Possible to get shadow arts to 18?

Zarroc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/Mo

Could anyone help me out with getting the shadow arts to 18? I recently thought it possible, but then realized profession runes don't stack. I can only think of the following:

12 from regular point spending
1 from the mask bonus
3 from a superior rune:

Altogether making 16, is there something i'm missing that would get me the 2 extra points?

Dark Desicration

Dark Desicration

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2007

Southeast USA

West Kentshire Pony Club [Pony]

Me/

Consumables and blessings from shrines

scythefromunder

scythefromunder

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2008

CA

Tears Of The Ascended [ToA]

I believe you can use pumpkin pies to give a +1

Zarroc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/Mo

Oh didn't know about that, where does one get a pumpkin pie?

Joseph Leito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2007

Claw of the Dragon

R/Mo

Pumpkin cookie. >

Cookies > Pie

Buy them, or wait till Halloween.

Konig Des Todes

Konig Des Todes

Ooo, pretty flower

Join Date: Jan 2008

Citadel of the Decayed

The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]

N/

Pumpkin Cookies are from Halloween. There are also the con, blessings, and Golden Eggs from Easter. So, with everything, you can get any attribute to 20, in explorables.

Koricen

Koricen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2008

[LoA]

Grails of Might, Golden Eggs, and Candy Corn each give +1 to your attributes.

Pumpkin Cookies give morale.

farmerfez

farmerfez

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

You should know

W/

do the +1's from those stack?

RavagerOfDreams

RavagerOfDreams

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

somewhere over the rainbow....

A/

yup
12121212

Songbringer

Songbringer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2007

EastCoast

E/Me

Why do you need them. You can keep perma sf up with 16 shadow arts and as low as 13-14.

evenfall

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

With 18 shadow arts, you can keep perm sf with just deadly paradox, saving a skill slot (and frees your secondary).

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Well with those Candies & consumables thats possible yes but those consumables arent easyest to faind 1 lasts like 10-15mins and costs 200-400g/e

jonnieboi05

jonnieboi05

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mableton, Georgia

Guild Ancestors Reunited [?????????]

Quote:
Originally Posted by evenfall
With 18 shadow arts, you can keep perm sf with just deadly paradox, saving a skill slot (and frees your secondary).
at the cost of spending gold just to run this build, hence, completely ruining the idea of FARMING to make gold, NOT spend it to keep running it.


solo farming is meant to be done with the most gold profit possible with no consumables/items used in the least amount of time possible.



~LeNa~

Zarroc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2008

A/Mo

Actually I was trying to get the perma SF since I don't have the right secondary for it. at least this way I'll only be a few seconds off.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
at the cost of spending gold just to run this build, hence, completely ruining the idea of FARMING to make gold, NOT spend it to keep running it.


solo farming is meant to be done with the most gold profit possible with no consumables/items used in the least amount of time possible.



~LeNa~ If a build was ONLY possible using consumables, yet VERY profitable, would you say the same thing?

It's the same consideration if you can, say, make a farming run X time faster by switching a skill for more damage output, but requiring a con to use it. Will gold made > price paid?

Bobby2

Bobby2

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2007

Delayed in order to meet ANet's high standards

[MaSS]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moloch Vein
Will gold made > price paid and time spent gathering the consumables in the first place, which might otherwise have been spent on more farming? Fix'd.

I don't really do any farming anymore, btw - can't be arsed to.

Moloch Vein

Moloch Vein

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2007

Reactive Hexing Sucks

[Thay]

N/

^ That's also pretty obvious, yes.