Factions or EOTN?

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

W/

Greetings all.

I have Prophecies and Nightfall, and having done much in both with many profession combinations, I'm starting to become curious about the Assassin and Ritualist professions.

However, I've heard that Factions focuses more on PvP than anything else, and to date (aside from the required fight in prophecies) I haven't done any PvP, and have no interest in it.

I like the storyline for EotN, and would like to get the new armor/skills.


Which is better for a story-focused player?



Also, on a side note:
Did all the major retailers decide that Factions wasn't worth selling anymore?
I haven't been able to find a nonbundled copy anywhere.

Kyuzo_Kujii

Kyuzo_Kujii

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ascalon Arena Champions [AA]

Mo/

Honestly, I would take GWEN over Factions. But im glad that I have both.

EDIT: Reasoning behind GWEN on my part is i like the dungeons, yes ursan and others provide overpowered pve skills, but minus that i like the dungeons....

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

Check the bargain bin for factions. And I would go for Factions but thats just me.

Murmel

Murmel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2008

Land of Confusion

[swea]

W/

Both... But I'd get Factions first since you get Alliance Battles and Ritualist
I see that your avatar is a Dervish so guess your main is one? sadly there are no Derv/Para armors in Factions

The Meth

The Meth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2007

R/

Factions doesn't ever _force_ you to PvP, there is a single quest that requires faction with the respective side which can be gained either through PvP or PvE, but other then that you are fine.

You might find the factions PvP fun though, AB and Fort Aspenwood are pretty much designed as a combination of PvE and PvP. Both have have a large amount of NPC's to kill and are by far the most casual of the PvP types.

Content-wise, EotN is pretty bare unless you want to exploit the overpowered PvE only skills. Which just about everyone does.

WingsOfDarkness

WingsOfDarkness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2008

USA

Rt/Mo

Both are great.Though I would reccomend not skipping Factions for sure.I love the Assassin, and the Ritualist is by far my favorite class of all the games.Both are a lot funner for me than any of the core classes, save the Elementalist.I would go for Factions first, then after getting through it, I would get Eye of the North.Factions has two classes that are a lot of fun to play.And those classes are also a lot of fun going through EotN

Tyla

Emo Goth Italics

Join Date: Sep 2006

Factions has Splinter Weapon and Ancestor's Rage, which are the 2 strongest AoE skills in the game.

Even moreso with you being a Dervish - splash damage off Splinter is awesome.

You also get shadowsteps (Broken mechanic), Save Yourselves, Aura of Holy Might and AB.

On the other hand, with GW:EN you get a nice energy management attack skill, a load of PvE skills and easier elite skill captures.

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

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AB/ Aspenwood are wonderful introductory PvP, EotN is short boring and full of reskinned armor. It is really boring, dungeons are uninspired and un rewarding. Yes the overpowerded PvE skills are nice but that is probally the only reason for buying it. Factions is fun short in a better way has a wonderful atmoshere and is probally the most fun of any of the campains. Plus Assassin/Rit are nice. Factions for sure.

Esan

Esan

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2007

Wars

Factions at least harkens somewhat back to the time when Guild Wars was new and innovative. GW:EN just feels tired.

Get GW:EN when you eventually catch the title fever, though. Skills like Pain Inverter and "Finish Him!" can nearly halve the pain of HM.

NoXiFy

NoXiFy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2007

★☆٭Ńēŵ~ŶờЯК٭☆★

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/Me

>>>Questions And Answers>>>

EOTN, ursan = gg.

Nessar

Nessar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2008

West Siiiiiiiiiiiiiide

Gwen Has A Thing For [Pyre]

Eotn is very short and boring IMO.
Factions is short and fun...somewhat.
I'd get factions first because of the two new classes and the ab..but that's just me

hurric

hurric

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

BC

Definitely Factions.
You'll be bored of EOTN before you beat it. Factions has re-playability, 2 new professions, tons new skills and new elites none of which GWEN offers.
Also don't buy the games from GW online store.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

Factions for me , probably the best chapter IMO and you can get it for peanuts these days.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

GWEN has PvE skills.
Factions has everything else.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

That's a bit shallow, Upier.

OT: Both have a good story and setting, provide a lot of content, and are both great if you want more GW. But Factions has the new professions, and I think it'd be cool to give those a shot. So Factions would get my vote of your purchase.

Both are pretty cheap right now, too. I'm seeing both for 10 bucks at the Gamestop near here.

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Factions, imo.

It has the two classes (both of which are useful), better storyline (imo), some important key skills, and more interesting armor (again, imo). Though I may be a bit biased...despite there seeming to be a bunch of Factions haters, it happens to be my favorite campaign.


EOTN has.........................Ursan.....

The forth fly

The forth fly

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2008

england

Mo/

id go with factions its more fun than gwen and you get ABs opened

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

Factions alright, it's an actual chapter for a reason ...

Snow Bunny

Snow Bunny

Alcoholic From Yale

Join Date: Jul 2007

Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]

If you want to think of it this way, consider the armor selection -

Reskins versus skins that (at the time) were considered pretty damn sexy.
Even today, my monk uses her kurzick 15k for prot setups.

The only eotn armor i've purchased is for my paragon.

I feel that the armor comparison is relatively indicative of the games' comparison as a whole.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Factions if you play to have fun and enjoy the storyline.

EOTN if you play to farm.

Buster

Buster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Elona

Clan Eternal Legion

D/W

EOTN. You get heroes and can earn rewards for Guild Wars 2 if you wish to do so. Though if you like Guild Wars that much then be greedy and get both!

