Character naming: single names &/or 's

sixofone

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Join Date: May 2007

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I don't understand the requirement to use 2 names in GW, nor the fact that we can't use an "'s" like "Grenth's whatever", in creating character names.

Not that things will change, now - but, for GW2, maybe they can allow single name names; use of the possessive 's; or even allow people to have the same character name as someone else? While there may be some potential for confusion if 2 people or more all want to use "Soultaker" (cf. Glen Cook's The Black Company series), the system, I am sure, can differentiate between Soultaker attached to [email protected] vs. Soultaker attached to [email protected]. But, that's less important than simply being able to create a single name name, like Soultaker, or Grenth's Scythe, or, heck, even have names that use an ' as a part of the spelling - as well as names where the first letter doesn't haver to be capitalized! It allows for more customization rather than less.

Just my 2-cents wish list...

greyhawk

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you can use grenths scythe with out the ', works just the same.

as for 2 people with the same name, pming and reporting ext wouldnt work.
people with sames names shouldnt be allowed.

as for 1 name that wouldnt be bad idea, but with the 2 name system people can have names that are close to each others, if some one wants Grenth, they can both have it with a different first or last name.

toastgodsupreme

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Join Date: May 2005

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Probably just something dumb how their DB is setup. Either that or it was a design choice made early on for whatever reason. I'm sure the devs, the REAL devs, wouldn't have cared, but there was probably a marketing guy involved who was like "well, let's make it like this...".

wyrd

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Join Date: Feb 2008

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I was dissapointed when I found I couldn't use a single word name It would be a big improvement to allow it. I also think its silly to use a phrase for a name perhaps that should be disallowed.

As for multiple people with the same name it is good that is not allowed some take pride in their unique name and why help copycats with no imagination.

Red Sand

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Other games that didn't have a two name or multiple name system, people begged for last names. This game makes you use them, and the OP wants to get rid of them. Go figure.

Marty Silverblade

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Join Date: Jun 2006

I don't think we should be able to put apostrophes in our character names because names aren't supposed to have them. Makes sense to me.

About the one-word name, it's more like a title than anything (e.g, soultaker), and I don't think you should just give yourself a title.

GaaaaaH

GaaaaaH

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Other games that didn't have a two name or multiple name system, people begged for last names. This game makes you use them, and the OP wants to get rid of them. Go figure.

Optional would be nice

StormDragonZ

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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Single names like "Quartz" or "Reno" doesn't belong in my opinion. Two words or more should be only the case.

pumpkin pie

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talk to a friend who play WoW recently, trying to make them play GW lol, anyway, when i told them my GW name, they were very excited and said: wow, you can have 2 names, we've (wow players) been asking for 2 names for a long time)

lol

make it an option in my opinion. other wise players will keep on complaining no matter what you give them.

zwei2stein

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by StormDragonZ
Single names like "Quartz" or "Reno" doesn't belong in my opinion. Two words or more should be only the case.
Is it really worth having "Q U A R T Z" or "X Quartz X" people?

It's not like two name system makes people choose smart names.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

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Join Date: Feb 2007

I hope really, Anet will learn form their fail of the GW1 Chara Creator and will improve the Naming of Characters as following:

- No Single Names at Character registration, but the player becomes able in the Menu, to click a button, that decides, if other players should be able to see your name, or not.

Example:

i register a Character with the Name XXXXX YYYYYY

at start the option I suggested is deactivated, so all people will see, if they mark my character the name XXXXX YYYYYY.

now I go into the menu, click the button mentioned, activate the feature and from now an, all people who mark my character will see only XXXXX.

- No Prenames, that are shorter, than 3 letters

- No Prenames that consist 2-3 times in a row the same letter and are not longer than 5 letters

- No tripple or longer names through double/multiple spaces > max 1 space for surname

- Insert multilangual accents, meaning making it able to give characters names with ' or the french e's ect. so that people who want to, CAN create real fantasylike looking medieval names, stuff ala

Huor Táralóm
Fëanor Amandil

ect pp. only with such apostrophes and accent letters you can really create names, that sound and especially look fantasy like.

