The Shield and Torch
DarkSpirit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko
true, but there is an extent to where something becomes "changing completely" instead of "making better"
Alot of people do that in this forum actually. Change this, change that,...ok now that it looks like either sabway or racway, it should work fine. 
Anyway, if you can, test his suggestions and I dont think it would work well enough without SY, but we should give it a fair trial.
Anyway, if you can, test his suggestions and I dont think it would work well enough without SY, but we should give it a fair trial.
Psyko
well, i posted my final revision.
Changed the Monk to a N/Rt healer. I can not believe the effect it has on the entire build. Got through GoM Hard Mode, i wiped when i overaggroed two titan abominations and the final patrol group from the last portal i had to clear. Pure Accident. Otherwise i would have cleared the entire thing no problem.
Well, thats the final thing im going to do.
Use it, love it, hate it, all im gonna say is it works.
edit: oh ya, and the results from that dual SF ele test were pretty good. they vastly increased damage, and added a bit to the defense, but their performance compared to the N/Rt was not enough to warrant using it. Im going to continue using this set, and post again when i get a sizeable amount of accomplishments for final proof that this works, but im gonna say, compared to what i have seen before, that this will hold up.
Changed the Monk to a N/Rt healer. I can not believe the effect it has on the entire build. Got through GoM Hard Mode, i wiped when i overaggroed two titan abominations and the final patrol group from the last portal i had to clear. Pure Accident. Otherwise i would have cleared the entire thing no problem.
Well, thats the final thing im going to do.
Use it, love it, hate it, all im gonna say is it works.
edit: oh ya, and the results from that dual SF ele test were pretty good. they vastly increased damage, and added a bit to the defense, but their performance compared to the N/Rt was not enough to warrant using it. Im going to continue using this set, and post again when i get a sizeable amount of accomplishments for final proof that this works, but im gonna say, compared to what i have seen before, that this will hold up.
DarkSpirit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Psyko
edit: oh ya, and the results from that dual SF ele test were pretty good. they vastly increased damage, and added a bit to the defense, but their performance compared to the N/Rt was not enough to warrant using it. Im going to continue using this set, and post again when i get a sizeable amount of accomplishments for final proof that this works, but im gonna say, compared to what i have seen before, that this will hold up.
Good you improved your healer. But you are coming alittle short on blocking.
If I use almost the same healer as you, I would use a DA Paragon. And I still prefer SH over SF.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=13
If I use almost the same healer as you, I would use a DA Paragon. And I still prefer SH over SF.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=13
DarkSpirit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyla
I don't know what's in Racthoh's build, but I would take:
A Stunning Strike / Cruel Spear Paragon with Cry of Frustration.
A Defensive Anthem Paragon using Enfeebling Blood at 5 spec. Stunning strike was a dismal failure, but the Cruel Spear idea works better than expected, without SY. This is what I used:
[Cruel Spear Paragon;OQWkIMlrJiuj7GfHkZwW4cwFWeD]
[DA Paragon;OQSlcUlrJdio64utwBZ7wE2Dzhl3]
[Orders Necro;OAhkQoGbYIqEGzkghwcwWwWYVl3E]
...but that would be a totally different build from the one on this thread.
A Stunning Strike / Cruel Spear Paragon with Cry of Frustration.
A Defensive Anthem Paragon using Enfeebling Blood at 5 spec. Stunning strike was a dismal failure, but the Cruel Spear idea works better than expected, without SY. This is what I used:
[Cruel Spear Paragon;OQWkIMlrJiuj7GfHkZwW4cwFWeD]
[DA Paragon;OQSlcUlrJdio64utwBZ7wE2Dzhl3]
[Orders Necro;OAhkQoGbYIqEGzkghwcwWwWYVl3E]
...but that would be a totally different build from the one on this thread.
Psyko
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSpirit
Good you improved your healer. But you are coming alittle short on blocking.
If I use almost the same healer as you, I would use a DA Paragon. And I still prefer SH over SF.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=13 oh yes, i forgot about that build you had XP. But yes, the addition of defensive anthem does look like it would help, the only problem is its an elite, and it ends when someone hits with an attack skill. Granted, only two out of my eight party members usually have attack skills, but i am trying to make this for multiple group setups, so i need to take into consideration the fact that some like to run mele heavy gorups (dont know who, but if there is an option, there is a person that will do it)
Also, i forgot to post the changes i made to my paragon. All i did was switch around some skills, dropped GftE and Vicious Attack, it didnt seem like Hayda was using the combination right. I opted for wild throw, and since i now have three adrenal skills i put FGJ back in(that and i couldnt find anything better >.>). I have also been running with stand your ground, as well as WY, because im thick skulled :P and i do believe it helps.
If I use almost the same healer as you, I would use a DA Paragon. And I still prefer SH over SF.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=13 oh yes, i forgot about that build you had XP. But yes, the addition of defensive anthem does look like it would help, the only problem is its an elite, and it ends when someone hits with an attack skill. Granted, only two out of my eight party members usually have attack skills, but i am trying to make this for multiple group setups, so i need to take into consideration the fact that some like to run mele heavy gorups (dont know who, but if there is an option, there is a person that will do it)
Also, i forgot to post the changes i made to my paragon. All i did was switch around some skills, dropped GftE and Vicious Attack, it didnt seem like Hayda was using the combination right. I opted for wild throw, and since i now have three adrenal skills i put FGJ back in(that and i couldnt find anything better >.>). I have also been running with stand your ground, as well as WY, because im thick skulled :P and i do believe it helps.