I like to post farming threads in the wrong forum because I can't read

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

Will a +2 shadow rune with a +1helm work? or do i need the +3 rune because it seems no1 is selling it

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

[Shadow [email protected]] + 20% Enchant = 36 second Duration.

[Glyph of Swiftness] + [Deadly Paradox] + [Shadow [email protected]] = 30 second recharge.

In short. Yes

(They haven't updated the icons yet, I think.)

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

ok thanks man, and the icons dont have PvE,PvP application yet

Kiluna

Kiluna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Finland

Mo/

13 Shadow Arts + 20% enchants is enough to perma SF (27s+20% = 32s), it will be harder, but still possiple. So all you need is +1 from mask and 12 SA

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g.

Infectious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

New Zealand FTW

Ex Talionis [Law]

It perma shadow form is possble with helm +1. Although it doesn't leave much room for error.

oliverrr1989

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2008

Lore of Mythos [Myth]

D/

is it possible with 15 SA and a 19% enchant?

Shayne Hawke

Shayne Hawke

Departed from Tyria

Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

R/

For what perma-SF can get you in farming, I'd think buying the Superior rune would be worth the investment, right?

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliverrr1989
is it possible with 15 SA and a 19% enchant? You should go take a math class if you can't figure that out yourself.

Yes, it still works.

Taisayacho

Taisayacho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

England (GMT)

The Imperial Guards of Istan [TIGI]

R/

Yes, the +3 is definitely worth the investment. Made about 40k (9 ectos) in about an hour yesterday ^^

Panais

Panais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2008

Binge And Purge [HET]

D/W

lol just did my first run and only got 2 ectos, is that normal? because i can get that on w/rt in half the time

Kyomi Tachibana

Kyomi Tachibana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

Oregon, USA

Where iz teh Bonuz [WitB]

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panais
lol just did my first run and only got 2 ectos, is that normal? because i can get that on w/rt in half the time It all depends on luck. I got 10 ectos my first run, but 3 on the next.

How long are you taking?

My runs are down to about 25 minutes~ if the spawns don't suck.

Kiluna

Kiluna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Finland

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g. I was just pointing it out that you can do it with 12+1 and 20% enchant mod, before someone else asks "can i do it with this" :P

Abedeus

Abedeus

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Niflheim

R/

Well duh, but it's better buy a mask +1 AND a minor rune, so its 14 shadow mastery. Although Superior Shadow Rune would be the best - there were so many times I almost didn't make it with energy thanks to low duration of SF...

Kiluna

Kiluna

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2007

Finland

Mo/

You obviously missed my point... i was not saying what is best and what not, i was just saying that you CAN do it without any rune, so people don't have to ask "is 14 enough?" or something... And i don't have energy problems, i almost always refresh SF at recharge anyway (exception being if i really want to cast something before it).

Flav

Flav

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Abedeus
Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g. Because +1 to Shadow Arts from a Grail of Might is good enough for an E/A which has more more energy and does more damage than an A/E.