- insert "-"'s ,otherwise no ASCII stuff, like *,/,+, ;, <,>, |,\, [, ], (, ) ect.


Just ensure in GW2, that characters will have all names, that really sound and look like names

just my 2 cents

Operative 14

Operative 14

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Arizona, USA

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I kind of like it the way it is. I suppose in some cases, I can sort of see where you might like an apostrophe. But then again, why would you use a possessive in a name?

I do /sign for the idea that we're not forced to have two names, though I doubt I would ever have a character with a single name anyway.

ilipol

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

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/singed for more freedom in names ... although I tend to 2+ word names and it really annoys me when some games confine me to 1

Sheol

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sand
Other games that didn't have a two name or multiple name system, people begged for last names. This game makes you use them, and the OP wants to get rid of them. Go figure.
i dont think he said once that he wants to get rid of them. he just wants the option. and i agree

Tatile

Tatile

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Operative 14
I kind of like it the way it is. I suppose in some cases, I can sort of see where you might like an apostrophe. But then again, why would you use a possessive in a name?

I do /sign for the idea that we're not forced to have two names, though I doubt I would ever have a character with a single name anyway.
O'Reily. A lot of people in Britain have come across this problem with databases where surnames are used: non-space (as ' ') don't work in the tables, this is of course due to bad table design where a ' or - causes the next typed word to start in the next field.

/signed for variety, but so long as only actual name punctuation (' and - ) are allowed as well (not . and , or even ) ).

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixofone
I don't understand the requirement to use 2 names in GW, nor the fact that we can't use an "'s" like "Grenth's whatever", in creating character names.

Not that things will change, now - but, for GW2, maybe they can allow single name names; use of the possessive 's; or even allow people to have the same character name as someone else? While there may be some potential for confusion if 2 people or more all want to use "Soultaker" (cf. Glen Cook's The Black Company series), the system, I am sure, can differentiate between Soultaker attached to [email protected] vs. Soultaker attached to [email protected]. But, that's less important than simply being able to create a single name name, like Soultaker, or Grenth's Scythe, or, heck, even have names that use an ' as a part of the spelling - as well as names where the first letter doesn't haver to be capitalized! It allows for more customization rather than less.

Just my 2-cents wish list...
Post this in the sticky, as you know full well this will never happen in GW1. 2 people with the same name.... lawl.

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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No. NEVER.

We do NOT need symbols such as: "·$%&/()=?¿|@#¬'¡\,.-;:_¨^*´`+[]{} in names.

Every single game I enter in which people can put weird names, they DO use werid names. Too werid, too much.

In most countries, you cannot register your children with weird names. This is THE SAME.
I fact, I would reduce the number of spaces allowed to 4. So no more than 5 words can be used. Names like "S T E P H A N" are an insult to all the rest of the players!!!

Names like "John The Rebelator" are ok.

But I do agree that names should allow tildes, accents and special letters used in some languages, like ñáéíóúýãõäëïöüçбвджяпØ... and so. As long as you set the Windows keyboard language to that certain language, of course.

sixofone

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Join Date: May 2007

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Let people make up names as they wish. (There was another post somewhere where the person commented on the lack of ability to use the special vowels we don't use in America.) People who want "real world names" that use an apostrophe (O'Toole; O'Reilly), or where part of the name isn't capitalized (du Mornay; al Sin; etc.), should have the ability to do so.

Single names aren't mandatory, btw! But, to have the option, it would be nice!

The quality of the names, on the other hand, is totally subjective and impossible to regulate. (Short of "offensive" names. And even there, ANet sometimes goes overboard to the point of being ridiculous. "Sexy" is offensive? But having Elementalists with huge breasts jiggle them when they dance is okay? Neither is offensive, but seems kind of a gap in reasoning to me... I know, I know - the Ele dance is belly dancing, which is quite cool, actually. But, to stay on point, the degree of "sensitivity" to "objectionable material" seems a bit out of balance if we can have sexy toons, but not use the term "sexy" in the name!)

