hm with assassin

[build prof=assassin/elementalist earth=12 shadow=12+3+1 deadly=3+3][Deadly Paradox][Glyph of Swiftness][Shadow Form][Sliver Armor][/build]
Choose the last 4 skills. I'd go energy management + damage. He said hm, not farming.


Take MS/DB spam imo or Shattering Sin for areas with annoying enchants (o hai sliver armour).
For heroes... just roll with 3 negroes/ sabway

Best daggers for this build would be to being both Zealous, 15^50, +30 and Vampiric, 15^50,+30. Use Zealous in between fights and when low on energy *which is usually after casting enchantments/stance* and vampiric when in fights and well on energy (or for when fighting e-denial, just use the vampiric since you will never be well on energy).
15^50 on daggers is bad. The 15% only affects the base damage (7-17), not the extra 40 or so from DB. Which means every attack is getting an extra 1 or 2 damage. +5e is a way better inscription for daggers.

Besides the builds people have mentioned here, I would also try Critical Barrage. It uses basically the same skills as Azazel's build with a few changes. Way of the Master (EotN skill) in place of Way of the Assassin, and Barrage for your elite. Favorable Winds and a zealous recurve/flatbow recommended. Also, if you can fit it in, take Disrupting Accuracy for any annoying casters. (Note that you will take Accuracy off if you use Barrage.) 16 Crit strikes and 12 Marksmanship. Rest should be +hp or +en insignias and runes.

15^50 on daggers is bad. The 15% only affects the base damage (7-17), not the extra 40 or so from DB. Which means every attack is getting an extra 1 or 2 damage. +5e is a way better inscription for daggers. If you have e-problems while using MS/DB you're doing it wrong. If you don't have e-problems you don't need +5e. +1 or 2 dmg is better than 5e that does nothing.

thnx

will that build also work with sabway heroes , with insignias and runes on their armor ? Yes definitely, it's what hero setup I run for alot of areas with a few tweaks here and there.

The thing is, with Zealous daggers, you don't need the +5e for energy, so the +1-3 damage is rather helpful still.

Actually, the purpose of an assassin is for high fast damage to the supporters of enemy groups, at least imo. Paragons are the ones to run the party wide buffs. I would suggest to always have a self heal, no need for resurrection Signet, that I agree with, but always always always have a self heal, never know when your monk will run into e-denial or your enchantments get stripped and you lose all of your own defense, making you more "squishy" then you should be.

But thats just difference of opinions. That also depends on whether you're running H&H or with players and whether a Paragon is available to run Imbagon for you. Good luck trying to put Save Yourselves on a hero.

I never use Save Yourselves! on myself (and obviously not on heroes) nor do I ever go out of my way to party with one, and I always do fine (excluding one rather annoying dungeon for me -cough Shards of Orr cough-). And if your H/H and your monk can't keep you alive, with or without your own self-heals, then they can't uninstall GW. Good luck trying to get Dunkoro to uninstall himself. What you do by choice is evidently, your choice. That doesn't nessaarily mean its the best choice. I mean (for example) I for certain wouldn't run Critical Eye and Way of the Assassin side by side. I don't really see the need to waste two slots on criticals with such a high critical hit rate. I'd rather take Moebius Strike and Critical Strike and get some good spammable energy management on demand and AoE damage.

What it comes down to, as I've always said in discussions like this, is an individuals playing style and preference. With that said anyone not taking advantage of +100 armour on their whole party from Save Yourselves with such a fast attack rate to maintain it, while still being able to maintain good damage on their target, should have a damn good excuse to not take it, because there isn't really any good reason not to.