perma sin build... which one??

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

11 Jun 2008 at 20:37 - 1

I just cap the SF skill and I have seen you guys talk about perma sin.
Now I know that is involve keeping up the SF skill permanently (hence the name), but what I am confused about is that there are so many build in PvXwiki that uses this skill.

So my question is this, when you guys are talking about perma sin build, what build were you refering to? If you could post it here, it would be much appreciated.

Sorry if this question is kinda lame to some of you.

Thanks!

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

11 Jun 2008 at 20:42 - 2

...As you said yourself there's a bunch of different builds. It's not THE perma SF sin, it's A perma SF sin. Could be talking about any build at any given time. The builds vary.

You should really look at what you say and think for at least a few seconds before you make a thread.

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

11 Jun 2008 at 20:49 - 3

grilled by ^^

So when people are talking about perma sin is pretty much refering to builds that has SF in it?

Gift3d

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2007

Las Vegas

Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]

W/E

11 Jun 2008 at 21:20 - 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by b3rt_d4ni3l
grilled by ^^

So when people are talking about perma sin is pretty much refering to builds that has SF in it? Yes. I'm not sure if a build name has ever been more self-explanatory.

greyhawk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

IGN : Greyhawks Destroyer

guildless

W/

11 Jun 2008 at 21:35 - 5

perma SF is using 3 skills and 20% enchantment mod on weapon. to keep up SF all the time, after it is up you can use any skills you please.

zling

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

11 Jun 2008 at 21:50 - 6

the Perma SF chain is either with A/E or A/Me
A/E version: SF+DP+GoS
A/Me version: SF+DP+AE
both achieve the same results(perma SF) the only difference is the damage capabilities, personally I think A/E gives more damage versatility however you must have EotN for GoS

XDeadboltX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2008

R/

11 Jun 2008 at 21:57 - 7

Check the 'Basic guide to playing Assassins' sticky , its on there....

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

11 Jun 2008 at 22:05 - 8

Quote:
You should really look at what you say and think for at least a few seconds before you make a thread. There is ignorance and then there is stupidity. Try being helpful or don't speak. Or just use your own advice please.
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As for the SF build you want, it would all depend on the area you plan on farming as to the builds you might use. If you look at the builds/forum posts, they usually say where that particular build is useful. Hope that helps.

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

11 Jun 2008 at 22:07 - 9

A/E is a lot easier to learn in my opinion.

Best way to farm on a sin atm is in the UW with the following build:

[build=OwZToY/85R6zj0Z4CkhvYYMBBA]

Use a Sup vigor rune, sup shadow arts, rest can be attunement/Radiant.
Have thew following weapon sets:
1)fiery spear of enchanting (+5 energy) with a fire focus (20/20)
2)A high health weapon set
3)A vampiric weapon set to keep you HP below 100 to keep the mindblades aggro'ed on you.
4)A long or flat bow for pulling

You can watch 2 videos of the run using a similar build at http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10293844.

On average, you will get roughly 3-6 ectos a run. I recommend doing it in NM if you're just going for ectos or HM if you also want golds and or warrior and mesmer tomes. in about 3-5 runs, you'll have enough to sell for 100k in Spamadan.

b3rt_d4ni3l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

R/Rt

12 Jun 2008 at 13:53 - 10

awesome, guys!
Thank you very much for all the help

@Nightow, Thanks for the build and the link. Helped me a lot.

peace

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

13 Jun 2008 at 14:26 - 11

I hope SF gets the nerf bat soon.

Admittedly the A/E parties in ToA have brought the lol but hard earned Sin titles just got uber-ganked.

Funny how all the Sin haters have been quite as of late.

Meh...GW.

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

13 Jun 2008 at 18:56 - 12

Beyond SF, DP, GoS and a 20% enchanting mod, what build you use depends on what you're farming.

For doign the Chaos Plains, I agree that this build is the best:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightow
A/E is a lot easier to learn in my opinion.

Best way to farm on a sin atm is in the UW with the following build:

[build=OwZToY/85R6zj0Z4CkhvYYMBBA]

Use a Sup vigor rune, sup shadow arts, rest can be attunement/Radiant.
Have thew following weapon sets:
1)fiery spear of enchanting (+5 energy) with a fire focus (20/20)
2)A high health weapon set
3)A vampiric weapon set to keep you HP below 100 to keep the mindblades aggro'ed on you.
4)A long or flat bow for pulling

You can watch 2 videos of the run using a similar build at http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10293844.

On average, you will get roughly 3-6 ectos a run. I recommend doing it in NM if you're just going for ectos or HM if you also want golds and or warrior and mesmer tomes. in about 3-5 runs, you'll have enough to sell for 100k in Spamadan.

Quote: Originally Posted by fireflyry
I hope SF gets the nerf bat soon. Not going to happen. This result was so obvious that a-net had to anticipate it when they chose to buff SF. Enabling this sort of farming was deliberate. Now, we might question why they chose to do this, but I think it's pretty clear that they aren't going to go "oops, accidentally made farming too easy, better change it back."

moongod

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

P4n드4k트 F0rm4710n [Its heat not cheat]

13 Jun 2008 at 22:25 - 13

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon

Now, we might question why they chose to do this," Increase sales of Factions!

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

13 Jun 2008 at 23:34 - 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by moongod
Increase sales of Factions! A winrar is you. That's also why I think they haven't nerfed ursan yet- buy moar GWEN plox.
Now let's wait for Proph pve only skills so people who don't have Proph will buy it.

fireflyry

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

New Zealand

A/D

16 Jun 2008 at 10:48 - 15

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chthon

Not going to happen. This result was so obvious that a-net had to anticipate it when they chose to buff SF. Enabling this sort of farming was deliberate. Now, we might question why they chose to do this, but I think it's pretty clear that they aren't going to go "oops, accidentally made farming too easy, better change it back." Totally agree man and realistically I don't expect to see any change happening either.

Tbh I'm not personally fussed as I've never really been into the grind of farming and have never been overly cash/title/loot motivated but a few of my guildies are pretty peeved at the obvious end result of many PvE titles and high end loot having there requirements and/or cost effectively cut by 50% or more.

Even though I'm not into the title system I can sympathize and understand why many of those who grinded for so long to max certain titles, Drunkard, Wisdom, Sweet Tooth, etc, or get certain gear are a bit miffed they have suddenly been made so much easier to financially attain via one skill update.

I'm just glad I'm not one of them.

As to "why" seeing as GW2 is around the corner this is a great way to flog a dead horse imo and again it brings the lol to see all those Sins running around atm.

Sin party!!11!!

Super Igor

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2008

why should you kno? Oo

A/W

16 Jun 2008 at 12:18 - 16

Sins > U, I always knew that even at their worst days (just after release of factions).