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
But I do agree that names should allow tildes, accents and special letters used in some languages, like ñáéíóúýãõäëïöüçбвджяпØ... and so. As long as you set the Windows keyboard language to that certain language, of course.
How many people know how to use those characters on a standard US keyboard? How many on an Asian keyboard? If I wanted to invite one of them to my team, guild, or alliance, I'd need to type that name, and if I don't know how, I'll be unable to invite them. There are too many types of keyboards, and since those characters are not standard on more than a handfull, it would cause too many problems.

Lexar

Lexar

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I'm pretty happy there's no symbols, otherwise we would see a lot of those annoying leetspeak type names, so prevalent in first person shooters.

JR

JR

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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I'd be against special characters in names, as other players would find it rather difficult to type them for the purpose of sending a PM or report.

Maneo Ranae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

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As long as they'll put in æ, I'll be fine,... Lols ^^.

But srsly, accents and special letters should be included,... There's a difference between Rene and Rénæ,... Being, the last one's one I would use xD.

As for Single Names, for the Love of God, NO!
Sucks.
Srsly.
/points @ WoW

Alicendre

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
I'd be against special characters in names, as other players would find it rather difficult to type them for the purpose of sending a PM or report.
Just copy/paste them... Just like we already do with asian names.

/signed for special characters which are part of language.
Ie, 's, accents, -s, æ... But not # or @.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
I'd be against special characters in names, as other players would find it rather difficult to type them for the purpose of sending a PM or report.
That's more a problem with support and the like, rather than actual names themselves : (

That said, I think it'd be pretty cool to have to only choose a first name, just as long as capitals (capitols?) only exist in the first letter. Possessive's would be a plus, too, just as long as there's a limit.

But yeah I'd much rather see this in GW2.

Phoenix Tears

Phoenix Tears

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Join Date: Feb 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
How many people know how to use those characters on a standard US keyboard? How many on an Asian keyboard? If I wanted to invite one of them to my team, guild, or alliance, I'd need to type that name, and if I don't know how, I'll be unable to invite them. There are too many types of keyboards, and since those characters are not standard on more than a handfull, it would cause too many problems.

A bit OT, but I had to go onto that point:

Can#t you really imagine, that there are far easier ways to invite other players, then to write ever extra carefully their names ?

Don't you think, its much easier, when an Invitation requires of you just only to right click a player - then to see a little Window pop up with different choices like:

- Open private Chat to
- Whisper to
- Invite into Party
- "Invite into Guild" (when allowed to you)
- Trade with
- Coordinate Dance with (insert other social Emotes, like Kissing, Hugging ect., which sent to the other player a request box, if you like to get kissed/hugged whatever XD

and and and... the possibilities would be great, when GW2's interactive gameplay with other players would be so improved and that with a much better and easier to handle UI, which would get used, like the UI of a normal PC (for imagination, just move your mouse over "Start" and over "All programms" to get it, what I mean ^^)

Why make everything harder, than neccessary, if its so easy to handle lots of features about Emotes and Actions with other players in such a standart PC UI with Windows popping up, when needed and automatically disappearing agaim, once something out of it got selected and the wibndow automatically opens per right click, or quick double click on a character

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maneo Ranae
As for Single Names, for the Love of God, NO!
Sucks.
Srsly.
/points @ WoW
I don't play WoW, but as far as Single name names go:
Uhm - Koss?
Melonni?
Dunkoro?
Rurik?

Hell, everyone but Players in GW is a single name character!

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
I hope really, Anet will learn form their fail of the GW1 Chara Creator and will improve the Naming of Characters as following:

- No Single Names at Character registration, but the player becomes able in the Menu, to click a button, that decides, if other players should be able to see your name, or not.

Example:

i register a Character with the Name XXXXX YYYYYY

at start the option I suggested is deactivated, so all people will see, if they mark my character the name XXXXX YYYYYY.

now I go into the menu, click the button mentioned, activate the feature and from now an, all people who mark my character will see only XXXXX.