I Will Avenge You

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/N

I would recommend you to take Factions, first, if you must buy one or the other

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
That's a bit shallow, Upier.
You sound surprised!

But seriously - pretty much the only thing I got out of GWEN was the Norn ritualist outfit (which is TO DIE FOR - which you can't get because you don't have Factions ) and stuff like [Finish Him], [You Move Like A Dwarf] and [Ebon vanguard Assassin Support].
Where as Factions gave me superb armour choices, the ritualist class, Aspy, AB, my favourite mission in the whole game (Vizunah! - although to be fair - also one of my least favourite missions - Arborstone! Yuck, how I hate thee!) and some insanely sweet skills! (Come to papa [Arcane Languor] - yeah, I KNOW, but I still LOVE it!)

The only problem is that the PvE skills are so freakishly godly that it might just be worth getting GWEN.


Basically - Gwen gives you the ammo, whereas Factions provides a playing field to use the ammo on.

romeus petrus

romeus petrus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Urgoz Warren

Legion of Doom [LOD] Home of PWNZILLA http://PWNZILLA.guildlaunch.com

EotN = Dungeons = Epic Phailure, dont waste your money.

Factions has Urgoz = good.

BlackSephir

BlackSephir

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/N

I'd take Factions over GWEN any day. Its content is simply superior to GWEN's. More gameplay, less grind.

XXL-FLEA

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2008

Cape Cod, MA

E/Mo

EOTN has heroes like nightfall which can help you get your quests done. I personally thought Factions was easy to beat and besides when GW2 comes out you can bring the things from your hall of monuments over which you cant get in factions the hall of monuments is only in EOTN.

If Possible get Both

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

You'll want both if you keep playing, but get Factions first imho. I really enjoyed Factions.

joshuarodger

joshuarodger

Unbanned

Join Date: Jan 2008

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] -- IGN: Swirly

Mo/

factions has a very good storyline, but the scenery,imo, is awful. and mapping can be a pain in the ass.

GWEN has really good scenery and fun side features, i.e. dungeons, PvE skills.

honestly i think you could probably get both of them for 25-40 bucks, so get both.

a-kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2008

A/R

I farm in the EOTN

Absolute Destiny

Absolute Destiny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Oklahoma City

Forgotten Realms [FR]

W/

UPDATE:

Got the LAST COPY of Factions from Gamestop for $30...started on an assassin, and got my Derv to Kaineng.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Factions is an amazing campaign, people say they don't like it, but it's not horrible. I like it a lot more than GW:EN....and A LOT more than Nightfall

GW:EN has it's good times too....

Edit: Oh great you got Factions

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
UPDATE:

Got the LAST COPY of Factions from Gamestop for $30...started on an assassin, and got my Derv to Kaineng.
Hooray!
/cheer

Yol

Yol

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Absolute Destiny
UPDATE:

Got the LAST COPY of Factions from Gamestop for $30...started on an assassin
Welcome to ecto farming! Dervish FoW armour looks pretty good.

If you don't like the look of kaineng city, don't worry...the jade sea and kurzick forest look gorgeous.

Turtle222

Turtle222

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2007

:D:D

D/W

You have two choices really.

If you want to pug more, get GWEN

If you want to enjoy the game more, get Factions

GWEN offers you nice pve things and minigames and such if you strictly want pve godliness.

But i find that having essential skills such as SY and AoHM is better than Ursan.

Factions seems pretty deserted in comparison to other campaigns, so don't expect to find that many groups after nahpui quarter.

There is ofcourse the fact that Factions offers you two new classes which are very fun i must say. Ritualist came out to be a very enjoyable class for me. And if you want to farm ectos and stuff, then the recently buffed SF-sin is the right way to go.

Holly Herro

Holly Herro

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Kangaroo-land.

Blades of the Dingo [AUST]

Factions.

Perma shadow form, solo UW :P

People make like 100k a day with it! ;o

Pleikki

Pleikki

WTB q8 15^50 Weapons!

Join Date: Nov 2006

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

Factions. As Campains go Proph > Factions > Eotn > nf

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by upier
Basically - Gwen gives you the ammo, whereas Factions provides a playing field to use the ammo on.
So the new dungeons, areas, and campaign in GW:EN don't exist.

The places in GW:EN may be a bit iffy, but they're still great fun nonetheless.

Cahalith

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2007

New Brunswick, NJ

Tauri of Kobol

A/

Factions is the shortest campaign, but it has new skills for the core classes, 2 new professions, and some semblance of storyline. Sure, there's the grind for faction, but that only happens once. In EotN you have to grind faction for 4 different races, it drives me nuts. I never should have bought it.

cgruber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2007

Tryst of Vengenance [ToV]

Mo/Me

IMO Factions as PVE Blows something horrid.
On the other hand you get new skills (some of which are quite good), 2 new classes, and char slot, FA/JQ/AB. All of which make it worth getting.

EOTN has some new skills, ton of pve only skills, heroes, armor, gloves, and a lot of grind titles...

Eh they both suck but if you want to PVP get both for the skill unlocks.

upier

upier

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Done.

[JUNK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Again
So the new dungeons, areas, and campaign in GW:EN don't exist.

The places in GW:EN may be a bit iffy, but they're still great fun nonetheless.
I actually never play there.
I think that it lacks the shiny new feeling that chapters brought.
It's more of a "Let's go to the places we've already been before" and I am like "Why?".
The only dungeon that I actually had fun in was Shards. (Well outside of Killy-farming.) It just wasn't fun enough to ever do it again though.

And I KNOW I should play it because that's the only way to get my PvE skills to become stronger - but I just can't be bothered.