Make bad elites good by creating builds around them

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

The idea of this thread is to take a rarely used or bad elite and create a working build around it. I'm talking of elites like Archer's Signet.

So, grab an unused elite from here:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_of_elite_skills

And show everyone what you can come up with

MStarfire

MStarfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

[SOS]

Rt/

I've made some decent builds around battle rage that work well in PvE and AB. I'm at work posting from my iPod right now but I'll post them when i get home.

LifesRestorer

LifesRestorer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

London, England

Mo/

k heres my attempt.

[build prof=Ranger/Necromancer][Concussion Shot][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Marksman's Wager][Rigor Mortis][Parasitic Bond][Plague Sending][Resurrection Signet][/build]
7 or so curses, then distribute marks and exp evenly or something.

put rigor on the target, cover with parasitic, spam conc shot and savage on recharge. use d-shot for res sigs. when your health gets low spam parasitic on everyone then run about for abit or something. if you get annoying conditions on you, plague send them to someone else.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

basing a build around a bad elite wont help that its a bad skill and you could have wasted your elite slot.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

There's a disconnect between what the OP is asking and what was chosen for the title. I actually like the topic implied by the title, which would be taking elite skills that are often unused, and have gone unused for ages, and changing them some so they might be used. I always wished Anet would do this. The more skill possibilities, especially in viable elites, the more builds that would be out there. There's a lot of dead skills for no particular reason.

I'm not sure you can take a bad elite and make it good simply through a build designed to work around it. The problem is you're still working around a bad elite. Best you can do is make an interesting concept, and then hopefully an argument that Anet would get a bit of sense and at least make most elites viable so we'd have more concept builds.

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

[skill]Lyssa's Aura[/skill]

5 Energy
1 Casting time
30 Recharge Time
Change to: For 10-24 seconds, whenever you use a hex spell, you gain 0-2 energy. When Lyssa's Aura ends, you gain 2-6 energy for each recharging hex spell.

MAJOR EDIT: So yes, I jumped to conclusions too quickly.
In that case:

Work THE REAL Lyssa's Aura with [skill]Extend Enchantments[/skill] or anything that allows enchantments to last longer.

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

[wastrels collapse] [diversion] [power drain] [shatter enchantment] [power spike] [ether feast] [inspired enchantment][resurrection signet]

my attempt.........

Luminarus

Luminarus

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2007

Sydney, Australia

Haze of Light [pure]

R/

I made a gimmick with wastrels collapse once, it was something like this:

[Wastrels Collapse][Iron Palm][Falling Spider][Horns of the Ox][Stonesoul Strike][Holy Strike][Deaths Charge][Resurrection Signet] Basically knock lock them for 6 seconds + decent damage.

Never tried it, but could be fun.

EDIT: This was before eotn, just though about it and swap [Falling Spider] for [Golden Fang Strike] and [Deaths Charge] or [Resurrection Signet] for [Strength of Honor]

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

I thank LifesRestorer, RavagerOfDreams and Luminarus for being the people who read the OP. I'll update the OP to make it absolutely clear what this thread's about, so that we don't take another 17 replies before someone realizes what's going on.

EDIT: Actually, could a mod change the title to something like "Make bad elite good by creating builds around them"?

Styxgyan

Styxgyan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Spain, UTC/GMT+1/+2

Warrior's Endurance and Battle Rage aren't bad elites, I think. You can try these ones:

[build name="Warrior's Endurance" prof=W/Mo axe=12 str=12][warrior's endurance][wild blow][counterattack][furious axe][power attack][you move like a dwarf!][summon ruby djinn][resurrect][/build]
Using a zealous axe.

[build name="Battle Rage" prof=W/Mo axe=12 str=12][summon ruby djinn][enraging charge][battle rage][dismember][penetrating blow][executioner's strike][lion's comfort][resurrect][/build]
Using a 20/20 axe will be fine.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

[[email protected]][[email protected]][Auspicious [email protected]][Conjure [email protected]][Ether [email protected]][Ether [email protected]][Resurrection Signet][]

WAMMO ASSASSINATOR!!!ONE!1!

IamI

IamI

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

[build prof=Ritualist/Mesmer][Cruel was [email protected]][Ancestor's [email protected]][Clamor of [email protected]][[email protected]][[email protected]][Weapon of [email protected]][Wielder's [email protected]][Resurrection Signet][/build]

Clamor of Souls is highly inferior to Cruel Was Daoshen, so.. yes. Splinter Weapon grants more aoe and a buff for physical teammates if you want it.

I tried basing a build around post-nerf Shroud of Silence, but it's just bad.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

[build prof=Ranger/Mesmer][skill]Tease[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]inspired enchantment[/skill][skill]dodge[/skill][skill]Antidote signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][/build]

Another irritating Ranger build. Strip Holy Veil with Inspired Enchantment and use Dodge to run to your target and hit Tease (for just 2-3 energy!). Maintain a defensive stance so they can't wand it off.

JONO51

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

P/

This could be funny, more of a team build around the unused [[unyielding aura]
6x Nec with [Icy Veins][Death Nova][Blood Ritual][Dark Prison][Augury of death]
1x Monk with [Unyielding Aura][Release Enchantments][Dwayna's Sorrow][Pestilence]
1x Monk with [Unyielding Aura][Release Enchantments][Edge of Extinction]

Necro's sac, monks res with [[unyielding aura], lay down spirits, necro's select target, apply [[death nova] to themselves and [[icy veins] to enemies teleport in to a target, monks hit [[release enchantments] necro's blow up and stuff dies lol.

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by mazza558
I thank LifesRestorer, RavagerOfDreams and Luminarus for being the people who read the OP. I'll update the OP to make it absolutely clear what this thread's about, so that we don't take another 17 replies before someone realizes what's going on.

EDIT: Actually, could a mod change the title to something like "Make bad elite good by creating builds around them"?
You can't make a bad elite good by basing a build around it. That just brings more proof forward to the elite being bad.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

[skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Jagged Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the OX[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

10 wild
10 expertise
11 dagger

Dagger ranger!

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Lol I remember running this in AB for fun
You must use zealous daggers
12 dagger
13 Str

W/A
Warriors endurance
leaping mantis/golden phoenix strike
Jungle/Wild strike
trampling ox/ horns of the ox
Falling spider/falling lotus
Twisted fangs
Lions comfort

You could also add in bulls strike so you could go straight into Falling spider>twisted fangs

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

This is just a thread for scrubs to make bad elite skills look even worse.

mazza558

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

Why's this in Campfire now? What about PvP builds with bad elites?

ShadowsRequiem

ShadowsRequiem

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Inde is Smoking [Hawt] *ToA*

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiao Yang
This is just a thread for scrubs to make bad elite skills look even worse.
it seems like its turning into scrubs QQing ruining peoples fun.

Don't fall off your high horse.