Is that the title that guild wars has earned for its self? there is a mas diffrence between this game and every other game as there is a diffrence between every other game. But has this game fallen prey to the "farming" life of players where they spend countless hours away from the story line just to get the best wapons and armour?
I think so.
There was a time when you would follow a story line to se whats around the corner, whats on the next page or even whats behind dorr number 3. but it seems that as the character reaches lv 20, and the story line either is finished or gets boring players steer away from there "story line" to farm.
farming is all fun and dandy, dont get me wrog, i love farming dungeons and the EotN areas with my level 19 dervish/monk. but whats makes the idea of farming so special? is it the gold? is it the u8ber titles, weapons and the abillity to not be called a so called "newb" any more?
where guild wars is the best is with its builds and focusing on the characters fighting/healing style. bhut has that been enhanced or has that been lost on this "farming"?
so i ask you:
What is your oppinion on the idea that guild wars has become like every other rpg in the sense that: get to max level, farm for best stuff, instead of play the story line?
another "just like every other rpg" game
a-kyle
Shayne Hawke
PvE is really just a fool's game. There's not really an endpoint to what you can do, so you'll inevitably end up doing something over and over.
PvP sounds like it's broken all over the place, but at least with so many players to face, you can expect some interesting fights here and there.
GW will pretty much be a farming game in both areas until GW2
PvP sounds like it's broken all over the place, but at least with so many players to face, you can expect some interesting fights here and there.
GW will pretty much be a farming game in both areas until GW2
Cebe
To be perfectly honest, I don't care if someone wants to perma-farm for the "best armour". It doesn't ruin my experience of the game.
Why are people overly concerned with what others do when you could be playing the game yourself, however you want to play it? Surely that's all that matters?
Why are people overly concerned with what others do when you could be playing the game yourself, however you want to play it? Surely that's all that matters?
a-kyle
GW2 will be built for high end computers (or so rumor has it) so people with computers that either barley or are at the GW level of compliance wont get to play (like me 
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a-kyle
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To be perfectly honest, I don't care if someone wants to perma-farm for the "best armour". It doesn't ruin my experience of the game.
Why are people overly concerned with what others do when you could be playing the game yourself, however you want to play it? Surely that's all that matters? |
Fril Estelin
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a-kyle
what crack on you on, from other forums i have chatted in it will be highend comps that can run dx 10. on wiki it said it will have higher compatibillyty requirements.
any ways back on topic
any ways back on topic
Targren
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what crack on you on, from other forums i have chatted in it will be highend comps that can run dx 10. on wiki it said it will have higher compatibillyty requirements.
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The question is whether or not Microsoft will extract their heads from their colons by then and get DX10 support backported onto XP. I'm not installing Vista to play GW2
a-kyle
neither am i, to be honest i run a little higher then min specifications for GW and i hope they dont change to much
moriz
the "budget" dx10 card is already available: geforce 9600GT/GSO
GW2 will have higher system reqs, but will still be pretty low. the (now nigh-on useless) geforce 8600GT should be able to run it very well.
GW2 will have higher system reqs, but will still be pretty low. the (now nigh-on useless) geforce 8600GT should be able to run it very well.
WinterSnowblind
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GW2 will be built for high end computers (or so rumor has it) so people with computers that either barley or are at the GW level of compliance wont get to play (like me
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Operative 14
I played through the storyline, and I enjoyed it immensely. But, inevitably, there is nothing else to do in the game except help your fellow guild members or farm once you've completed the storyline(s) to your satisfaction.
So is this a topic about minimum computer requirements for GW2, or whether GW1 has turned out like every other RPG? Because if it's the former, they've said several times that the specifications will be reasonably higher than the requirements for its then four or five year old predecessor, but still available to average users with average systems.
So is this a topic about minimum computer requirements for GW2, or whether GW1 has turned out like every other RPG? Because if it's the former, they've said several times that the specifications will be reasonably higher than the requirements for its then four or five year old predecessor, but still available to average users with average systems.
Targren
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the "budget" dx10 card is already available: geforce 9600GT/GSO
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Now that I think about it, most of the games I play ARE old to very old. D2, NWN/2, Oblivion, and GW.
I might upgrade for GW2. I don't know tho...
