsigned for how abused it will get, how little it will be used, how chaotic things will get, the cost of it, and the very high chance that such a thing won't happen.

overall, /notsigned *sorry*

/signed partially. I see how this could get abused, but it would be good to see perhaps some volunteer GM's rather than paid ones.

And who will guarantee they will not abuse their GM powers?
This is not some free forum site we are talking about, we are talking about something people have paid money for and in no form should we have the same crap of moderation that volunteer GM's practise, GWGuru is a prime example of that.

thus I stated that I could see how it could be abused. Badly phrased sentence on my part. It's a good idea if it could be implemented without abuse. Puzzle Pirates manages to do it abuse free, so it is possible...if the logistics were thought out it would be a good idea, but I for one can't be bothered doing that legwork.

There will be idiots that will report for stupid reasons.

Don't say there won't there always will be.

/notsigned, what would they do? Report bots? i doubt A-net would pay people to do that when plenty or players do it free ^^

And we have a perfectly good ignore list for the spammers so whats the point of having somone for people to go whinning to?

Hell, I'll gladly be an in-game mod for free! So many people spam in local chat too much (especially wtb/wts stuff) and I'd love to be able to stop them from doing it. And before you even ask, no I won't abuse the mod power. If I see this in local chat...

"WTS Golem tonic 100k!"
"WTS Golem tonic 100k!"
"WTS Golem tonic 100k!"

...I will mention that it needs to be in the trade channel. If it continues in local anyway, /ban (length of time varies). That's just one example. And any bots I see trying to buy accounts get perma banned on the spot.

if only there were more people on GW that were helpful and would answer other people's questions without flaming them and stuff. i think most people who don't care for such nonsense have their local channels turned off nowadays. whenever i see someone, especially someone obviously new to the game, asking a perfectly legitimate question, i try to answer them. but they also get bombarded with all the "u stupid noob" comments.

i'd much rather listen to noobs than "some" vets of the game who are total a-holes and think that just because you have a certain title or have played "a game" for x amount of hours, that they are better than everyone else on earth. lol

They don't necessarily have to be paid. Runesape has voluntary unpaid player moderators that are hand picked by Jagex (the developers) and are just for the purpose the OP brought up.

They're ordinary players that have played for a long time and have demonstrated through forums and in-game actions a positive attitude and willingness to help others and properly report violations.

Properly implemented, a good idea for GW and /signed. But I agree also that improperly implemented and it could be a problem.

But everyone has their own GM, just turn your filters on, or turn the chat off. I usually have local chat off in any PvE area.

And there's no logical way for this to work. It's not worth paying someone to do, and if there was a volunteer, there's no way they wouldn't abuse it, and even if someone was paid, they'd still abuse it.

If humans were perfect, this suggestion would work, but seeing as we aren't, it won't.

In which they mass recruited anyone for a year, had a lot of cases of mods abusing power who muted anyone over the simplest of things, gave the mods a bad name as a whole, then asked for personal information which chased off a lot of even the veteran mods, and so on and so forth...

I'm not saying it's a perfect system and player moderators would/should still be held accountable for their actions by the developers. But at times some of the crap that goes on in towns and outposts is pretty extreme. Having an occasional moderator around might help curtail some of the riff raff and spare those of us who are just trying to enjoy ourselves. Without having to turn off all the chat channels and isolate ourselves further from the gameworld or fill up our ignore list.

Oh, I forgot the most obvious thing. Most of the game is in instances where people play. A lot can happen there that a mod can't have control over, or a mod can be in the middle of a game themselves.

Would you like Brown-noses like some of the Mod's on GWGuru to moderate your game play. There is no way in hell that volunteer Mod's do a good job.
They don't have anyone to answer to, if they do a mistake that costs a player money (losing an account) who are they responsible to? This is not a school yard we are talking about. Unless they are employed by A-Net/NC-Soft they are only vigilanteis or giving players cause for law suits.
Sooner or later 1 or more will abuse the power (Murphy's law) and that's a can of worms we don't need. It would be better if players ignore idiots, not encourage them.

And when this post gets edited or deleted by a mod my point is proven.

I want player moderators like in Runescape. I've always wanted a silver crown over my head.

My God, the snarky-whiner meter around here is just off the scale. Did you even read my post? The key phrase being "properly implemented". I'm not going to bother to define that but suffice it to say mods would need to be obviously be held in check by Anet staff and not choose just anyone and not given absolute power as some people seem to think they'd have. *waits for Anet doesn't have the money/resources comments* "rolleyes"

As far as someone moderating my gameplay, I have nothing to worry about because I've read the ToS, I know I behave myself and my in-game actions prove it. If somebody is reporting you then your probably doing something borderline anyway. I seriously doubt a well chosen/screened mod is going to report you for just standing around or because they don't like the color of your armor.

Look, this isn't my crusade. I was just adding comments to the OPs thread, so take your flames elsewhere. I personally don't feel a burning need for game moderators. But if done right and held in check, it could work and I wouldn't have anything against it.

*poof*

Computer moderator will do the trick because they can be in every town/district and requires no money or manpower! They will have the ability to report and log bad language coming from players as they see in public chat etc…Just a thought!

Yes, you have read the ToS, but that's not a guarantee that the Mod has, or even follows it. You know as well as I do that it can and will be abused.

No need to look any further than "Izzy" abusing his Dev powers by letting his friends/guild buddy's do "skill balancing". (and there used to be a thread about that with "screenis" proving it, but somhow it's gone now)

Like Anet has ever done anything about bots in the past....

Yeah right, you know this isn't a mmorpg right, since they dotn have monthly fees they cant rly afford to have a bunch of useless gms.
and also why make gms when they game is dying
/notsigned, use brain before posting
This sub forum rly needs to be closed, only bs threads