HOD sword, worth it???
jet_striker
anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????
G.R.R Martin
Wow...hindsight really is 20/20
I wish that I had known about all of this (especially the eventual selling price) when I killed off my first W/Mo character so that I could play on my own account. I certainly would not have sold mine to a merchant. All i can recall about the sword is that I was very impressed to finally be able to find a sword that added energy to (what I thought at the time) a seriously biased weapon selection against the whole 'sword wielder warrior' specialty.
I wish that I had known about all of this (especially the eventual selling price) when I killed off my first W/Mo character so that I could play on my own account. I certainly would not have sold mine to a merchant. All i can recall about the sword is that I was very impressed to finally be able to find a sword that added energy to (what I thought at the time) a seriously biased weapon selection against the whole 'sword wielder warrior' specialty.
Highlord Christophe
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Originally Posted by jet_striker
anyone know what this fiery flame spitter is????
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Collector: Nicanor Gannel
3 Enchanted Lodestones
Fiery Flame Spitter (Fire Dmg: 5-12 req. 3 Axe Mastery)
Skill Recharge 10%
Armor -10 While Attacking.
animeba
It's actually +2 energy, not +5 energy when compared to a staff.
With HoD Sword you get +5 energy, +20% enchant mod
Foci provides +12 energy, 20/20 bonus
A collector staff is +5 energy mod, +20% mod
+10 energy, 20/20 bonus
Since +5 energy mods are only 10-30k, the question becomes, is the +2 energy really worth the 370k+?
With HoD Sword you get +5 energy, +20% enchant mod
Foci provides +12 energy, 20/20 bonus
A collector staff is +5 energy mod, +20% mod
+10 energy, 20/20 bonus
Since +5 energy mods are only 10-30k, the question becomes, is the +2 energy really worth the 370k+?
axe
Anyone know about this axe, I dont know where I got it and nobody can tell me any info about it (somebody HAS to know how to get this thing) 28 energy in platemail with no energy offhand.
krammit
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Originally Posted by moonos
obviously you dont know much about monks.. the sword is good not just because of the 5 energy, but also what you can add to it.. can you do that with wands? NO. 20 enchant mod on the sword is just incredibly awesome, and the furious mod on it as well, gives you more adrenaline for bonettis defense (4 farming monks). So this sword is mainly for farmers, and 20 enchant may not seem alot to some of you.. but trust me, when it comes down to it.. its worth it.
my suggestion to you all, get it now b4 it goes up more.. and it will. |
jet_striker
Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats
anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol
KamikazeChicken
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Originally Posted by jet_striker
Ok so I round around trying to find this BLASTED COLLECTOR
I am having serious problems finding him in the Flats anyone know where around the area he is,,,, lol |
axe
The collector also only is in the zone if your country has favor, its wierd, but true.
KamikazeChicken
Axe is lying to the extreme. The collector was very much around on the American server today when I got a few axes; Europe had favor at the time. Sadly, I bet Anet will remove this collector in the near future.
cagan
He sometimes .. just isn't there, no idea why *shrug*, maybe some wandering creature kills him, but sometimes he just isn't there.
axe
Well I have visited the zone several times, he was only there when we had favor, Maybe you zoned and lost favor after you zoned. But I am telling you from my experience he is there only when you have favor.
If you are having trouble finding that collector, try again when you have favor. Seriously Im not lying, I doubt it was just coincidence the many occasions I have visited this collector. If I am mistaken, I am sorry, but Im just trying to be helpful.
If you are having trouble finding that collector, try again when you have favor. Seriously Im not lying, I doubt it was just coincidence the many occasions I have visited this collector. If I am mistaken, I am sorry, but Im just trying to be helpful.
cagan
There have been several times i've tried to visit him, while having favor from the start of the trip to the end, and he's not there, so favor can't be the only factor in his being there or not.
Mrs Ne
I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(
xcutioner
Consider past history...
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple...
PROTECTIVE BOND!!
Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop.
Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword.
These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.
My 2 cents.
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple...
PROTECTIVE BOND!!
Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop.
Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword.
These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.
My 2 cents.
mattjones527
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Originally Posted by Mrs Ne
I brought the sword ages ago, for some reason even though I never used it I customised it Then today I just found out that it's worth 300k+ so I'm very annoyed :'(
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As for anyone who didnt get one before the nerf, I dont think the extra energy makes that much of a difference. I sometimes think using the sword may actually put me at a disadvantage, for example most people will be using green wands with 10/10 or 20/20 on them. So if anyone is seriously thinking about buying an HoD sword I would take the skill recharge/cast into consideration.
mishop
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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light
If you want a +5 energy thing may I suggest the +5 energy wand that still exists and is right outside of Nolina.
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sun is in us
Actually I use it on my Mes all the time.....beside its obvious advantages...
I really appreciate that when I attack (this is mainly in pvp), no matter what keyboard key I hit, it does not give away my position with a wand cast.....just helps with that self control.
I wouldn't part with it for 900k.
But then again, I use things for their use, not as trade items..... money has no meaning in this particular game for me.
I really appreciate that when I attack (this is mainly in pvp), no matter what keyboard key I hit, it does not give away my position with a wand cast.....just helps with that self control.
I wouldn't part with it for 900k.
But then again, I use things for their use, not as trade items..... money has no meaning in this particular game for me.
Reverend Jekyll
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Originally Posted by xcutioner
These days it's more of a imonk status symbol that an actual "required" utility item.