JeniM
GW's is dull now. I've stopped playing apart from 20mins per day where I get my 6,000BF from ZE for the day
I still stalk the forums here in the hope the next "xx/xx/xxxx Update" thread will bring me back to PvE but chances of that are about as high as England winning Euro2008.......0 basically
I still stalk the forums here in the hope the next "xx/xx/xxxx Update" thread will bring me back to PvE but chances of that are about as high as England winning Euro2008.......0 basically
poasiods
Some people choose to utilize the full contents of the game and go through every quest while others only give crap on PvP or farming aspect of the game. Not much wrong with that. Any sort of RPG usually has its share of farmers. It really is rather difficult to completely obstruct any sort of farming activities, although they certainly can be frowned upon. It's more of the issue with general populace's attitude rather than the game itself, in my opinion.
I personally believe most of the titles were meant for players to naturally acheive while playing through (Well, maybe except for LDoA).
Anet's idle players: "Wow, I just beat Nightfall. Maybe I'll do it again in Hardmode for the challenge. Hey, look, apparently I'm a Legendary Spearmarshall."
GW's actual players: "LFG ss/lb farming."
I personally believe most of the titles were meant for players to naturally acheive while playing through (Well, maybe except for LDoA).
Anet's idle players: "Wow, I just beat Nightfall. Maybe I'll do it again in Hardmode for the challenge. Hey, look, apparently I'm a Legendary Spearmarshall."
GW's actual players: "LFG ss/lb farming."
Bryant Again
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Why are people overly concerned with what others do when you could be playing the game yourself, however you want to play it? Surely that's all that matters?
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Alex the Great
I don't really care, there is alway something to do, and some title that dosen't need grind!
all of these people who complain about farming and grind be all thats left had better have legendary vanquisher and legendary guardian
all of these people who complain about farming and grind be all thats left had better have legendary vanquisher and legendary guardian
Taisayacho
I don't even bother with titles, (hate them lol), so to me I think that it's not a grinding game. I do PvP (GvG, TA sometimes, and RA to mix it up and laugh at noobs). I also farm the hell out of UW for money ^^
Kusandaa
I don't really enjoy PvP. Killing other people isn't my stuff, especially if I have to deal with their egos at first place - I'M NOT COMPETITIVE, 'cause I don't care for it. I'd rather play on my own or with friends... so PvE and farming are good options for me.
I always hated the GW storyline and yes, to me it was "just another RPG" game. Actually it wasn't really, since I didn't even enjoy the it compared to other games I've played. I didn't get into the lore, didn't care for it...
On the other hand, I loved the gameplay. I like killing stuff mindlessly and I'm dead tired of people who want me to play the way they do. Do I care if some people prefer PVP over PVE? Nope, they do what they want... neither do I care if people farm the same place as I do, a different place, a different way or the same way.
I always hated the GW storyline and yes, to me it was "just another RPG" game. Actually it wasn't really, since I didn't even enjoy the it compared to other games I've played. I didn't get into the lore, didn't care for it...
On the other hand, I loved the gameplay. I like killing stuff mindlessly and I'm dead tired of people who want me to play the way they do. Do I care if some people prefer PVP over PVE? Nope, they do what they want... neither do I care if people farm the same place as I do, a different place, a different way or the same way.
darkdreamr
in any MMO the "storyline" or "content" runs out after about a month of playing. All that's left is farming and pvp. Luckily GW pvp is fun.
Nessar
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so i ask you:
What is your oppinion on the idea that guild wars has become like every other rpg in the sense that: get to max level, farm for best stuff, instead of play the story line? |
IMO, If people want to farm their lives away, go ahead, it won't affect me in any way.
~My .02
weretoad
i farm it true, i farm to avoid money problems. i don't use perma shadow form, but i use most others. i hate ursan and perma shadow form btw, they take no skill. the game has extensive content other then that. you have 4 normal mode, 4 hard modes, 8 char slot, 0ver 400 skills (500?). i don't think pve is the same old thing. there are lots of possible build and ideas, it's great! you can play this game as much as you can. beat all games 16 times beyond that is the world of farming, and pvp.
Mac Sidewinder
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i farm it true, i farm to avoid money problems. i don't use perma shadow form, but i use most others. i hate ursan and perma shadow form btw, they take no skill. the game has extensive content other then that. you have 4 normal mode, 4 hard modes, 8 char slot, 0ver 400 skills (500?). i don't think pve is the same old thing. there are lots of possible build and ideas, it's great! you can play this game as much as you can. beat all games 16 times beyond that is the world of farming, and pvp.
