Mesmer Hero Sig smiter?

the OP pointed out the he was after holy damage to tackle shards of orr. signet smiters are bad. ether renewal is imba. Check out the title of the thread. It says Mesmer Hero Sig smiter.

Ether Renewal is based on casting spells with enchantments, not signets, and there are too many spell-based interrupts, slow cast hexes, and energy denial from the mesmer monsters in Shards. Alot of Blinding Surge and Blinding Flash, weakness, too against physical attackers.

exactly
it's all diversity i do
change heroes depending on my area
but for the undead i never had a special surprise apparently you didnt.

and to repeat my point. signet smiters are bad. if you have a problem with spells for some reason try a holy barrager or something.

darkspirit, i read the title. i also read this:

apparently you didnt.

and to repeat my point. signet smiters are bad. if you have a problem with spells for some reason try a holy barrager or something. The simplistic argument of "Don't use X, because X is bad IMO" is just not good enough. If you think signet smiters are bad, you should explain why. Don't just blindly follow what someone else said, understand the game mechanics.

And the OP was saying "exactly" as a reply when someone mentioned Shards of Orr. If you only check out the undead in Shards, before posting, you would see a lot of spell interrupts and e-denial skills there, this is why some people use signet builds. And someone else has already mentioned holy barrager, you dont have to repeat it. Holy barrager can work but you have to watch out for the very common blind and weakness there.

I have already mentioned these in my post just on top of yours, but apparently you didnt read that either.

how are skills with longer recharges and lower damage not bad?

being different is fine, but trying to defend different opinions just because they are not normal is simply stupid. They recharge fast enough under MoI and their damage doubled against undead. Why is that bad for Shards?

Because nuking the bastards with other crap is more fun.

I'd rather grab a Holy Barrager and get a Splinter Weapon bitch to spam Splinter on the Barrager though. That has got to be the lamest counter argument I ever read from you, Tyla.

Better bring a good condition remover for blinding surge/flash.

Long / Flatbow. I bring one too. Great for pulling mobs.

better for staying out of casting range. If only the ranger hero is smart enough to do that on her own without alot of micro-management. That is also no guarantee that the ranger hero would not be hit or blinded doing something stupid.

its not guarnteed, but even if they only get off one barrage they will still be doing way more damage than a signet smiter. Wrong. Smiting prayers skills give double damage to undead, which is about 100 holy damage per cast. One barrage is not even close. Why dont you use all barrage ranger heroes, and I use all signet smiters and we see who clear it faster?

well dark spirit i tried out both groups with 2 of your mesmer smiters on one team and the splinter barragers on another with a monk hero included and the following henchies menhlo zho eve and lo sha and the splinter barragers got me farther then the mesmer smiters in the shard of orr i'm willing to give it another try if you think i should try other henchies and heros with them but as they stand now they didnt come close to the splinter barragers and to tell the truth i thought they would do better then they did. pm me if you want me to give another combo a try I got the opposite results that you have when I tried it myself. I even tried giving the barragers Great Dwarf Weapon and Judges Insight from my own character, but they couldn't kill the clerics in their backlines fast enough and kept getting blinded from Eruption, Blinding Surge, and Blinding Flash, running around avoiding AoE. The mesmers were blinded too but that didn't stop them and they withstood more attacks with 89AL and holding shields. Perhaps our heroes are just configured differently.

For Shards, I would bring Mhenlo and Lina, and make the monk hero into a smiter since you dont have a third mesmer. For example,

[Monk Signet Smiter;OwUTMU3C15BYSwroErvLh6LTAA]

Disable the res until you need it, of course.

Here is my shameless plug:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...10&postcount=3 tried this build for a bit on my gwen
i took out sig of disenchantment for destroyers and put in [scourge healing] and they dropped like flies
worked well in HM