Commander Title + Rank

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Commander Points + Rank

I am rank 2 on the HB Ladder, and as most of you know that at this rank it can take up to 20-40 minutes to get a single game. Due to this problem, many people are tanking there rating as they want to up there commander title, or they are just quiting HB/GW overall because of the long and boring waits for 'nothing' basically.

I don't think I should be punished for being so high in the HB ladder as I want to get my rank 7 commander title, but this is just becoming impossible unless I tank. I won't tank my rank, as I ain't got the time for one and two because I don't want too.

I think that ANET should work out a system, that allows players higher in the HB ladder to gain more than 1 commander point per win...


Example:

Top 3 - 5 Points

Top 10 - 4 Points

Top 30 - 3 Points

Top 100 - 2 Points

...and the rest 1 point.

Obviously, this is just an example!


Now think about it, this could have such a positive effect on HB. Higher ranked players would become more active again, there will be alot more people playing rated as theres a 'reason' now, no more players tanking and lastly there will be once again 'competition' for that top 10 spot in HB.

I think this is a freaking great idea... who's with me?

~ I also posted this in the HB forum as that's where all the HB players can discuss it as they probaly wouldn't look here.

~ Please no 'who carezzz, HB iz pointlezzzz, do REAL pvPee' posts please.

the savage nornbear

the savage nornbear

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2008

The Raging Cadavers [rage]

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/signed, makes sense to me...

Proff

Proff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
who carezzz, HB iz pointlezzzz, do REAL pvPee!!!!!!11111
Seriously though, I don't have the time or the will to get into the top 100 and the only time I ever even visit HB is during the double point weekends. Having said that I'm sure there's something other than 3-4 points a game keeping the highend HBers from "HBing" but if Anet thinks this is a good idea then I'm all for it being implemented.

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Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

I thought this was going to be a /Rank for the Commander title, but in this case, with all the waiting on it, I /Sign.

I Conjure Ho I

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2007

United States

Mo/A

/sign once more. this is a great idea, gives a lot more players the motivation to jump into the game and may bring in some new. good hero battlers or even the old ones. Its a win-win for ANET: the good players continue to play and and the bad ones try to get better to compete.

Should go more like this though IMO:

Top 5 = 5 points
top 20 = 4 points
top 50 = 3 points
top 100=2 points
...and the rest 1 point gg

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Thanks for the support, if anyone can pass this idea onto someone that can do something about it then I will appreciate it very much.

I just think this idea makes so much sense... Keeps higher ranked players active, and encourages newer HB players to have a reason to get better.

I agree Conjure Ho, that seems good to me... but I was just giving a rough idea.

...I think that the 'Top Player - Rank 1' should maybe get 10 points? Just to keep that competition for rank 1... but yeah, thats just my opinion.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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I think the system should be reversed.

If your opponent is in the top three, you get 5 points, etc.

People that are already high ranked shouldn't get points just because they're high ranked. That's BS. I'll start demanding 20 gamer points in DA for winning because I'm r6.

Savor Silversword

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

Sweden

Arrogant High [rank]

Mo/

/signed

This sounds fair

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
I think the system should be reversed.

If your opponent is in the top three, you get 5 points, etc.

People that are already high ranked shouldn't get points just because they're high ranked. That's BS. I'll start demanding 20 gamer points in DA for winning because I'm r6.
Shut up . LOL. Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB. End of.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

/Not signed.

Shit happens. Had 2 timer restarts in the Hall of Heroes the other day. That's a 12min timer restart each time! It happens more often each week. And last week I was in Alliance Battles and had to wait 15 minutes before the game started 3 times.

So... I'd like fame and reopen the chest when I get a timer restart? Or Faction reward for waiting more than 5min in an outpost? Not gonna happen. No reason why Hero Battles should be rewarded for doing nothing.


The problem?
Less and less people who play the game every night. In HA and GvG observer you see the same teams all over the time. There was a time where more teams were playing each evening. That's European evening/night for me.

The solution?
Improve match making on all types of PvP. Not just Hero Battles. Waiting times ARE annoying lately but I can't see Anet change it because there simply aren't enough people playing... I guess.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Shut up . LOL. Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB. End of.
No your wrong the end of HB was the entire HB system. /notsigned

Just tank your rank if your good you can just climb back up...

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.

Seriously, I can't stand people who failed at HB... so they have to bash it.

"uhh da end of hb was the entire systemzzzz' - Yeah okay... Pointless explaining to some people.

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.

Seriously, I can't stand people who failed at HB... so they have to bash it.

"uhh da end of hb was the entire systemzzzz' - Yeah okay... Pointless explaining to some people.
First off my grammar is not that horrible...

