Obtaining a 40/40 set?

Fi Kumiko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Missouri

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Alright I know that you can get a 20 % HCT and HSR on an off hand item.

Though it might be obvious as daylight, I can only find a 20% HSR but no HCT for the mainhand. What upgrade,inscription etc. Do I need to get 20/20 on the wand/rod?

Pesi

Pesi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Droknars Forge

No Goats No Glory

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focus core of aptitude (upgrade)
Forget me not (inscription, 20% sell for about 20k)

Fi Kumiko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Missouri

Mo/

Thank you, least I now know what to get.

tmakinen

tmakinen

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

www.mybearfriend.net

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Hmm ... it looks to me that the answer was inaccurate. The OP asked about the 20/20 set for a wand, and was given the ingredients for a focus.

A 20/20 wand requires:
Wand Wrapping of Memory (1-2k)
"Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (6-7k)

A 20/20 focus requires:
Focus Core of Aptitude (1-2k)
"Forget Me Not" inscription (20-25k)

zelgadissan

zelgadissan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2008

The Warrior Priests [WP]

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Tmakinen is correct. Specifically the "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription is what does your 20% HCT.

Fi Kumiko

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2008

Missouri

Mo/

Ok that clears it up a bit more. Still haven't gotten all the inscriptions figured out lol. Thanks for the help everyone.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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You can get collecter weapons that have 20/20 near the end of factions, If you wanna save some money.

Nightow

Nightow

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kindred Order of Souls [KOS]

20/20 weapons are also available as end game greens in EotN.

Trenixz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

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There are also collectors in the southern shiverpeaks and the crystal desert with 20/20 weapons/offhands

Chthon

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by tmakinen
Hmm ... it looks to me that the answer was inaccurate. The OP asked about the 20/20 set for a wand, and was given the ingredients for a focus.

A 20/20 wand requires:
Wand Wrapping of Memory (1-2k)
"Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (6-7k)

A 20/20 focus requires:
Focus Core of Aptitude (1-2k)
"Forget Me Not" inscription (20-25k)
This is correct, however, I should point out that 20/20 foci are available from collectors in both Prophecies and Factions essentially for free, and 20/20 wands can be crafted in Faction at Leviathan Pits/Vasburg Armory for 5k plus materials. Unless you really care about looks, the collector focus + crafter wand is a better deal than building it yourself. If you don't have access to Factions, many people on the forums, myself included, would be happy to craft a wand for you at no cost if you provide the 5k and the materials.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

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The Wands and Foci from Endgame EotN are also 20/20, so you can build a 40/40 set from there. It might cost you more than crafting them in Factions, though, depending on how much a Droks Key is these days.

NYC Elite

NYC Elite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
The Wands and Foci from Endgame EotN are also 20/20, so you can build a 40/40 set from there. It might cost you more than crafting them in Factions, though, depending on how much a Droks Key is these days.
Eh, they're ~5-10k each (the former and a medium more so than the latter). Beats crafting a set and busting out ~25-30k total for just mods, not counting the weapons.

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

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POB

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It's probably good to mention that they don't seem to stack additively...i.e., you don't get 40/40. What happens is 2 separate 20% chances.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

Mo/

yup..it is actually 36%/36% set ( 20% probability from weapon + 16% probability from "not getting from weapon but getting it from focus item i.e. 0.8x0.2" )

Shaz

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

As other have said, if you do not care about the skin too much, it is easier and cheaper to use green and weapon crafter to obtain 40/40 set through out all the campaigns.

Quote:
Originally Posted by azizul1975
yup..it is actually 36%/36% set ( 20% probability from weapon + 16% probability from "not getting from weapon but getting it from focus item i.e. 0.8x0.2" )
Yea, but it's easier to say 40/40, and more people know what that mean than 36/36. And it actually 38/36, 38% net HCT and 36% net HSR, if you want to get exact number.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaz
As other have said, if you do not care about the skin too much, it is easier and cheaper to use green and weapon crafter to obtain 40/40 set through out all the campaigns.



Yea, but it's easier to say 40/40, and more people know what that mean than 36/36. And it actually 38/36, 38% net HCT and 36% net HSR, if you want to get exact number.
lol why would one be 38% and one be 36%?
(they are both at 34% with something like 4% chance of double, if i remember correctly)

Shaz

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by N E D M
lol why would one be 38% and one be 36%?
(they are both at 34% with something like 4% chance of double, if i remember correctly)
Because you can get QCT with both triggering, while HSR is capped at 50% so you can't get QSR, it's one or the other, focus or wand will trigger only.

azizul1975

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2007

GMT+8

The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO)

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emmm.. i found this . hopefully will clear things up.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40

however, what if you have a staff with 2 HCT modifier e.g. the nightbringer ? will it give u 40% chance or 36% ? it is on the same equipment....

ALF71BE

ALF71BE

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2008

In your fridge, stealing your pickles. for mah subway

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Quote:
Originally Posted by azizul1975
emmm.. i found this . hopefully will clear things up.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/40/40

however, what if you have a staff with 2 HCT modifier e.g. the nightbringer ? will it give u 40% chance or 36% ? it is on the same equipment....
Same thing, 32% to HCT and 4% chance to QCT. It's not 34%, not 38%. Doe the HSR, it's 36%.

Should be noted that if you want a 40% HCT on a staff, it's an "Aptitude not Attitude" inscription (it's for spellcasting weapons) and an Adept Staff Head. Now I'm guessing that 10% HCT staffs (those that drop commonly all over Factions and Prophecies) + 20% from the Adept Staff Head, would give you a 26% of HCT + QCT? Or what?