HOD sword, worth it???

jet_striker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada

Protectors

W/Mo

anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????

G.R.R Martin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

Wow...hindsight really is 20/20

I wish that I had known about all of this (especially the eventual selling price) when I killed off my first W/Mo character so that I could play on my own account. I certainly would not have sold mine to a merchant. All i can recall about the sword is that I was very impressed to finally be able to find a sword that added energy to (what I thought at the time) a seriously biased weapon selection against the whole 'sword wielder warrior' specialty.

Highlord Christophe

Highlord Christophe

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

US

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet_striker
anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????
Location: Pockmark Flats
Collector: Nicanor Gannel
3 Enchanted Lodestones
Fiery Flame Spitter (Fire Dmg: 5-12 req. 3 Axe Mastery)
Skill Recharge 10%
Armor -10 While Attacking.

animeba

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

It's actually +2 energy, not +5 energy when compared to a staff.

With HoD Sword you get +5 energy, +20% enchant mod
Foci provides +12 energy, 20/20 bonus

A collector staff is +5 energy mod, +20% mod
+10 energy, 20/20 bonus

Since +5 energy mods are only 10-30k, the question becomes, is the +2 energy really worth the 370k+?

axe

axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Pwn Appetit [NJoy]

W/

Anyone know about this axe, I dont know where I got it and nobody can tell me any info about it (somebody HAS to know how to get this thing) 28 energy in platemail with no energy offhand.

krammit

krammit

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Do the Mike Tyson Maneuver [Bite]

Quote:
Originally Posted by moonos
obviously you dont know much about monks.. the sword is good not just because of the 5 energy, but also what you can add to it.. can you do that with wands? NO. 20 enchant mod on the sword is just incredibly awesome, and the furious mod on it as well, gives you more adrenaline for bonettis defense (4 farming monks). So this sword is mainly for farmers, and 20 enchant may not seem alot to some of you.. but trust me, when it comes down to it.. its worth it.
my suggestion to you all, get it now b4 it goes up more.. and it will.
Obviously you don't. Why not use a regular sword or a Firey flame on a farmer?

jet_striker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada

Protectors

W/Mo

Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jet_striker
Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol
Walk from Serenity Temple straight down past the Stormkin. Continue along the path straight until you see the collector. If that's not good enough, I might post a map later.

axe

axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Pwn Appetit [NJoy]

W/

The collector also only is in the zone if your country has favor, its wierd, but true.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Axe is lying to the extreme. The collector was very much around on the American server today when I got a few axes; Europe had favor at the time. Sadly, I bet Anet will remove this collector in the near future.

cagan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/Mo

He sometimes .. just isn't there, no idea why *shrug*, maybe some wandering creature kills him, but sometimes he just isn't there.

axe

axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Pwn Appetit [NJoy]

W/

Well I have visited the zone several times, he was only there when we had favor, Maybe you zoned and lost favor after you zoned. But I am telling you from my experience he is there only when you have favor.

If you are having trouble finding that collector, try again when you have favor. Seriously Im not lying, I doubt it was just coincidence the many occasions I have visited this collector. If I am mistaken, I am sorry, but Im just trying to be helpful.

cagan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/Mo

There have been several times i've tried to visit him, while having favor from the start of the trip to the end, and he's not there, so favor can't be the only factor in his being there or not.

Mrs Ne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

London, England

Mo/

I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(

xcutioner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plano/Texas/USA

NN - No Names

R/Me

Consider past history...
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple...

PROTECTIVE BOND!!

Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop.

Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword.

These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.

My 2 cents.

mattjones527

mattjones527

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Ne
I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(
^ LOL, ya I originally had 3 at the time of the nerf, I was tempted to sell them off for quick cash thinking I could always buy one later for 100k at most. However I knew that statisticlly they HoD sword had an advantage, so I customized the one for my monk to prevent me from selling it. Today I only have 1 left....the customized one. So the moral is customizing saved my monk his HoD sword, and i'm happy to have atleast one HoD sword.

As for anyone who didnt get one before the nerf, I dont think the extra energy makes that much of a difference. I sometimes think using the sword may actually put me at a disadvantage, for example most people will be using green wands with 10/10 or 20/20 on them. So if anyone is seriously thinking about buying an HoD sword I would take the skill recharge/cast into consideration.

mishop

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
If you want a +5 energy thing may I suggest the +5 energy wand that still exists and is right outside of Nolina.
I can't believe I missed this all these months - thanks - I'm gonna look that up right now and hope its +5 always or +5 > 50.

sun is in us

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

Actually I use it on my Mes all the time.....beside its obvious advantages...

I really appreciate that when I attack (this is mainly in pvp), no matter what keyboard key I hit, it does not give away my position with a wand cast.....just helps with that self control.