Second the HB system is bad. It honestly is. If you are good you should not have a problem climbing back up after you tank your rank.

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass
First off my grammar is not that horrible...

Second the HB system is bad. It honestly is. If you are good you should not have a problem climbing back up after you tank your rank.
Why should I waste my time tanking my rank, just so I can climb back up the ladder?

I do HB for fun and I want there to be more activity in the higher ranks.

I just waited 30 minutes for a game, it was a tanker... so wasted my time. I waited another 30 minutes, you never guess what... it was another tanker... in 1 hour of waiting, I did not get a single game of HB. GREAT.

Ate of DK

Ate of DK

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

None but Fools [nuts]

Makes me wonder what timezone you're in. You sure you aren't playing during the dead hours?

Zesbeer

Zesbeer

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2007

LLJK

i personally think that hb is the worst addition to gw and how its played right now its very meta and there is very little room for it to change because of a lack of AI.

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
I do HB for fun...
Go play non-rated?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Yeah, I understand... non-hb players don't understand the situation at all. I'd rather non-hb players stay out of this topic.
So then you post your suggestion on the HB subforum like you did, except that's not the place to make suggestions, so it comes back here...

o, wait...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB.
Perhaps you could elaborate on that?

Either way, my original suggestion still stands. Reverse the point systems so that people that beat higher ranked opponents get more points. It serves logic that people with a higher rank should have more skill, and therefore should reap more of a reward if they are beaten.

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

I never play HB, but I understand your point --> /signed

Maybe it would also be nice, to make some new emotes for these titles:

We have Hero and Zaishen, so why not for gladiator and commander?

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Hawke: You said do non-rated... this clearly shows you don't understand the situation... It can take me upto 3 hours to get a game in non-rated.

Ate of DK: No I am talking about playing at peak times, at dead hours... it will take 40-50 mins to get a match, and they'll be rank N/A... which I beat in 1 minute.

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
I am rank 2 on the HB Ladder, and as most of you know that at this rank it can take up to 20-40 minutes to get a single game.
Yes, becasue Just about everyone in GWs has been rank 2 of HB at sometime.

epeen less, troll less, HB more. Al this time you've been trolling and insulting you could have been waiting for a match.

And Hawkes Idea is golden, YOU Massacre say you want more "high level" people on and want people to stop tanking thier rank, Well if you use Hawkes idea then the higher rank you are, the better chance you have of being paired with someone who can net you more commander points if you win, thustly you won't tank out and if you win often enough against those players you will become a "high level" HBer faster and then sudenly there are more high level HBers.

Also you constantly contridict yourself in this thread as well as the one in the HB Forum. I'd post the examples for you but I don't reall y feel like it. I'll just say theat you mentioned that you don't care about Commander rank but that you want this implemented so you can get to r7 commander faster. ect ect.

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orange Milk
Yes, becasue Just about everyone in GWs has been rank 2 of HB at sometime.

epeen less, troll less, HB more. Al this time you've been trolling and insulting you could have been waiting for a match.

And Hawkes Idea is golden, YOU Massacre say you want more "high level" people on and want people to stop tanking thier rank, Well if you use Hawkes idea then the higher rank you are, the better chance you have of being paired with someone who can net you more commander points if you win, thustly you won't tank out and if you win often enough against those players you will become a "high level" HBer faster and then sudenly there are more high level HBers.

Also you constantly contridict yourself in this thread as well as the one in the HB Forum. I'd post the examples for you but I don't reall y feel like it. I'll just say theat you mentioned that you don't care about Commander rank but that you want this implemented so you can get to r7 commander faster. ect ect.
"Al this time you've been trolling and insulting you could have been waiting for a match" - You know its possible to actually post on a forum and wait for a match at the same time.

Just from that stupid comment, I could not be bothered to read the rest of your post.

Massive Impulsa

Massive Impulsa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2007

In Viking land! (Norwaii)

Beyond the Gates of Infinity [sKy]

R/Mo

Well i can agree, but imo there should almost be like u get lesser points if u beat a low rank - i suppose u can get the Commander title anyways but the Rating wouldnt move :P - Thou idk about the System but sounds kinda boring , what about tha AT's? Dont u get matches enuff there - sorry i nearly never do HB - Just 100matches:P But its sounds ok - that u get like in gvg ratings - or idk^^

Thou kinda signed on the lesser wait but yah shouldnt get more commander points thou :/

'''NB: Hmm, this comment didnt make any sense, dont read it:P'''

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
I do HB for fun
And there you go. So what's the real reason you want a rank for it?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
I think the system should be reversed.

If your opponent is in the top three, you get 5 points, etc.