My 2 cents. |
Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending.
Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary.
DevilStick
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Originally Posted by Reverend Jekyll
Ding Ding Ding... We have a winner.
Face it, with enough things beating on you energy is not an issue. When there aren't enough things beating on you Blessed Signet more than makes up for the energy you're spending. Get an %18-%20 enchant mod for a sword or axe and you are set. The flamespitter is nice, but ultimately even that is unnecessary. |
When you're learning to solo a new spot, however, I think the HOD sword, which can combine both an enchant mod and extra energy, can give you the extra cushion needed to learn to solo an area. And that can be very helpful when you're learning.
It's also nice to have the option down the road of using the HOD sword in a new build. You never know what new combinations will be thought of next.
geminisaga
what level is the colector? is creature killing npc collector too? hmmm intresting, probably gonna test it later lure some mob close to it , because that collector not always there , not even when u have favor or not , it just someties hes not there and u need to rezone thats all .
cagan
I've tried luring some storm kin and rockshots to him ... and they seem unphased, so i can't him being killed being a factor.
Dunno.
Dunno.
Fatty Fatty Boomballati
HoD sword is definatley not worth it now...
Murder In China
Flamespitter > Hod Sword
Mustache Mayhem
the hod sword is awesome for droks runs.. I never used it for soloing uw- I've always used the flame spitter with 20% enchants 10% furious even way back before the nerfs.. my flame spitter maybe the only one in game with 15% to recharge =] the one at the collector is nerfed nowdays but still better than the +5 from the hod- you don't need that to solo uw
Maxiemonster
Flame Spitter > HOD Sword on a 55HP build.
The HOD Sword gives you a +5 Energy as a maximum, and the whole idea of all the 55HP builds is to keep your Energy high, not to have a high maximum Energy pool or anything. In other words the HOD Sword doesn't give you any benifits besides during running, when you need to cast Prot Spirit over and over again, which eventually makes you run out of Energy without getting hit, which makes you stop every once in a while, just to get hit. The Flame Spitter, on the other hand, gives you a nice damage boost. A 50% lesser skill recharge on a SOJ or SS gives you twice as much damage, and that all, for much less gold. The HOD Sword is at the 300-350K price range atm, and with the ecto price at 6-7K, that's quite alot.
The HOD Sword gives you a +5 Energy as a maximum, and the whole idea of all the 55HP builds is to keep your Energy high, not to have a high maximum Energy pool or anything. In other words the HOD Sword doesn't give you any benifits besides during running, when you need to cast Prot Spirit over and over again, which eventually makes you run out of Energy without getting hit, which makes you stop every once in a while, just to get hit. The Flame Spitter, on the other hand, gives you a nice damage boost. A 50% lesser skill recharge on a SOJ or SS gives you twice as much damage, and that all, for much less gold. The HOD Sword is at the 300-350K price range atm, and with the ecto price at 6-7K, that's quite alot.
Le Grinder
My HoD sword is like, really special - it has an extra 20% damage modifier! All the time!
oops
(had it before the nerf, for my warrior)
oops
(had it before the nerf, for my warrior)
Maximus84
anyone got a scrennshot of a Flame Spitter and a HOD Sword ??
Nevin
Wait isn't HoD a collectors item? Did they get rid of it?.. Hehe.. I have a stockpile in my storage. Hmm guess I'll start selling for 100k.
Ju_Smurph
err... they sell for alot more than 100k
Look in the auctions.
What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon
Look in the auctions.
What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon
Mustache Mayhem
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Originally Posted by Maximus84
anyone got a scrennshot of a Flame Spitter and a HOD Sword ??
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Mustache Mayhem
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Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
err... they sell for alot more than 100k
Look in the auctions. What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon |
Cherno
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Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon |
Maxiemonster
If anyone has a 15% Fiery Flame Spitter, please contact me, I'm paying alot!
And as Cherno said, it's about the mod you can add (mostly enchantment, health or armor).
And as Cherno said, it's about the mod you can add (mostly enchantment, health or armor).
Ghost Recon
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Originally Posted by xcutioner
Consider past history...
The main reason why you wanted the +5 energy is simple... PROTECTIVE BOND!! Back in the day, when you could cast protective bond at 17 protection you needed those 5 energy points to help you maintain the protective bond. As a solo monk you usually cast balts aura(25e), shield of judgement(15e), and healing breeze(10e), which totals 50 energy, so the hod sword was required in that build to help ensure that the protective bond didnt drop. Ever since that nerf, everyone uses protective spirit, which does not drain energy every time it reduces damage, hence the lessened need to carry the hod sword. |
Age
Those mod are hard to come by as I don't think in any time farming I have come across one that gave me more enrgy.I have smiting rod that gives me +22 enrgy with a damage at 11 to 22.
DevilStick
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Originally Posted by Ju_Smurph
err... they sell for alot more than 100k
Look in the auctions. What is the exact stats on the sword, because there is a collectors wand that will get you a +5energy allways wand in ascalon |
Ju_Smurph
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Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem
thing that makes them nice is the mods you can apply.. no upgrades for a wand- you can see in the picture.. for running the +30 hitpoints with +5 energy and can still equip a shield
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+HP is a mh in my book. Im just amazed to see these things go for near on half a million...
Mustache Mayhem
yeah guess it's going to only go up too.. just hope there's a few guys with a few of em left to sell this year- kinda puts out new players from ever getting it
Jetdoc
Mustache has a 15% FFS - very nice.