I wouldn't part with it for 900k.

But then again, I use things for their use, not as trade items..... money has no meaning in this particular game for me.

Reverend Jekyll

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Army of None (AON)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by xcutioner
These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.

My 2 cents.
Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner.

Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending.

Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reverend Jekyll
Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner.

Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending.

Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary.
IMHO, a good enchant mod (which you can get on any weapon) is more important than the extra energy of the Nolani wand once you've figured out how to properly solo an area. It just makes farming sooo much faster and efficient.

When you're learning to solo a new spot, however, I think the HOD sword, which can combine both an enchant mod and extra energy, can give you the extra cushion needed to learn to solo an area. And that can be very helpful when you're learning.

It's also nice to have the option down the road of using the HOD sword in a new build. You never know what new combinations will be thought of next.

geminisaga

geminisaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/N

what level is the colector? is creature killing npc collector too? hmmm intresting, probably gonna test it later lure some mob close to it , because that collector not always there , not even when u have favor or not , it just someties hes not there and u need to rezone thats all .

cagan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/Mo

I've tried luring some storm kin and rockshots to him ... and they seem unphased, so i can't him being killed being a factor.
Dunno.

Fatty Fatty Boomballati

Fatty Fatty Boomballati

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Colorado

True Foundation

Mo/Me

HoD sword is definatley not worth it now...

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Flamespitter > Hod Sword

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

the hod sword is awesome for droks runs.. I never used it for soloing uw- I've always used the flame spitter with 20% enchants 10% furious even way back before the nerfs.. my flame spitter maybe the only one in game with 15% to recharge =] the one at the collector is nerfed nowdays but still better than the +5 from the hod- you don't need that to solo uw

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Flame Spitter > HOD Sword on a 55HP build.

The HOD Sword gives you a +5 Energy as a maximum, and the whole idea of all the 55HP builds is to keep your Energy high, not to have a high maximum Energy pool or anything. In other words the HOD Sword doesn't give you any benifits besides during running, when you need to cast Prot Spirit over and over again, which eventually makes you run out of Energy without getting hit, which makes you stop every once in a while, just to get hit. The Flame Spitter, on the other hand, gives you a nice damage boost. A 50% lesser skill recharge on a SOJ or SS gives you twice as much damage, and that all, for much less gold. The HOD Sword is at the 300-350K price range atm, and with the ecto price at 6-7K, that's quite alot.

Le Grinder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/Me

My HoD sword is like, really special - it has an extra 20% damage modifier! All the time!



oops

(had it before the nerf, for my warrior)

Maximus84

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sandviken/Sweden

W/Mo

anyone got a scrennshot of a Flame Spitter and a HOD Sword ??

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wait isn't HoD a collectors item? Did they get rid of it?.. Hehe.. I have a stockpile in my storage. Hmm guess I'll start selling for 100k.

Ju_Smurph

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

err... they sell for alot more than 100k

Look in the auctions.


What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus84
anyone got a scrennshot of a Flame Spitter and a HOD Sword ??
some screens..


Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
err... they sell for alot more than 100k

Look in the auctions.


What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon
thing that makes them nice is the mods you can apply.. no upgrades for a wand- you can see in the picture.. for running the +30 hitpoints with +5 energy and can still equip a shield

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph

What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon
Lots of wands give energy, the difference is that wands can't be modded, while the sword can. That is the reason that it is so expensive.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

If anyone has a 15% Fiery Flame Spitter, please contact me, I'm paying alot!

And as Cherno said, it's about the mod you can add (mostly enchantment, health or armor).

Ghost Recon

Ghost Recon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xcutioner
Consider past history...
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple...

PROTECTIVE BOND!!

Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop.

Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword.
Even then it wasn't needed i just used some wand (no energy bonus) and some armour from ascalon, and could solo UW fine.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Those mod are hard to come by as I don't think in any time farming I have come across one that gave me more enrgy.I have smiting rod that gives me +22 enrgy with a damage at 11 to 22.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
err... they sell for alot more than 100k

Look in the auctions.


What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon
Who is that in your avatar?

Ju_Smurph

Ju_Smurph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

In a house

[TaB]

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem
thing that makes them nice is the mods you can apply.. no upgrades for a wand- you can see in the picture.. for running the +30 hitpoints with +5 energy and can still equip a shield
I thought of that after i posted, however most (not all!!!) monk enchants are 10 secounds... wow a whole 2 secounds longer enchant.

+HP is a mh in my book. Im just amazed to see these things go for near on half a million...

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

yeah guess it's going to only go up too.. just hope there's a few guys with a few of em left to sell this year- kinda puts out new players from ever getting it

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Mustache has a 15% FFS - very nice.