People that are already high ranked shouldn't get points just because they're high ranked. That's BS. I'll start demanding 20 gamer points in DA for winning because I'm r6.
Best post on this thread.

Alex the Great

Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

America.....got a problem with that?

[Lite]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
I do HB for fun.
that may be your problem.


seriously, the only viable suggestion in my eyes was shot down by you, and that was the "Points based on other player" suggestion. If your a high rank, your opponent will be high rank aswell anyways, but if you do play a weaker enemy, who should be rewarded? Should you get rewarded for beating up on a scrub? or should they get rewarded for beating up on a skilled, loud-mouth, QQing loser?

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

If you do hb for fun massacre, why do you just not tank down and then farm all the noobs you want all day for the rest of your life.

/notsigned for reasons people already posted.

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Ok pointless posting in a forum with a bunch of elitist fagz.

Yes let's tank down, and beat all the newbs I want, cus that would be fun ... idiot seriously. I want some competition, thats why I am trying to get the top players, to play again. What's so fun, about winning every game? What's so fun about people leaving in the first minute of the game, not fun. I have even started giving people a chance so I can actually have a challenging game.

But whatever, none HB players do not understand the situation, so piss off and go get a thrill watching the super leetsauce gvg gameezzzzz.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Shut up . LOL. Sorry but this will make the whole situation x10 worse and would ruin HB. End of.
Before blatantly lying, have a point. Seriously, what your suggesting is like giving double Champ points if the 5th ranked guild beat a 300 ranked guild.

Shayne Hawke's system actually makes sense, as opposed to yours.

Also, you're complete jackass way of opening up your thread made me hate you pretty much right off the bat. "I'm R2 HB, as most of you know" seriously. Who gives 3 shits about Hero Battles anyway? I just wh0r3d an assassin for a week to get my Commander title, and almost broke the top 100. HB takes almost no skill and is really nothing to brag about.

Massacre Way

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2007

A/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanyatta
Before blatantly lying, have a point. Seriously, what your suggesting is like giving double Champ points if the 5th ranked guild beat a 300 ranked guild.

Shayne Hawke's system actually makes sense, as opposed to yours.

Also, you're complete jackass way of opening up your thread made me hate you pretty much right off the bat. "I'm R2 HB, as most of you know" seriously. Who gives 3 shits about Hero Battles anyway? I just wh0r3d an assassin for a week to get my Commander title, and almost broke the top 100. HB takes almost no skill and is really nothing to brag about.
Ok , another stupid post made by another stupid person. To start, I mentioned I am rank 2 to show that I actually know what it feels like to wait 40 minutes each game. Who gives 3 shits about hero battles? Sorry... errm HB PLAYERS!? HB takes almost no skill? Wow, thats just hillarious... I'd love to see you even get 1 point against me and many top players.

I love your comment on "is really nothing to brag about" ... then you say "I just wh0r3d an assassin for a week to get my Commander title, and almost broke the top 100"... and anyway I was not bragging anyway, if I wanted to brag...I would...and I actually have something to brag about.

Now be quiet, because your slightly boring.

Go gvgzzz with da elitissts, da super skilleeddd.

Thank You!

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Ok , another stupid post made by another stupid person.

-snip- blah blah blah, the same crap i've been posting for hours.
If you can't take the heat to change your idea or realize how much it blows, then gtfo our Sardelac.

Here I thought that having a high rank in HB meant you were pretty good. I thought that I would look at the ladder and think that everyone in those top slots is pretty good at what they do. You've managed to give HB and its top players more of a crappy name than I'd ever figured was possible.

I made my suggestions based on logic: more points to those who beat higher ranks. I even proposed another suggestion in the other thread of making the system like Champion, which must be working better than this is since I don't see as many people whining about it.

You refuse to take criticism to your idea. You spend all of your rebuttal trashing our ideas, simply by saying that they suck. You fail at posting.

gg, no re, kthxbai.

Kanyatta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guildless, pm me

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Ok , another stupid post made by another stupid person. To start, I mentioned I am rank 2 to show that I actually know what it feels like to wait 40 minutes each game. Who gives 3 shits about hero battles? Sorry... errm HB PLAYERS!? HB takes almost no skill? Wow, thats just hillarious... I'd love to see you even get 1 point against me and many top players.!
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said hero battles takes no skill. OK, I overlooked the 30 real HB players, other than that, no one really cares about HB, except for the tournament house for free RPs. And I have taken a few top 10 players to the 20-18 range in some AT's.

And you're calling me elitist? Take a look at yourself for a second.

Darkobra

Darkobra

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Massacre Way
Go gvgzzz with da elitissts, da super skilleeddd.
You, of all people, shouldn't be calling others elitists. Try reading through your own posts. They're actually quite funny.