- No Prenames, that are shorter, than 3 letters

- No Prenames that consist 2-3 times in a row the same letter and are not longer than 5 letters

- No tripple or longer names through double/multiple spaces > max 1 space for surname

- Insert multilangual accents, meaning making it able to give characters names with ' or the french e's ect. so that people who want to, CAN create real fantasylike looking medieval names, stuff ala

Huor Táralóm
Fëanor Amandil

ect pp. only with such apostrophes and accent letters you can really create names, that sound and especially look fantasy like.

- insert "-"'s ,otherwise no ASCII stuff, like *,/,+, ;, <,>, |,\, [, ], (, ) ect.


Just ensure in GW2, that characters will have all names, that really sound and look like names

just my 2 cents
Phoenix, I agree with you on this. I also think that you should be allowed special symbols and that there should be a "click" function for report, etc, so names don't have to be typed.

Maneo Ranae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixofone
I don't play WoW, but as far as Single name names go:
Uhm - Koss?
Melonni?
Dunkoro?
Rurik?

Hell, everyone but Players in GW is a single name character!
Mate, this topic is ABOUT PLAYER NAMES.

So yeah, my point still stands, I guess,...

sixofone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maneo Ranae
Mate, this topic is ABOUT PLAYER NAMES.

So yeah, my point still stands, I guess,...

LOL

So, for some reason, only players have to have 2 names? Why?

Tatile

Tatile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixofone
So, for some reason, only players have to have 2 names? Why?
Greater avaliability of names. If we were only allowed one-word names the name ppol would dry up pretty fast (particularly for people who like acutual names for their characters).

Also, it may just be laziness on ANet's part, I mean, Koss does have a last name but it's not part of his profile (probably because of a falling out with his father). Would you actually give every single NPC a first and last name? A middle name? I beleive in the beta the hench had surnames, but they were removed for some reason, perhaps to save space.

sixofone

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Join Date: May 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatile
If we were only allowed one-word names the name ppol would dry up pretty fast (particularly for people who like acutual names for their characters).
Where does it say you'd be limited to only 1 name? The request is that we be allowed to use only 1 name if we so choose.

And there are NPC's with first and last names, both in GW and in other RPGs. Yeah, its a lot of work. Again, though, the request is to be allowed to create names as we would prefer - with accents and variations and so forth. It's all part of the customization of my character, no less than the appearance. If I come up with a cool single name for a character, why not? (And I prefer not to have to get around the limitation by doing the J O H N thing, or X John X.)

Tatile

Tatile

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Join Date: Sep 2007

Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sixofone
Where does it say you'd be limited to only 1 name? The request is that we be allowed to use only 1 name if we so choose.
Yup.

I'm distracted at the moment, trying to level up a Pokemon.

I was talking based on games where you're only allowed a single-word name, as the previous poster (not you) mentioned. I know this topic is about variation, that's why I signed it.

Sparks Dawnbringer

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

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/not signed

I think 2 names is to give more options for names. You can be Soultaker Badbutt and another person can be Soultaker Littlewind. So lots more people can be Soultaker. You want a specific name that is taken then add to it a bit and you can probably have it too, ie Soultaker Littlewind I. Remember there are lots of players and lots more characters the names have to go around.

Unreal Havoc

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Join Date: Dec 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixofone
LOL

So, for some reason, only players have to have 2 names? Why?
Because most common names get taken really quickly and if you only had single names it would get really hard and frustrating to pick new names for your characters n your account after a while.

I still get the "This name is alrady in use by anothwr player" message every now and then when thinking of new names for characters for PvE, and that's with two names.

As for allowing the use of special characters in names... no way!

/notsigned

Only thing I do think we should have is the character limit extended a bit more. I've thought of some great names before that were over the limit by 1 or 2 letters which is saddening.

Lydz

Lydz

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Felixious
Sure, probably makes no difference whatsoever to people with names such as "I Assassin X", or "Ur Foot Smells Lol", but some people actually enjoy having a somewhat fantasy name for their character.
and they should be allowed to have those names...but not everyone should be forced to have a two-word name imho.