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aapo
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To be perfectly honest, I don't care if someone wants to perma-farm for the "best armour". It doesn't ruin my experience of the game.
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PvP on the other hand is random. I mean, I want to have some say on the outcome of battle, I don't want everything to be decided whether or not I get a decent Monk player in my team! HA: r9++++ LF SWAY. Everytime someone figures an effective combination it gets nerfed. Oh wow! I know some games where players try to compete with each other for respected top positions. Games where rules are so simple and robust no cheating is possible. Instead with have the "balancing team" playing the puppet game with us. They say: "we would like to see a bit more WoH" and nerf LoD, buff WoH. And WoH returns to every Monk's bar. Yup, gets old pretty fast. The point is not to balance anything in a sense that taking Life Sheath instead of Reversal of Fortune would sometimes be fruitful - Reversal is always better.
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Kusandaa
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i farm it true, i farm to avoid money problems. i don't use perma shadow form, but i use most others. i hate ursan and perma shadow form btw, they take no skill. the game has extensive content other then that. you have 4 normal mode, 4 hard modes, 8 char slot, 0ver 400 skills (500?). i don't think pve is the same old thing. there are lots of possible build and ideas, it's great! you can play this game as much as you can. beat all games 16 times beyond that is the world of farming, and pvp.
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When you've fully explored (Grand Master Cartographer), done all missions+bonus/masters, beaten the game with 6+ chars, done all high-end PvE areas, milked them for cash, got the armors you wanted... you have a couple options.
- PvP. I explained, I have no competition spirit for that.
- Quitting. I don't wanna quit, still some stuff I'm after.
- Using the game as chat. I know people who do it, myself included.
- Farming. For... well whatever you want. In my case, armor and titles.
Ass Mac Sidewinder explained, it's never the same when you've beaten it a couple times.
a-kyle
this game is loosing its edge, i fear for its future
HuntMaster Avatar
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so i ask you:
What is your oppinion on the idea that guild wars has become like every other rpg in the sense that: get to max level, farm for best stuff, instead of play the story line? |
Guildwars sucks, but its something to do when I'm bored and I want to waste time in a legal fashion.
I also find it funny that in this months issue of GI, ncsoft was voted the least trusted game company of all 3rd party companies.. NCsoft, anet and gw = fail and everyone knows it.
kratimas
Who cares what other people do, you play how you like to and others will play the way they like too.
Simple as that!
Simple as that!
Rhaegor Stormborn
I am a new player, or was...I bought the game, played and beat each campaign and most of the side quests in about 2 months and I have not logged in since. I feel I got my moneys worth, but yes, Guild Wars might is nothing more than a single player RPG that you can co-op some missions with if you want, but it is not necessary or beneficial to do so in anyway.
SerenitySilverstar
Attention Span + Social Programming = Your Personal Boredom Threshold
A game is not meant to be infinite. GW may have given you that impression with it's depth of content, and it's response to players demands for more content - you've really been spoiled. The game - any game - is not here to hold your hand.
The sooner you realize it's you, not the game, the sooner we get less "The game is dying" threads.
A game is not meant to be infinite. GW may have given you that impression with it's depth of content, and it's response to players demands for more content - you've really been spoiled. The game - any game - is not here to hold your hand.
The sooner you realize it's you, not the game, the sooner we get less "The game is dying" threads.
a-kyle
i never said it was dying just that its another, max out your player and farm game
Mac Sidewinder
I haven't ever seen a RPG or MMORPG that wasn't just "max out your player and farm game". This is the end result - it's how you get there that makes the games different. Some are like WOW in it seems that they never end (so many levels) and then there is GW where it was skill > time invested (untill recently).
Darksun
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i never said it was dying just that its another, max out your player and farm game
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That's what you DO in these games. different games just have different syles/gameplay. if you don't like build up character/getting stuff play Soul Calibur 4, cuz RPGs are not for you.
a-kyle
i think you need to loose the attitude and accept that it is only an oppinion.
Sora267
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i never said it was dying just that its another, max out your player and farm game
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aTT!kus
lol these forums are just constantly filled with QQ, if you dislike the game so much don't bother posting on here and quietly quit and give me all your stuff
a-kyle
who said i hated the game
Thizzle
I like getting to 20 and then doing whatever instead of following a story line I've heard 100 times already. I watched it once and that's when it was interesting. I rather not roll a new character and have to actually do every single thing again.
a-kyle
oh no i mean just one character folloiwing the story is ok, but some people dont even do that