Okay, hear me out here. Some of us who have played for a long time occasionally start new characters or just totally re-roll old ones. It's always a hassle to buy new skills and armor, but how about we could salvage some of it from a character we're going to delete by converting their skills into skill tomes?
If you have skills you aren't using and would rather get another skill and don't want to buy a tome, you can convert a skill to a tome and lose that skill from that character and use it to buy a new one. No one would lose anything, since you basically trade one skill into another, and if you don't want a new skill, heck, sell the tome - you'll make a bit of a profit, but lose a skill.
With the Star of Transference it's already possible to convert a skill point from character to character on your account (with an added fee of crafting), so this would work similarly but with skills unlocked on your account. Mainly I thought of regular skills, but it might work with elites too.
Converting a skill into a skill tome
Traveller
Kyomi Tachibana
With Elites... It'd be like this:
*convert Elite skill* *sell Elite Tome for 10k* *go cap again for 1k* *repeat*
And for general skills. Eh.
/Unsure
*convert Elite skill* *sell Elite Tome for 10k* *go cap again for 1k* *repeat*
And for general skills. Eh.
/Unsure
Traveller
Yeah, possibly. But I mainly thought of regular skills here, like I said.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
And for general skills. Eh.
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Likely, there would be no "sell" because anyone could reroll new chars to get any amount of tomes then need.
Kanyatta
There would have to be a limit, like you can only do this 25 (I dunno, just a random number) times per character, because I'm sure people would find a way to abuse this.
Elite skills definitely would not work.
For regulars
/ehhh, probably sign
There has to be some way to abuse this that I'm not thinking of
Elite skills definitely would not work.
For regulars
/ehhh, probably sign
There has to be some way to abuse this that I'm not thinking of
I Will Heal You Ally
Um dunno... you made money with your old char so why not just use that money to buy tomes which are very cheap
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Tatile
What if the tomes were customised to the account? Could that work?
Then again the problem is it may destroy the tome market...
Then again the problem is it may destroy the tome market...
ilipol
I fail to see the point to this ... regular tomes cost 300-500g that means if you want to buy an additional 20 skills for a new char it will cost you 6k - 10k.
Now if you think that a <lvl20 char needs to use more than those 20 skills I have nothing to say...
Besides don't forget that buying skills acts as a gold sink.
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Now if you think that a <lvl20 char needs to use more than those 20 skills I have nothing to say...
Besides don't forget that buying skills acts as a gold sink.
/notsigned
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by ilipol
Besides don't forget that buying skills acts as a gold sink.
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Sindy
One of the incentives to do Hard Mode is the tome drops. If any character could just make them, it reduces one more item in the (at least to me) already general feeling that HM drops aren't as good as advertised initially.
ilipol
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta
A gold sink is usually referred to a merchant or an NPC, something that will get gold into the economy. Getting gold to other players, who will most likely use it to get a Crystalline from another player, really does no good to the economy.
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If this is implemented it means that there will be more tomes, which means players will buy LESS skills from trainers, which means money will stay IN the game which means the money sink effectiveness of buying skills decreases.
Hence what I said...
SpotJorge
Time youve spend thinking + writing + tracking this thread you would get easy elite skills tittle 
just make a petition for when you create a new character he comes with all stuff and tittles from game and 1000k on storage
just make a petition for when you create a new character he comes with all stuff and tittles from game and 1000k on storage
Targren
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Originally Posted by Gwiki
In addition to whatever skills a trainer normally teaches, each skill trainer teaches all non-elite skills you have unlocked on your account for that Campaign
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Phoenix Tears
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Originally Posted by Kyomi Tachibana
With Elites... It'd be like this:
*convert Elite skill* *sell Elite Tome for 10k* *go cap again for 1k* *repeat* And for general skills. Eh. /Unsure |
Would this find its way into the game, E-Tomes prices would instantly fall down to 1 P or say 2P ... cause of massive over supply of them then ...market would ASAP explode of E-Tomes then.
I fidn that idea good, would take away some of the braindead grind the game has and for PvE I find, its really silly to buy ever tomes again for Skils, that are already unlocked for your account ..
Devs are ever talking about mergign PvE more with PvP >.> How about it, look at this also in kinda the other way...
Imo everythign we buy in PvE we should have to buy only once and everythign we buy should not be a waste of money, if we decide to reroll our characters, for example due of failing at the Survivor Title.
Other easy solution: make tomes untradeable XD and et voila, nothing with get low, sell high rince and repeat blah blah
Drake Eleric
Dedicate to your account?
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Phoenix Tears
I find, its really silly to buy ever tomes again for Skils, that are already unlocked for your account ..
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Unless you don't like money.
EinherjarMx
/notsigned this is just plain stupid
Orange Milk
As I recall, aren't skill dirt ass cheap on a new Character? Plus there are skill quests to get free ones.
It's like your first 20 skills from the trainer are less than 1k ea
I can remember when NF came out, I rolled a PvE derv and Paragon and went and bought a handfull of skills with each just to get things unlocked really cheap for PvP because I was lacking the balt faction at the time.
And tbh, It's not hard to buy tomes.
It's like your first 20 skills from the trainer are less than 1k ea
I can remember when NF came out, I rolled a PvE derv and Paragon and went and bought a handfull of skills with each just to get things unlocked really cheap for PvP because I was lacking the balt faction at the time.
And tbh, It's not hard to buy tomes.
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
And tbh, It's not hard to buy tomes.
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DarkFlame
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
As I recall, aren't skill dirt ass cheap on a new Character? Plus there are skill quests to get free ones.
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Ignoring the skill trainer before new skills cost a plat each, is just plain silly.
@Kanyatta Don't use Spamadan then. Use the sell forums.
MithranArkanere
GW =/= Re-roll.
Darkhell153
/notsigned (and hi everyone)
Yawgmoth
Sorry but it's a poor and hopeless suggestion, there's nothing to make out of it, no rework can help it, it's inherently bad.
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Shayne Hawke
Aren't tomes around 500 still?
/notsigned. Unnecessary.
/notsigned. Unnecessary.
DarkGanni
I see the OP's Idea and won't happen however IF they do it, personally I would make some restrictions.
1. The "extracted tome" cannot be sold, only traded between characters on the same account.
2. Elite Skills extraction "consumables" drop from bosses in HM.
Just my 2cents
1. The "extracted tome" cannot be sold, only traded between characters on the same account.
2. Elite Skills extraction "consumables" drop from bosses in HM.
Just my 2cents
Kanyatta
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Originally Posted by DarkFlame
@Kanyatta Don't use Spamadan then. Use the sell forums.
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Turtle222
: D
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Orange Milk
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Originally Posted by Kanyatta I have serious trouble buying tomes sometimes. Sometime something as simple as a norm necro tome can take 35 minutes of WTB messages in Kamadan, and don't even get me started on norm Monk Tomes. If I ever get a response for those, its always for 1.1-1.5k, and I just always think "Why would I pay you 1.5k if I can go over to the trainer and get it for 1k?" Never in my life have I purchased a Monk Tome |
Some guy offered to sel me a Rit tome for 1.2k and I laughed, told him 800g max. He told me "NO, 1.2k is what they go for, that is what you HAVE to pay" I got a fantastic laugh from that. I told him I can skills from the trainer for 1k and he stopped PMing me. Needless to say I bought nothing from him.
I just post this:
WTB All regular tomes D3 at fountain.
And people PM me in droves