MithranArkanere

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
How many people know how to use those characters on a standard US keyboard? How many on an Asian keyboard? If I wanted to invite one of them to my team, guild, or alliance, I'd need to type that name, and if I don't know how, I'll be unable to invite them. There are too many types of keyboards, and since those characters are not standard on more than a handfull, it would cause too many problems.
For that, a better interact system should be added.
Replace the 'Trade' button with an 'Interact' button, that would pop showing the options:
- Trade
- Whisper (Sends name to whisper panel)
- Ignore
- Add Friend
- Join (If you are alone selecting a member of a party)
- Invite (If you are the party leader)
- Kick (If you are the party leader)
- Invite to Guild (If you are an leader of official)
- Report

MagmaRed

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MithranArkanere
For that, a better interact system should be added.
Replace the 'Trade' button with an 'Interact' button, that would pop showing the options:
- Trade
- Whisper (Sends name to whisper panel)
- Ignore
- Add Friend
- Join (If you are alone selecting a member of a party)
- Invite (If you are the party leader)
- Kick (If you are the party leader)
- Invite to Guild (If you are an leader of official)
- Report
You are a Spanish speaking player with a tilde in your character name. I am in your friends list, as we have played together many times. Your character is in Lion's Arch. I am in my Guildhall, talking with my guild leader. I had suggested you join my guild, as you needed one, and mine did the things you liked to do. You whisper me, as ask if you can get an invite. I am not an officer, so I have to ask my guild leader (or an officer) to send you the invite.

My guild leader does not know how to use the tilde symbol to be able to type your name. Neither do I, and I don't even have you in my Friends List How do I get you an invite sent to my guild?

Too much of a problem. People should not have to be required to learn a new language function for thier computer just to interact with people. I'm just glad I have never had to communicate with an Asian character through whispers, or invite a guild with asian characters to my alliance.

Alicendre

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
You are a Spanish speaking player with a tilde in your character name. I am in your friends list, as we have played together many times. Your character is in Lion's Arch. I am in my Guildhall, talking with my guild leader. I had suggested you join my guild, as you needed one, and mine did the things you liked to do. You whisper me, as ask if you can get an invite. I am not an officer, so I have to ask my guild leader (or an officer) to send you the invite.

My guild leader does not know how to use the tilde symbol to be able to type your name. Neither do I, and I don't even have you in my Friends List How do I get you an invite sent to my guild?
Since you are whispering him, just ask him to whisper your guild leader, or meet in Lion's Arch.

Lame Goes Forums

Lame Goes Forums

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Join Date: Jan 2008

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You want one name?

Why?

And why on earth would you disallow phrases as names?

None of these points really make sense.

And only Koreans can use special characters. That's how it should be forever and always. I definitely love that.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

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Join Date: Nov 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagmaRed
You are a Spanish speaking player with a tilde in your character name. I am in your friends list, as we have played together many times. Your character is in Lion's Arch. I am in my Guildhall, talking with my guild leader. I had suggested you join my guild, as you needed one, and mine did the things you liked to do. You whisper me, as ask if you can get an invite. I am not an officer, so I have to ask my guild leader (or an officer) to send you the invite.

My guild leader does not know how to use the tilde symbol to be able to type your name. Neither do I, and I don't even have you in my Friends List How do I get you an invite sent to my guild?

Too much of a problem. People should not have to be required to learn a new language function for thier computer just to interact with people. I'm just glad I have never had to communicate with an Asian character through whispers, or invite a guild with asian characters to my alliance.
That problem exists ALREADY with Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese names.

But it's easily solved with two words: Copy Paste.
Names of characters would be able to be copied, by 'Shift-clicking' on them. Both chat names in the left and chat names post in the chat log.

Guildie selects <character>, click the button and chooses 'Whisper'.
Guildie copies <character name> from the Whisper name textbox.
Guildie pastes <chracter name> in the chat panel:

Guildie: Please add <character name>
Leader: Ok.

Leader shift click <character name>. Name is copied to the Whipser textbox.
Leader can then copy and paste it anywhere.

See? Things work when you think about it.